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Need for a new cold war.
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Posted 8/2/13 , edited 8/2/13
When the cold war raged between the US and the Soviet Union, there was a race. A race to become an advanced nation from a technological perspective.
This need caused technology to shoot forward. It's what drove the US to make big leaps forward. To do things that humanity had never done. To go exploring into the great, vast cosmos. To further the scientific development of all mankind.
It was all summed up in that legendary, iconic, and most of all -- inspiring quote from Neil Armstrong when Buzz Aldrin first set his foot on the moon. A quote that I up until recently had never really pondered over, but which now is so clear.
"One small step for man. One giant leap for mankind".


But now, 44 years; nearly half a century later, it seems that the world, and the US in particular, has lost that. It has lost the need for innovation. It has lost that urge to go and explore the cosmos. It seems that most people are content with the status quo. That they don't see the need for us to advance as a species. Which has resulted in, as Neil himself put it, that we by the end of the century had achieved substantially less than what he had expected. Than what would have been if things had continued at the same pace.


And it seems to me that at least part of the reason for that, is that there is no such race towards advancement as it was during the cold war.
Sure, science is still moving forward, but not in the same way. There is no longer any need for a nation to prove its superiority over a truly frightening force that threatens its freedom and liberty. There is no arch-nemesis. No clash between two great superpowers that demand great and rapid development. "We'll just take things as they come."
There are several videos to find on this, one of them with famous astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27uIF5q9POM



And not only is this depressing for idealists like me who dream of a day when we as a species can truly refer to us selves as "great", but more than that it is something that could lead to our downfall as a species. To our extinction.
At least, that is how it seems to me. So I cannot help but wish that there would be another cold war. Another situation that would force us as a collective to advance. To become greater than what we currently are. To become greater than what we seem to be becoming as the way things are going now.


Is this wrong? Are my views misguided? Am I ignorant? Please share your thoughts.
Posted 8/2/13
I agree that cold wars are a bit scarce lately, ah cold wars... *advanced sobbing*

(Put it in blue to signify that that means cold as in COLD war. like.. COLD. lol)
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Posted 8/2/13
I agree with your thoughts that we should strive for more, however I do not agree that war should be the driving force. Technological advancement isn't worth a large scale loss of human life.
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On the contrary, there should be less war, so that everyone can focus more on technology anyway. I mean, don't stop war completely, no, that'll never happen, no point even trying.
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Gettnlag wrote:

I agree with your thoughts that we should strive for more, however I do not agree that war should be the driving force. Technological advancement isn't worth a large scale loss of human life.


That's why I said Cold War specificly. Which is different from regular war.




CarboKill wrote:

On the contrary, there should be less war, so that everyone can focus more on technology anyway. I mean, don't stop war completely, no, that'll never happen, no point even trying.


But like Neil says in the video -- fear was the driving factor behind all the advancements during the cold war. Fear can be a powerful ally.
And like i said above, cold wars are different from regular wars.
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Posted 8/2/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


Gettnlag wrote:

I agree with your thoughts that we should strive for more, however I do not agree that war should be the driving force. Technological advancement isn't worth a large scale loss of human life.


That's why I said Cold War specificly. Which is different from regular war.




CarboKill wrote:

On the contrary, there should be less war, so that everyone can focus more on technology anyway. I mean, don't stop war completely, no, that'll never happen, no point even trying.


But like Neil says in the video -- fear was the driving factor behind all the advancements during the cold war. Fear can be a powerful ally.
And like i said above, cold wars are different from regular wars.


I understand the difference, I was thinking of the cold war between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. which, though the two never fought directly there was a series of spinoff wars that are still causing bloodshed today. I mean I get your point with the competition but the cold war I am using as an example wasn't truly without violence. I can see how things would be more progressive and I would support your idea if satellite states and trying to obtain power through other nations wasn't involved.
Posted 8/2/13
why don't you start one then if you like them so much
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Posted 8/2/13
The cold war happened because the world was ruled by nations.

Now we are ruled by mega-multinational corporations (under a guise of being ruled by our nations).

As such, it isn't profitable for there to be another cold war to spark the innovations you describe.
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Posted 8/3/13 , edited 8/3/13
I like the idea of innovation BUT technology is going too far. In a bout 20 years everything has one source and that is digital reference. Like internet. What if all electricity and network got shut down? Now everything is working electronically and it's a pain in the ass. Things are getting more automated and soon the computers are controlling that part alone leaving humanity vulnerable. This should only be in movies but look at it. It's not far from reality. About science. You never know when humans can't have their memories and emotions private. There are ideas of experiments on the human brain and how to ''detect'' human emotions. Yeah soon we will be mere toys to our failure in destruction. This was indeed a pessimistic post and I admit that but no matter how hard I believe in a better turn in the world that seems impossible either way. All I can do and maybe most people can do is trying to make the most out of it. Do whatever we can. About fear... Fear can make people do all kinds of things. It's just a matter of how close to death or destruction, the human mind might work a lot harder... I dunno. Well for my personal experience and other rumours I heard about. I worked a lot harder when I was life threatened than now when things are okay. I wish I could work as hard as then but also having a good time... I guess some rules are immovable. Hehe. I hope a cold war or anything like that is not necessary to improve our species but understanding and experience.
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Posted 8/3/13 , edited 8/3/13

Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts



Posted 8/3/13
I think all nations are in a perpetual state of cold war if they aren't in an open declared one.
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Posted 8/4/13

m-seversky wrote:


Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts





If there's something you'd like to say then why not say it directly?
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Posted 8/4/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


m-seversky wrote:


Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts





If there's something you'd like to say then why not say it directly?


Oh dear, does the gif not move?
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Posted 8/4/13
That would be fine and dandy if we weren't already on the verge of becoming a military nation under martial law. And if we weren't already crippled with debt. Technological advancement and innovations are good, but there are other priorities such as human rights and freedoms.
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Posted 8/5/13 , edited 8/5/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


m-seversky wrote:


Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts





If there's something you'd like to say then why not say it directly?


Is that a badger? I'm more interested in whether or not that badger survived it's stupid fall.
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