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68 years ago America issued an ultimatum to imperial Japan, surrender or the bomb. 300,000 mostly civilians paid the ultimate price for their military leaders arrogance. Were we right? Is the use of atomic weapons inhumane under any circumstance?
IMHO, Japan was bent on world domination and committed crimes equal to the Nazi's.
But I cannot say we were justified, we all lost.
Ironically,with no army of its own Japan is dependent the US nuclear arsenal for protection.
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Victim of the Military Industrial Complex who have started all wars for profit and for the suffering of humanity.
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I think the bombs saved more lives on both sides. I think the civilian death toll for invasion would have been in the millions. I also think the second reason we dropped the bomb was to send russia a message if they had any ideas of taking out the rest of eourope.
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Developing and using atomic bombs was a disgrace to military warfare, dropping them on innocents and choosing which cities would cause the most civilian casualties delves it the darkest evil one can achieve. No matter what civilians are to be kept out of harms way no matter how many soldiers have to die in the process, what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki will remain the darkest day in human history.
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i think it was super humane!! ambiguous meaning btw... i would've tried to protect our territories in a different way , using less violence somehow idk just dont want to destroy mother earth with a bomb but seriously would you just sit their and watch a foreign country try to take over your territories and watch it gain status as a rival?? why do you make it seem like the u.s. operates in the world like it want's to make everything good for everyone, the u.s. doesn't work that way it's a country not a frken buddha... i wish it did though too much hate in the world... /:
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America: Delivering freedom from 30,000 feet for 68 years and counting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf21Afj9Neg
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The darkest day in human history must have somehow slept through the Nanking Massacre then.
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America is the perpetuator of all wars.
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Paladin_Vargas wrote:

Developing and using atomic bombs was a disgrace to military warfare, dropping them on innocents and choosing which cities would cause the most civilian casualties delves it the darkest evil one can achieve. No matter what civilians are to be kept out of harms way no matter how many soldiers have to die in the process, what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki will remain the darkest day in human history.


Okay, I made a silly post in this thread, but this looks like it needs some discussion: Do you actually think somebody's life has less moral value if they join (or are conscripted into) the military? If you're serious about "no matter how many", do you really think that whether a young man lives or dies becomes irrelevant to an ethical decision once they're in the military? What's the difference between an "innocent civilian" and a conscript?
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Putting a price on human life? What a dumbass.
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Bombs make ha-chan sad.
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The life of a child is more important then that of an adult or would you just standby as a child dies Ragnaken?
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I think it was justified, the death toll if America decided to invade by land would have been way higher. America could have chosen better cities, though.
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A soldiers job is to fight and die,we have armies to protect the land and people that's what they are for. If their is a draft and you do not believe in the war dodge it. If you are forcefully conscripted refuse to pick up a weapon. What I was getting at is they bypassed the army and went straight to the civilians.
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I've seen many documentaries on Fat Man and Little Boy. I saw film from the devastation of the bomb and its aftermath. I know a lot of people will argue for either side, Japan or the United States.

I will not get into this discussion. Why? It will not bring all those who died in that war back to life.

I think most of the Japanese people who died from both bombs didn't really have anything to do with the war. I think they just wanted to live their lives the best they could. It wasn't really their choice to go to war. Anyone who says it might have been can't be certain because they weren't alive then and I doubt many Americans can say they knew someone from that time who survived the bombs.

I look at it this way. I was against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, the United States may have gone in there and waged war, but that doesn't mean all Americans wanted that to happen. I think the same can be said for the Japanese people. I doubt many of them wanted to go to war. As I said, they just wanted to live their lives.

There is really nothing anyone can say or do today that will change what happened all those years ago. Even the United States has admitted that they could have handled things differently back then. President Clinton offered an official apology to Japan while he was in office. I think that was the right thing to do. I can see pitting their soldiers against our soldiers when it comes to war, but the killing of innocents was wrong. I know people will argue that the bombs may have ultimately saved more lives since it ended the war. No one can know for sure if that would have been true.

Consider the following:

I don't dislike anyone when it comes to race, religion, creed, geographic location, color, background...none of that. I am sure the Japanese citizens who died that day probably felt the same way. I am sure most of them had no quarrels with Americans other than their government was at war with us. I have read over the history of WWII and it is pretty sickening. I've read about the concentration camps we had here in the US during that time. I found it terrible that an American citizen could have all their rights stripped away and tossed into such a place simply because they were Asian. People always remember the camps the Jewish people had to live in, but no one ever talks about the loss of liberty Asian Americans had to endure during those dark days. In a lot of ways, that sort of behavior still happens.

After September 11th, 2001, a lot of American citizens of Middle Eastern descent were ridiculed, threatened, and investigated simply because of the color of their skin and their names. Even now I find it hard to even mention the Quran without being asked if I'm a sympathizer. I just wish people would finally get over such things and look at a person's character and not their skin color.

I think maybe that might have been the thinking when Truman decided to drop the bombs on Japan. Maybe someone said "Well, they're all Japanese so it doesn't matter who we kill." All these years later it feels like people still think that way.

I think when I am finally able to go to Japan I will visit Hiroshima and Nagasaki to see the memorials. I am sure the Japanese people living today know that we aren't proud of what our fathers and grandfathers did before we were here. I am sure there are people there who are still bitter toward any American for what happened. If I run into one, there isn't really anything I can do to change their minds other than to express my condolences. All we can really do is look at those events and learn from them. I sincerely hope no one ever decides to drop a nuclear bomb ever again. I don't care what is on the line. The mass killing of innocents is unacceptable.
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