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Need for a new cold war.
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Posted 8/5/13
I think un-launched nuclear missiles scream cold war pretty clearly
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Posted 8/5/13 , edited 8/5/13

m-seversky wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


m-seversky wrote:


Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts





If there's something you'd like to say then why not say it directly?


Oh dear, does the gif not move?


It does move. I'd just prefer it if you weren't being such a coward about this and just said what you have to say directly.
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Posted 8/5/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


m-seversky wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


m-seversky wrote:


Strahfobiya wrote:

why don't you start one then if you like them so much


lol, OP when it starts





If there's something you'd like to say then why not say it directly?


Oh dear, does the gif not move?


It does move. I'd just prefer it if you weren't being such a coward about this and just said what you have to say directly.


Shut the fuck up, your shit flopped
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What? I'm sorry, I am not familiar with that expression.
Also, I don't understand why you're so angry. I didn't insult you.
Posted 8/5/13
No, that idea is fucking stupid. You are such a brainwashed fool.
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Posted 8/6/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:

When the cold war raged between the US and the Soviet Union, there was a race. A race to become an advanced nation from a technological perspective.
This need caused technology to shoot forward. It's what drove the US to make big leaps forward. To do things that humanity had never done. To go exploring into the great, vast cosmos. To further the scientific development of all mankind.
It was all summed up in that legendary, iconic, and most of all -- inspiring quote from Neil Armstrong when Buzz Aldrin first set his foot on the moon. A quote that I up until recently had never really pondered over, but which now is so clear.
"One small step for man. One giant leap for mankind".


But now, 44 years; nearly half a century later, it seems that the world, and the US in particular, has lost that. It has lost the need for innovation. It has lost that urge to go and explore the cosmos. It seems that most people are content with the status quo. That they don't see the need for us to advance as a species. Which has resulted in, as Neil himself put it, that we by the end of the century had achieved substantially less than what he had expected. Than what would have been if things had continued at the same pace.


And it seems to me that at least part of the reason for that, is that there is no such race towards advancement as it was during the cold war.
Sure, science is still moving forward, but not in the same way. There is no longer any need for a nation to prove its superiority over a truly frightening force that threatens its freedom and liberty. There is no arch-nemesis. No clash between two great superpowers that demand great and rapid development. "We'll just take things as they come."
There are several videos to find on this, one of them with famous astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27uIF5q9POM



And not only is this depressing for idealists like me who dream of a day when we as a species can truly refer to us selves as "great", but more than that it is something that could lead to our downfall as a species. To our extinction.
At least, that is how it seems to me. So I cannot help but wish that there would be another cold war. Another situation that would force us as a collective to advance. To become greater than what we currently are. To become greater than what we seem to be becoming as the way things are going now.


Is this wrong? Are my views misguided? Am I ignorant? Please share your thoughts.



Why not a hot war? WWII ended the Great Depression. A 3rd World War may give the economy the boost it needs.
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Posted 8/6/13 , edited 8/6/13

Ragnaken wrote:

No, that idea is fucking stupid. You are such a brainwashed fool.


I don't really see how I am brainwashed since this is something that I thought of all on my own, simply by pondering the lack of innovation today compared to that during the cold war.

But okay. Would you mind elaborating on this? On why it is stupid and why you believe I'm brainwashed.
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Posted 8/6/13 , edited 8/6/13


The US government has been fighting one for the past 12 years. If anything, it has only made their situation worse.
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The US government has been fighting one for the past 12 years. If anything, it has only made their situation worse.


Our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan are nowhere near the scale of World War 2. Hell the last 12 years of war fail to compare to 3 days at Gettysburg. The D-Day invasion at Normandy and Iwo JIma cost more men than Iraq and Afghanistan. While long and protracted the last 12 years have been relatively minor compared to the wars of the past. The problem with the "Wars on Terror" are that we have the supplies and equipment to fight on that scale for quite a while. WWII boosted the economy by creating jobs in particularly in the Industrial sector. Unfortunately the US has given up much of it's Industry



As you can see Total manufacturing has significantly declined while service and finance business have gone up. The US needs to reclaim the Industrial jobs. Nothing would stimulate industry like war on a large scale. True this is not an ideal solution and the costs in life would be severe. However, purely as a thought-experiment war has in the past dragged us out of a Depression. In theory it may do so again.
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