The only real BS I see about OP is that the villains fight like they're going to kill the main characters but never finish them off after the KO. Then the main characters rebound and still manage to beat the villains even though they should really have no chance to. There are some pacing issues and some of the arcs tend to drag out in certain parts longer than you'd like, but no one said it was going to be perfect.
For me, it's fun to watch. It's something I can sit down to watch without putting much thought into what is going and be entertained by the action and adventure the characters deal with, so it's great for long days that wear down your mind and you just need to zone out.
Crocodile Impaled Luffy on a hook and left him to rot in the middle of a desert. He then drained him of all moisture in their second round. Those seem like "finishing them off" to me.
Luffy was just injured, not dead. Luffy was alive both times Crocodile left which is more like a knockout than anything. Crocodile never made sure the job was finished, he only assumed it was. If I were Crocodile I would have made sure Luffy was dead for good, not just in a bad condition. Luffy very well could have died in either incident, but there was an unknown that factored in that prevented his death. Leaving someone injured when you intend to kill them does not = they die or they are finished. It can result in death or being "finsihed", but it does not guarantee it. So Crocodile was never guaranteed a "finish" in either instance.
Technically, Luffy was pretty much dead the first time. You'd have to be extremely paranoid (if you put yourself in Crocodile's shoes), to some how expect him to survive being completely buried after being impaled in a desert. There was basically a 0.09% chance of him surviving that, and he only survived it because someone (Robin) was there to witness where he was buried. Hence the obvious surprise on Croc's face when he was still alive. If Crocodile impaled him then left him in a town where there were lots of people to help him, then I would see that as a problem.
Also, second time definitely counts as "dead for good". He was completely dehydrated and only through the greatest of luck was able to come back.
Crocodile didn't apply the typical "throw the hero into a vat of sharks and hope they kill him." He personally stood there the second time, holding him by the neck to assure that he was completely drained. It wasn't his fault that "incredible luck" helped Luffy to survive. Same could be said when he poisoned him. No one had survived that poison prior to that.
I think people tend to forget the incredible luck involved in Luffy's fights sometimes. Crocodile was far beyond him at the time, and he needed that combination of determination, luck and betrayal to win, not due to a lack of Crocodile trying.
Let me put it this way. If you go to murder someone and want to finish the job, you definitely don't just leave them alive. You finish killing them. No breathing, no heartbeat, no chance of any survival at all. You DON'T give them that 0.09% chance of survival as you so call it. It's still a chance no matter how grim it may seem.
If Crocodile HAD finished Luffy off, Robin couldn't have done anything to save Luffy regardless if she witnessed it or not. See the point? Probably not.
Seriously, go stab someone, throw them somewhere, and see what happens. It very well could be a 50/50 chance. You didn't finish them as they were still alive. Something can happen between hanging on and death that prevents death. If you finish someone you make absolute sure they are dead. Paranoia doesn't even count in this matter. There's nothing to be paranoid about if the person is dead unless you're completely bonkers and return to mutilate a dead body thinking they're still alive when they're not.
Again, the second incident is the same result as the first. If Crocodile HAD finished Luffy off, the water that rehydrated him would not have made a difference since he would have been dead. See the point? Again, probably not.
What is intended is not always what is. That is the point you keep failing to see here.
I'm rather sure
that Lucci's final Roukugun was a finisher. I think Luffy only survived it because his organs were rubbber... Well, aside from plot armor, of course. lol By then Lucci had used up all his strength to defend effectively against a counter attack.
Refer to everything above.
I think it's obvious it's plot armor, that's why
Luffy is always give a chance to survive. He can never be "finsihed" because the story doesn't allow it, which is why none of the villains finish Luffy. It may be intended and it may look like what it is, but it is not. It's just a very badly injured Luffy.
Again, I believe you are not looking at this right and are using the pretext of another situation, not the situation at hand.
The first time Crocodile left Luffy to die in a desert. What do you think are the chances of someone randomly coming along to the Exact spot where he was buried, in the middle of an expansive desert? Also, he was stabbed and was bleeding. Because it's an anime and Luffy can't really dies for plot reasons, Luffy survived, but anyone else would have died from blood loss much, much MUCH earlier, and also required DAYS to recover.
Second point is that the only way for Luffy to survive was for Crocodile to be betrayed. Crocodile did not expect the only other person who knew where Luffy was buried, his own subordinate to go right back and rescue him.
Ignoring how he survived, Luffy was basically as good as dead, not like other typical villains who live the hero in a situation where MANY people are likely to help them or they are able to work their way through. Also keep in mind that killing Luffy was not the priority at the time. Crocodile had a schedule to keep and only offered 3 minutes for Luffy. Taking him back to Rainbase to chop him up would have been a waste of time.
Now, the second time, Luffy actually died. Every last drop was drained from him. He qualified as clinically dead, not someone on the brink of death. Unless you are suggesting for some reason that Crocodile did not completely drain him, when he clearly did. Did you miss that?
Again, if you intend to finish someone, you make sure it's absolute. You don't walk up 1 foot from the end of a track course finish line and say you finished the race, you cross it to finish the race. If you walk away without ever crossing that finish line, you never finished, it was never absolute. You may have come close or it was good enough for you, but the fact still remains that you still didn't finish.
Crocodile intends to finish Luffy, he tries to finish Luffy, it looks like he has finished Luffy, but he never crosses that line and makes it absolute, therefore he never finishes him. In both incidents Crocodile leaves Luffy to die, he never finishes him to make sure he is dead at that very moment. He let his impatience with Luffy rush him to get back to his agenda when it would have taken just seconds to make sure Luffy would never foil his plans by actually finishing him. It's not about what Crocodile does, it's about what he doesn't do.
My argument stands so I won't keep rehashing the same logic since you fail to see any of the points and I doubt you will.
Making "absolute" would increase the villains work by a lot because there are people that just won't die by conventional means. If Crocodile wasted time to watch Luffy bleed to death, he'd have to forgo his schedule.
Even after some people's hearts stop, there is still a chance however slight that they will survive. People can survive extensive parts of their brains being blown out but survive.
He DOES finish off Luffy the second time. He watches him die in his very hands. It seems to me that you do not realize that Crocodile completely drained him the second time. He didn't half drain him or only decide to go to 90%. He drained every last drop till Luffy was DEAD. Luffy only survived because the plot dictated he survived.
To put it clearly and finally one last time: Luffy was completely DEAD the second time as Crocodile held him. Completely and Utterly dead.
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please, tell us what else you think is "garbage"...
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that is why i stop watching one piece sometimes and then watch it again.. becoz some of the parts in one piece r too boring and slower, not really comedy. i get bored of it. i still keep watching one piece becoz i really like the story and i want to know wat happen next
also im too tired to get the stupid jokes (do grab the boobs or brook keep saying 'oh im boned hohohoh') its too annoying and its never make me laugh :/
i dont know why most people really love one piece than other anime. im not saying it's bad. im saying that there r so many anime much better than one piece. for example, Dragon Ball Z or Fairy Tail or Bleach or Attack on Titan