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Posted 8/1/13


Ho boy here we go. Bashing on the unrealistic nature of an anime. I forgot, we all watch anime for its realism.
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badisglaid wrote:
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No your nonsenical point is NOT clear because it is nonsense. Period

As long as you keep ignoring what the hell I say I'm going to keep saying it. Eren turning into a titan is a DUES EX MACHINIMA and the crappy reason behind it is even more of a dues ex machinima


Last time I checked I don't remember either one of the authors specifically write "Here are the rules for the world I created and I will follow them". With your bullcrap logic you're using against One Piece means you shouldn't like NINTY/90% of anime. "Normal" humans do things they shouldn't be able to do ALL THE TIME. That's right ALL THE TIME


badisglaid, please
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have you even read what i wrote? i'm not talking about the unrealistic atmosphere itself but rather the bending of the rules so carelessly that it become really annoying (2 examples that i posted in my last comment)
because even if a story is imaginary giving it a realistic touch can really pull your interest such as the strategic fighting in naruto and how most of the techniques used are all explained and elaborated on but for one piece you got techniques that never really got explained they are there just there to be cool which really gives cartoonist feel it's like i'm watching a cartoon when usopp falls from the top of ennies lobby and nothing happens to him he just gets those X marks on his eyes and they laugh it off LIKE REALLY ??? these minor technicalities turn one piece into a kid's show and that's my biggest gripe about one piece.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but they foreshadowed the injection in Attack on Titan. Deus Ex Machina implies that there was no foreshadowing, you don't expect it, and it solves a completely unsolvable problem like nothing. We don't know what the injection does, but it was brought up, then brought back and explained later. Just because you don't see something coming, or you missed an important detail doesn't make something Deus Ex Machina. You want Deus ex Machina, watch every duel Yugi wins with some random card that he's had all along that is the perfect card for the current situation. THAT is Deus Ex Machina. The injection is still cheap, but the reveal is satisfying. What were you expecting, them to kill the main character off and him stay dead? Attack on Titan is still shounen, like DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho.



Anyways, back to One Piece. The story arcs are either hit or miss for me. I wouldn't blame you if you dropped it, due to it's blah pacing. The first few arcs weren't anything special. The first good one was Sanji's, followed by Arlong and Loguetown. I think the Alabasta arc was the best one so far (that I've seen anyways) with the Water 7 and Enies Lobby being second best. Everything Skypia I dislike very much. I can only stomach so much long running shounen at a time, it's been a while, and it'll be a while before I tackle the next arc.
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you keep saying it wrong it's Deus ex Machina btw not "machinima"

and if what you're saying is true name another shounen that involves normal human beings breaking the setting of the fictional world they're in. in naruto they are all ninja's they can do whatever the hell they want, in bleach soul reapers do their things and chat and orihime have that extraordinary ability because of the will of the hogyoko which aizen explain later on.. so in one piece you got devil fruit users and you got normal people why the hell does the normal people have UNEXPLAINED EXTRAORDINARY abilities this is what just drives me nuts in one piece and you seem to not get this point at all.

oh and the author doesn't need to announce the rules or anything like you said, the rules are comprehensible to everyone watching the show it's denoted by the setting of that particular series.
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Posted 8/1/13

badisglaid wrote:

listen i'm talking about 2 things completely different, what i ranted about in one piece was bullshit such as zoro slashing fodder with his swords and they all get knocked out without any gashes or blood and this happened more times then i could remember, and bull like sanji (a normal human) during a fight when he's beaten down decides to spin like crazy making his RIGHT leg only caught on fire then he uses that leg to defeat his enemy after he's done his leg conveniently goes back to normal without his trousers getting burned or anything and without him even feeling the heat. this is the kinda of bullshit im talking about BENDING THE RULES YOU'VE SET FOR YOUR STORY. because it's unheard of that NORMAL humans in one piece can do extraordinary things.

as for attack on titan there hasn't been any breaching of the rules the author set in the first place if you wanna compare both then just like a devil fruit can transform you into an animal in ONE PIECE, an injection can turn you into a titan in SHINGEKI NO KYOJIN.

im pretty sure my point is clear so there you go.


All of that you just describe as bullshit is basically what shounen anime is ,also I don't remember the creator ever set rules for one piece in the first place, I mean it is a fantasy world you don't need to explain the logic behind everything that happens,its not that kind of story.
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badisglaid wrote:

you keep saying it wrong it's Deus ex Machina btw not "machinima"

and if what you're saying is true name another shounen that involves normal human beings breaking the setting of the fictional world they're in. in naruto they are all ninja's they can do whatever the hell they want, in bleach soul reapers do their things and chat and orihime have that extraordinary ability because of the will of the hogyoko which aizen explain later on.. so in one piece you got devil fruit users and you got normal people why the hell does the normal people have UNEXPLAINED EXTRAORDINARY abilities this is what just drives me nuts in one piece and you seem to not get this point at all.

oh and the author doesn't need to announce the rules or anything like you said, the rules are comprehensible to everyone watching the show it's denoted by the setting of that particular series.


lol, if you're arguing that One Piece isn't realistic enough or follow any particular set of rules...then please just stop watching. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Yes, please just stop watching. Its shameful and kind of embarrassing that anyone would get on some high horse about anime "rules"....lol. omg, too hilarious.
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Ho boy here we go. Bashing on the unrealistic nature of an anime. I forgot, we all watch anime for its realism.


Not this crazy guy here! I don't give 2 craps for "realism" or what's "believable" for that matter as long as I'm enjoying a series.
Btw, nice username.

Though I'm thinking of giving One Piece another chance when I'm in the mood. I'll skip the fillers and go for a DBZ Kai route. Worked REALLY well for me with Naruto Shippuden. Unless OP fillers do focus on the crew (like in DBZ) and not on some forgettable villains (like in the Naruto), that's a different story. If any fan wants to clear that up for me without any spoilers (that's probably asking for too much lol), I'd appreciate it.
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In my honest opinion that whole fiasco should have never happened to begin with. I was far from satisfied with the reveal. Especially how the clip was conveniently shown after Eren shows up as a Great Ape I mean titan.

Anyhow I believe that should have been saved for the end not the dead beginning. When I saw Eren eaten and digested I wanted him to stay dead. Or at least come out as shit in some comedy relief. Not appear as a buff manservice titan kicking ass.


I'm a huge fan of shounen but this specific moment was awful.
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KingOfHeroess stop saying dues ex machinima in every sentence, also is it deus ex machina you mean?
I think OP was a horrible show in the beginning and I had a hard time getting into it, but after 20-30 episodes I was hooked. In my opinion Attack on Titan is decent, but it's annoying me so much more than OP ever did.
You should stop watching OP and I should stop watching Attack on titan
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if you don't have a problem with that then im sure you wont have a problem in the future if luffy starts to fly without any explanation what so ever and the show goes on and he uses his new ability to be awesome and defeat enemies. enjoying unexplained events or power ups is just kiddish, naruto and bleach seem to be completely free of that problem however one piece is not thorough at all with anything they do nothing seems real, everything is possible no matter how ridiculously far fetched and rule breaking it is.
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badisglaid wrote:

you keep saying it wrong it's Deus ex Machina btw not "machinima"

and if what you're saying is true name another shounen that involves normal human beings breaking the setting of the fictional world they're in. in naruto they are all ninja's they can do whatever the hell they want, in bleach soul reapers do their things and chat and orihime have that extraordinary ability because of the will of the hogyoko which aizen explain later on.. so in one piece you got devil fruit users and you got normal people why the hell does the normal people have UNEXPLAINED EXTRAORDINARY abilities this is what just drives me nuts in one piece and you seem to not get this point at all.

oh and the author doesn't need to announce the rules or anything like you said, the rules are comprehensible to everyone watching the show it's denoted by the setting of that particular series.


lol, if you're arguing that One Piece isn't realistic enough or follow any particular set of rules...then please just stop watching. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Yes, please just stop watching. Its shameful and kind of embarrassing that anyone would get on some high horse about anime "rules"....lol. omg, too hilarious.


if you don't have a problem with that then im sure you wont have a problem in the future if luffy starts to fly without any explanation what so ever and the show goes on and he uses his new ability to be awesome and defeat enemies. enjoying unexplained events or power ups is just kiddish, naruto and bleach seem to be completely free of that problem however one piece is not thorough at all with anything they do nothing seems real, everything is possible no matter how ridiculously far fetched and rule breaking it is.
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badisglaid wrote:

if you don't have a problem with that then im sure you wont have a problem in the future if luffy starts to fly without any explanation what so ever and the show goes on and he uses his new ability to be awesome and defeat enemies. enjoying unexplained events or power ups is just kiddish, naruto and bleach seem to be completely free of that problem however one piece is not thorough at all with anything they do nothing seems real, everything is possible no matter how ridiculously far fetched and rule breaking it is.



And THAT is what makes One Piece so great. Because every crazy ass thing is possible. Rules suck.
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I personally don't think One Piece is a very typical shonen manga. I think Eiichrio Oda does his very best to avoid stupid cliches, even though the 9 members are fun to watch, they never over-emphasize how "One great big family" they are like they do to death in Fairy Tail. Another anti-cliche that one piece has is Nami, most anime and manga try pathetically and desperately hard to make their female characters into pure little angels, where as One Piece always focuses on how greedy, angry, and selfish Nami is, which makes her one of my favorite females in anime. Personally, the best scene in the entire show is Luffy Vs Ussop, I emplore you watch that episode where they yell at eachother over Merry. Another anti-cliche is Oda's harsh stance on romance pandering, which I admire alot, most of the time I see in Naruto, Bleach, or Fairy Tail videos is idiotic stuff like "NALU 4EVER! YOLO!" Or "SAKURA SUCKS, HINAXNARU 4EVER YOLO! SWAG!" Pointless romance just takes away from the story. I think luffy is a very funny and great main character. Main characters for shonen anime tend to be very safe and boring characters, Naruto's personal problems don't interest me much, Ichigo is just a cut out, and god I wish I could chop Natsu's head off. Despite Luffy not having much room for character development, at the very least, he's fun to watch since One Piece isn't aiming for high art. Water 7 is usually seen as the very best arc which is after the skypeia and davy back arc. Comedy and character chemistry is where One Piece accels in terms of likability.
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Posted 8/2/13

sekicharat wrote:


badisglaid wrote:

if you don't have a problem with that then im sure you wont have a problem in the future if luffy starts to fly without any explanation what so ever and the show goes on and he uses his new ability to be awesome and defeat enemies. enjoying unexplained events or power ups is just kiddish, naruto and bleach seem to be completely free of that problem however one piece is not thorough at all with anything they do nothing seems real, everything is possible no matter how ridiculously far fetched and rule breaking it is.



And THAT is what makes One Piece so great. Because every crazy ass thing is possible. Rules suck.


i would enjoy the possibility of anything if it was properly explained. i would like the show i'm watching to be realistic in terms of common logic.
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