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The anime never did a good job of explaining this, but after Senjougahara's trauma is completely dealt with (I think in Nise) her character develops immensely (albeit this is not a good thing). It's really disappointing. There's also a lot, A LOT, of scenes in Hanekawa's arc that the anime has not set you up to completely understand. And I think that the Monogotari expositions are usually quite... poor.


Senjougahara did act differently, but i think we need to take in to account how this was Hanekawa's perspective. I dont mean Senjougahara didin't change but you know that may be the way Hanekawa portrays Senjougahara

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Mikey435 wrote:

The anime never did a good job of explaining this, but after Senjougahara's trauma is completely dealt with (I think in Nise) her character develops immensely (albeit this is not a good thing). It's really disappointing. There's also a lot, A LOT, of scenes in Hanekawa's arc that the anime has not set you up to completely understand. And I think that the Monogotari expositions are usually quite... poor.


Senjougahara did act differently, but i think we need to take in to account how this was Hanekawa's perspective. I dont mean Senjougahara didin't change but you know that may be the way Hanekawa portrays Senjougahara

Indeed, this book and anime arc is narrated by Hanekawa, NOT by Araragi. Therefore it comes from a different perspective. She writes differently and she sees things differently than he does.
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So I've been having this thought, that there's no way this anime can do any wrong.

Once a series has reached my "favorites" status, then it's like all they have to do is call it Monogatari and I'll automatically love it. 'Cause some people say, "Oh, this wasn't the best episode," or, "There wasn't a whole lot happening this time around," but honestly I don't really see how this series can have a bad episode unless they completely screw it up.

I feel the same way about Railgun, TWGOK, AoT, Hyperdimension Neptunia, and Senyu currently Even their bad episodes are good, for some reason. They make me glad anime exists.
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Episode 1


Also,


It's probably the whole skinship practice that goes on in Japan and I'm sure in other countries, apart with being sexually comfortable with yourself it doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me. Though being in a relationship and doing that sort of thing is where it crosses the line for me >.>

Just because it's the same sex doesn't make it not cheating...
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Ok quick question. I haven't watched a single one of the monogatari series but i know other than this one there are three others. Bake, Nise, and Neko. In which order do I watch them in?
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Ok quick question. I haven't watched a single one of the monogatari series but i know other than this one there are three others. Bake, Nise, and Neko. In which order do I watch them in?


Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari: Kuro, Monogatari Second Season

and then there's Kizumonogatari that's coming out as a movie, which I believe was released before the Monogatari Second Season if you're going by the book release date.
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FalseDetective wrote:

Ok quick question. I haven't watched a single one of the monogatari series but i know other than this one there are three others. Bake, Nise, and Neko. In which order do I watch them in?


Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari: Kuro, Monogatari Second Season


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Posted 8/14/13 , edited 8/14/13

TrueGoober wrote:


FalseDetective wrote:

Ok quick question. I haven't watched a single one of the monogatari series but i know other than this one there are three others. Bake, Nise, and Neko. In which order do I watch them in?


Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari: Kuro, Monogatari Second Season

and then there's Kizumonogatari that's coming out as a movie, which I believe was released before the Monogatari Second Season if you're going by the book release date.

Yes, Book Order is:

First Season:
Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Kizumonogatari

Second Season:
Nekomonogatari Kuro, Nekomonogatari Shiro, Kabukimonogatari, Hanamonogatari, Otorimonogatari, Onimonogatari, Koimonogatari

Final Season:
Tsukimonogatari, Koyomimonogatari, Owarimonogatari, Zokuowarimonogatari

But Broadcast Order is:
Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari Kuro, Nekomonogatari Shiro, Kabukimonogatari, Otorimonogatari, Onimonogatari, Koimonogatari, Hanamonogatari...

But Chronological Order is:
Kizumonogatari, Nekomonogatari Kuro, Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari Shiro/Kabukimonogatari, Otorimonogatari, Onimonogatari, Koimonogatari, Owarimonogatari, Zokuowarimonogatari, Hanamonogatari with Koyomimonogatari spanning ALL of them with a short story per month.

Hopefully Kizumonogatari comes out before Final Season. It is borderline criminal that it didn't come out before Nekomonogatari Shiro and Kabukimonogatari as they refer to people and events in Kizu, sigh...

At the end of all that I still recommend watching in broadcast order BUT make sure you watch episodes 13-15 of Bakemonogatari. They are not on Crunchyroll, sadly; hopefully they will get them one day or you may need to watch them on Daisuki, assuming it gets them (they only have up to episode 10 up so far, 3 weeks to find out if they get 13). Otherwise you will be missing the important end of the Tsubasa Cat arc. I bought the Bakemonogatari Bluray Boxed Set to see them...
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Yea, I dont really like this side of hitagi's personality. She was a far better character is bake and nise to be honest. Though it could just be that she acts differently when not around araragi
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Posted 8/14/13 , edited 8/14/13

mipegg wrote:

Yea, I dont really like this side of hitagi's personality. She was a far better character is bake and nise to be honest. Though it could just be that she acts differently when not around araragi
I repeat, this is Hanekawa's impression of Hitagi. Bake and Nise were Araragi's impression. They think differently of her. These are first person accounts.
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mipegg wrote:

Yea, I dont really like this side of hitagi's personality. She was a far better character is bake and nise to be honest. Though it could just be that she acts differently when not around araragi
I repeat, this is Hanekawa's impression of Hitagi. Bake and Nise were Araragi's impression. They think differently of her. These are first person accounts.


Suddenly I like this alot more than I did. Shame they dont really explain it at all
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Posted 8/16/13 , edited 8/16/13
If anyone wants to see the trailer for the second book this season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4gl_NUWJMk It's also on CR now
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Mayoi was the one character I hated. But I'll watch it anyway....for the animation if anything else.
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Posted 8/17/13 , edited 8/17/13
I'm really missing Araragi, and am having a hard getting accustomed to the different perspective. I still love a lot of the scenes visually, and I loved the seasonings conversation. But so far, that's been about it.
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Episode 3:

I flipped it back upright


Well Kanbaru, Karen, Tsukihi, and Shinobu all show up again. And based on the ending, looks like next episode will be good.
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