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Posted 9/4/13

Zachman wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:



Paprika.


I know...



I'm sorry. Your question to badisglaid seemed like an inquiry of the anime.
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Posted 9/5/13

aeb0717 wrote:


Zachman wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:



Paprika.


I know...



I'm sorry. Your question to badisglaid seemed like an inquiry of the anime.


It's cool...It's just...I made an edit afterwards...Turns out after I quoted the original, I found the name about one or two pages later...Felt like a major idiot so I made that edit.

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Someone please give me an episode # and I will try it again, I really want to solve this mystery.


Most OP fans would agree that Arabasta arc is where the epic starts.
It's around episode 90.





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riiiiiight so you see the reason for this thread is not for anyone to show sympathy or care for the fact that i'm dropping this series, it's made so staunch one piece defenders such as yourself can express themselves and state what exactly do they like in one piece and whether it's worth or not which you completely failed to accomplish, so thanks for your ignorance.


Viva has stated that he would rather enjoy Goda's work than your dumb rants.
I agree with him since you and your fodder fetish don't really criticize the show's
important factors at all.


vivi was a boring and un interesting character that i never cared about, the whole thing with crocodile and his plans took years to unravel, borroque works agents where hideously designed that i couldn't even come close to liking them,


Subjective. BIASED opinion.
Come back later when you have a have an actual argument
worth discussing about.




badisglaid wrote:

true i never had this ordeal watching naruto or bleach. well with bleach it was a little slow the first 17 episode but then it picked up like crazy (fillers aside)


Except Bleach detergent was only good for about 60 episodes
and One Piece for 500+.

I'd prefer an anime with a bad start BUT consistently delivers until now
than an anime with a good start BUT free-falls like a rock quality-wise.




I suck at quoting long posts, so please don't kill me. But uh, you wouldn't happen to know where that gif might be from would you?

Edit: I suck at reading threads. Please kill me.


Dude, you are a legend. Spot on.

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if u dont like something dont watch itso youcango withh the trend
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Are you kidding me?

The Thriller Bark Arc starts like 320 episodes into the anime. Don't watch 300+ episodes of anime and then cry about it sucks and you can't get into it. You're already in to it. Nobody watches 320-330 episodes of an anime they don't like on some level. I don't understand Hitman Reborn's popularity. I dropped it at episode 2. Someone convinced me to try and power through. I made it to episode 6. There's no way I'm going to make it to episode 70 when they say it gets good, let alone watch it all the way to episode 320. I can't take it.

If you subjected yourself to that much "boredom" for that long, just because other people say it's good (and it is, to me.) You have bigger issues than just anime to worry about it.

If you can't keep going, then don't. But, I think you can and you will. You're invested at 320 episodes or more. (Plus, you even ask us not to spoil an anime that you said you're dropping.)

I almost feel like spoiling Marineford for you. Just out of spite for the ridiculousness of it all....but I won't.

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I can see why some people may not like One Piece. It cuts down on fillers so it isn't like Naruto which is like 70% fillers. However in the stead of fillers it makes some of its episodes boring by adding in a lot of pointless running scenes and long stalling reactions. As much as I like watching One Piece, even I do get bored when it does that.

What I am talking about specifically is, it will often have like 30 second - 1 minute sessions of characters just gasping surprised at something. There is a lot of stalling in One Piece.
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I'm a large fan of One Piece itself, but not it in general.

The characters are solid, the art style is unique, the stories are good, and the sense of adventure is mighty fine. Depending on the direction an Arc is headed, it might be good or bad.

Episode 60 or so is where I draw the line of epic. While the show has a some good scenes and spots before it, Arlong and the Fishmen Pirates I hold as one of the better Arc's in Anime.
I believe it's episode 63 or 64 - Best episode in 1 piece. Includes everything you need! Children, Backstory, Character development, and Death. Even the 4-Kids version I originally grew up watching on channel 27 could not diminish the greatness of that Arc and Fight! Nami crying, only to have Luffy walk up, confirm he didn't have a single shred of back story bias, as he doesn't know ANY of the back story the show spend the last episode explaining to the Audience and the rest of cast, and just wanted to help... That was a strong moment to me. Rewatching One Piece had me boringly skip a lot of episodes, but from that moment on I was hooked, I wanted to see the second half of this show, so I did.

Arc's like CP9 are worse than their reputation. Even the author knows it! I believe he's admitted that it was kinda a "meh" arc to him, but the fans ate that shit UP.

And Sky Island? Or more importantly, 100 Episodes of nothing happening? That Arc has some epic moments..bogged down by hundreds of chapters. It's not even the Anime! It's the Manga that held the problem, he fixed it as time goes on...but anything Oda planned before hand has a tendency to go too long. Marineford and Prison-land are huge offenders as well.

And oh god, Fishman Island. That one was horrible. I mean DRUGS? REALLY? YOU'RE GIVING US A DRUG PSA? WHAT'S NEXT ONE PIECE? STRANGER DANGER? Ooooh...we get to Punk Hazard and...MORE DRUGS! Did your kid suddenly pick up a meth habit before your wrote these or something? 2 Ar'c's with a message about drugs! Come OOOON! I don't like drug's either but DAYUM YOU'RE SHOVING IT DOWN MY THROAT HERE.

In fact, One Piece has gone on so long, I don't think Oda remembers his characters anymore. Punk Hazard had Zoro doing the "I don't hit women" gig, which completely butchered his intentionally un-sexist character establishment. Zoro's best speech involved him talking about how insulting it would be if someone lost and said "oh, I'm a girl so you're a cheating op male, that's why I lost" and HE PULLS THE DON'T HIT WOMEN CARD?

Come on!

The current arc is shaping up to be rather awesome, and I look forward to it..sorta. I follow One Piece, but I don't feel as tho I have to. TO be perfeclty honest, I've never seen the Thriller Bark Arc...well, half of it. I'm half way through but haven't finished.
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Posted 1/26/14 , edited 1/26/14

Felstalker wrote:
Actually the Arlong arc was from 31 - 45.


Felstalker wrote:
Arc's like CP9 are worse than their reputation. Even the author knows it! I believe he's admitted that it was kinda a "meh" arc to him, but the fans ate that shit UP.
I don't think you got this right either. Oda said he was surprised that people liked the Marineford war arc that much, not because he didn't think it was good but because of it as a war arc. He said that the end of the series war(which has been mentioned many times and is what the series is leading up to) is supposed to blow it out of the water, not that he thought it was meh.


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And Sky Island? Or more importantly, 100 Episodes of nothing happening? That Arc has some epic moments..bogged down by hundreds of chapters. It's not even the Anime! It's the Manga that held the problem, he fixed it as time goes on...but anything Oda planned before hand has a tendency to go too long. Marineford and Prison-land are huge offenders as well.
Sky Island was actually only 66 chapters or 42 episodes and is pretty important to the series. I suggest you read this http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Skypiea_Arc#Story_Impact and knowing Oda there is probably some other parts that are important too.


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And oh god, Fishman Island. That one was horrible. I mean DRUGS? REALLY? YOU'RE GIVING US A DRUG PSA? WHAT'S NEXT ONE PIECE? STRANGER DANGER? Ooooh...we get to Punk Hazard and...MORE DRUGS! Did your kid suddenly pick up a meth habit before your wrote these or something? 2 Ar'c's with a message about drugs! Come OOOON! I don't like drug's either but DAYUM YOU'RE SHOVING IT DOWN MY THROAT HERE.
And Fishman Island was definitely not about drugs. It was about racism and has been set up since the Arlong arc. Forgiveness(Nami and Jinbe), letting the next generation decide what to believe in(Fisher Tiger's flashback and Luffy's fight with Hordy), how hateful speech can influence the young(Hordy never had any human do anything wrong to him yet he still hated them), etc. With important moments like the blood transfusion and asking Jinbe to be in his crew. I think the drugs were there if any reason were to show how destructive and fleeting their strength and solution(enslaving all humans) is.

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I don't waste my time with the anime anymore since the animation quality is in constant flux. Why can't it be broken up into seasons with a decent budget, dawg? Something fairly consistent like H x H?
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Actually the Arlong arc was from 31 - 45.

I don't think you got this right either. Oda said he was surprised that people liked the Marineford war arc that much, not because he didn't think it was good but because of it as a war arc. He said that the end of the series war(which has been mentioned many times and is what the series is leading up to) is supposed to blow it out of the water, not that he thought it was meh.

Sky Island was actually only 66 chapters or 42 episodes and is pretty important to the series. I suggest you read this http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Skypiea_Arc#Story_Impact and knowing Oda there is probably some other parts that are important too.

And Fishman Island was definitely not about drugs. It was about racism and has been set up since the Arlong arc. Forgiveness(Nami and Jinbe), letting the next generation decide what to believe in(Fisher Tiger's flashback and Luffy's fight with Hordy), how hateful speech can influence the young(Hordy never had any human do anything wrong to him yet he still hated them), etc. With important moments like the blood transfusion and asking Jinbe to be in his crew.



You make a lot of good points. I was wrong on the episode count for Arlong, but I stand by the episodes themselves.

I was sure Oda said he was surprised about Water 7 and CP9, but I can't hold arguments about what he said. From what I remember, the Arc's between Sky Island and Thriller Bark were intended to be a sort of cooldown/break period for Oda. Smaller arc's with more fun and less weight. And upon release Water 7 and following Arc's were really well recieved. They deserve some praise, but have many faults.

Sky Island was indeed a great arc, and I tend to include Jaya as part of it's arc as well, but it it felt far longer than it should have with some definite pacing issues. It really showcased a lot of Oda's faults as a writer. From telling 3 to 4 Fight scenes at once, holding enough filler characters to satisfy a spin-off, and having none of those secondary characters relevant to future plots.

Fishman had a sub-plot about Hody and company taking Drugs. Additionally, the racism theme was far stronger in the original Arlong Park arc. Sure the Fishmen were racist and humans are racist, but that's been done before. Hody himself was more of a rehash than an actual villain, and I quite venomously hate under-water related stories. So I tend to rate such things lowly.
Jinbe was amazing, and the ending of that Arc was strong, but a lot of the arc felt too disjointed to me, Punk Hazard is far stronger with better pacing, more plot relevance, and more epic scenes.
Fishman Island had a several flashback moments, including the Royalty Queen Flashback, Hody's individual Flashbacks, and Fisher Tiger's flashback. this really breaks the narrative and pacing of it's arc, and that's not cool.
The entire arc took itself very seriously, but I could not. It felt like the Straw Hats were doing some quest line from a lower level Zone, and breezing through it.

I feel One Piece has some weak moments. Oda can, and is, trying harder with each arc.
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You make a lot of good points. I was wrong on the episode count for Arlong, but I stand by the episodes themselves.

I was sure Oda said he was surprised about Water 7 and CP9, but I can't hold arguments about what he said. From what I remember, the Arc's between Sky Island and Thriller Bark were intended to be a sort of cooldown/break period for Oda. Smaller arc's with more fun and less weight. And upon release Water 7 and following Arc's were really well recieved. They deserve some praise, but have many faults.

Sky Island was indeed a great arc, and I tend to include Jaya as part of it's arc as well, but it it felt far longer than it should have with some definite pacing issues. It really showcased a lot of Oda's faults as a writer. From telling 3 to 4 Fight scenes at once, holding enough filler characters to satisfy a spin-off, and having none of those secondary characters relevant to future plots.

Fishman had a sub-plot about Hody and company taking Drugs. Additionally, the racism theme was far stronger in the original Arlong Park arc. Sure the Fishmen were racist and humans are racist, but that's been done before. Hody himself was more of a rehash than an actual villain, and I quite venomously hate under-water related stories. So I tend to rate such things lowly.
Jinbe was amazing, and the ending of that Arc was strong, but a lot of the arc felt too disjointed to me, Punk Hazard is far stronger with better pacing, more plot relevance, and more epic scenes.
Fishman Island had a several flashback moments, including the Royalty Queen Flashback, Hody's individual Flashbacks, and Fisher Tiger's flashback. this really breaks the narrative and pacing of it's arc, and that's not cool.
The entire arc took itself very seriously, but I could not. It felt like the Straw Hats were doing some quest line from a lower level Zone, and breezing through it.

I feel One Piece has some weak moments. Oda can, and is, trying harder with each arc.
Yeah, I was only correcting you on the episodes.

I don't remember hearing him ever talk about Water 7 and CP9, only the whitebeard war arc and I distinctly remember that as he compared it to the future war. And I think he would see that as a good arc or not be surprised people liked it, there was at least three very sad but great moments in those two arcs. And maybe the Davy Back fight arc as I can't see how it's that important to the overall plot and it's never really been brought up I could see as a cooldown arc. But I don't see how a whole saga or over 100 chapters especially with all the stuff that happened(all the impact to the current and future story, etc) would be for a cooldown.

Well I don't remember any pacing issues bothering me but I can't comment too much on that as I haven't watched it in over a year. And haha, I think a certain someone from that arc might be relevant later. And correction we haven't seen any of those characters relevant to any arcs yet, but that doesn't mean it won't happen, like I mentioned I'm pretty sure at least one will and if you count Jaya then from what I hear one is currently(also BB was in Jaya).

So you just admit that it was a sub plot in that arc and not the whole thing. No, actually it hasn't been done before. The things that were shown were basically all different. The Arlong arc itself was just the beginning to the whole racism thing, Fishman island is the middle, and I'm guessing later when they all take Noah up will be the end. Jinbe letting Arlong loose was mentioned around episode 20 in the anime, the shape of Arlong's house being the same shape as the park he was never allowed into, Nami's feelings about Arlong, Jinbe, and fishman in general. Those things were all set up in the beginning and let loose in that arc. The Arlong arc just showed how fishmen were racist towards humans, it didn't show why they are like that and what the humans had done, it also didn't show the general fishman community's views and the kids which are very important. That's something that was mostly shown later. There was all the stuff with the slaves, and the tenryubito coming down, trying to be recognized with the World Government, Jinbe and Luffy's blood transfusion and friendship, Fisher Tiger's experience and how he still didn't want to pass on hate, the kids cheering on Luffy and them and realizing they are not the bad guys, Shirahoshi's resolve, etc.
Hordy was different because nothing had happened to him and how he and what he was doing to the whole fishman island was a result of that fishman island's hate for humans that they passed on to him. That was the big reveal(which I thought could have been done a little better, a little melodramatic). Well it can't be helped if you hate underwater stories, I guess fortunately that's the only one so far.
And I don't think the fishman island arc was really lacking in the story impact department but most of the things will take hold later(poseidon and noah, Joyboy and the poneglyph, the phophecy of Luffy destroying FI, the fight with Big Mom, Jinbe's mission before joining the crew, etc)
I didn't think the flashbacks broke anything, that's what the arc was supposed to be like. The past has a lot of relevance to the future, especially with the history of the fishmen.

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Well I would suggest continuing the Manga, That's what I have done.

The manga seems to display the series to me, much better than the anime.
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The only real BS I see about OP is that the villains fight like they're going to kill the main characters but never finish them off after the KO. Then the main characters rebound and still manage to beat the villains even though they should really have no chance to. There are some pacing issues and some of the arcs tend to drag out in certain parts longer than you'd like, but no one said it was going to be perfect.


For me, it's fun to watch. It's something I can sit down to watch without putting much thought into what is going and be entertained by the action and adventure the characters deal with, so it's great for long days that wear down your mind and you just need to zone out.
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Oda's more planned arc's tend to be convoluted. This is where the pacing issues tend to come in.

Fishman Island, Sky Island, and Marine Ford had a mountain of plot developments, character introductions, and general happenings.

They're too planned out, and don't go over as well as they should. No matter how important the overall plot they carry.

Robin's flashback arc and Usopp's Sogeking were really well done, while the entire CP9 itself was really poor. That didn't matter, because of how well Usopp and Robin's character development was during the arc. Oda didn't have the entire thing planned out, but he had the key ideas.

Comparatively, every second of Sky Island has a just-as-planned feel too it. Everything is scripted. It's the result of a massive idea Oda probably had when One Piece started, I mean LOOK AT THE PLACE! Sky Island was one hell of an epic arc. Luffy meeting Lighting-guy is holds the spot for my second favorite moment in One Piece. But the arc itself can rot in hell I say!

Additional problems - I originally saw the 4-Kids dub growing up, which stopped mid-way into Sky Island. I didn't finish the arc itself for years. It was just last May/June that I re watched the entirety of One Piece available on Hulu+.

I can give you an argument about Impel Down/Marine Ford but that arc was handled with some experience. It had problems, but less relevant ones.
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After reading through the description, it seems like your problem is not with the core of the series itself, but surface issues that don't tend to bother other people to the same extent.
Don't worry, your definitely not alone in that, but more people are concerned about what a story has to offer over the surface issues.

Getting down to it, what really bothers you are: the character designs, you don't care for the characters and you don't care for the story either (in the sense that you want more action all the time rather than having down time).
I'll admit the pacing is not always satisfactory, but majority of the time it is not that much different from many other shonen, and what it offers instead is comedic moments to pass the time (so I guess I can add you don't like the comedy to the list).

Basically, if up till this point you don't like the art, characters or comedy, you need to go watch something else. One Piece is not for you.
From your reasons, I'd actually suggest you watch Bleach. More "realistic" art, more typical action and less downtime.
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