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What do you think of Nationalism?
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Posted 9/6/13
It's not bad if you like your homeland and your people. It only gets dangerous when one begins to see one's own homeland and people as superior to others. That's when things get ugly fast.
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Posted 9/7/13 , edited 9/7/13
Here it still has a lot of violent associations. Innocent people were murdered in Ireland's name.

It's fine to be proud of your country I guess, especially when it and it's people have been through a lot of shit but as others have said once you start thinking you're superior things turn nasty.
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Posted 9/7/13
I hate nationalism, to be honest. It's been the cause of too much unnecessary conflict. It's better that humans see themselves and others as people first and foremost.
Posted 9/8/13 , edited 9/8/13
I propose the following definition of the nation: it is an imagined political community-and imagined as both inherently limited and sovereign. It is imagined because the members of even the smallest nation will never know most of their fellow-members, meet them, or even hear of them, yet in the minds of each lives the image of their communion.... Communities are to be distinguished, not by their falsity/genuineness, but by the style in which they are imagined.... Finally, [the nation] is imagined as a community, because, regardless of the actual inequality and exploitation that may prevail in each, the nation is conceived as a deep, horizontal comradeship. Ultimately, it is this fraternity that makes it possible, over the past two centuries for so many millions of people, not so much to kill, as willing to die for such limited imaginings.”

― Benedict Anderson

In my opinion it's only dangerous when it's encompassed by insecurity. You will see it take course when you feel your country is under threat.
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Posted 9/14/13
Nationalism itself, if defining simply as 'wanting your nation to grow in some way' can be either a good thing or a bad thing. It simply depends on whether helping your nation to grow (I don't mean in terms of territory, although some might try to define it as such) means at the expense of other nations or groups.

On a more personal note however, I'm rather averse to Nationalism, but that's only because my mind deals in terms of people either as individuals or groups. So simply put any dealings I have with a Nation is more or less at best a business arrangement of sorts, which I honor as long as there is not a breach of contract, so to speak.
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Posted 9/15/13
National pride is a double-edged sword in my opinion. You want your country to exceed in all fields, which is good for the citizens. Lower poverty, better education and fitness. All good. But it can make someone want to overlook the faults of their country in a way that practically insults other nations and keeps them in a rut. The U.S. has a reputation of being aggressive and arrogant, a nation of hedonism and greed with very little restraint. But the average American thinks their country is viewed as the knight in shining armor. After the stalemate in Korea, loss in Vietnam and the quagmires that are Mogadishu, Afganistan, Iraq and Libya the U.S. lawmakers are still on this post WWII high as if they are the spirit of good personified. Just like the Great Britian before them. Have pride for your country and what it has accomplished but pride goeth before the fall, so like everything else it is good in moderation.
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You have to look at thing from Hitler's point of view. He didn't want them in his country, and told them to leave. They tried to leave, but NO OTHER country would let them in. You have to realize every country in those months was just like Hitler. No one wanted them. But I do understand how you guys pretty much say that our countries think that they're all big and bad and can do anything when they'll end up killing everyone, including themselves, in the process.
Posted 10/20/13
my opinion is the same as John Lennon's in that song, "Imagine there's no countries".


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Posted 10/20/13
I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have
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Posted 10/27/13 , edited 10/27/13

Rena-Ryuuguu wrote:

If you don't like it, get off your but and do something about it or gfto


I despise this argument. Newsflash: Moving to another country is far from cheap and hassle-free.

As for nationalism, I do not personally support it at all. Last I checked, people do not choose where they are born, and thus I see no reason why I should worship my birthplace by default. I find that highly absurd.
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Posted 10/28/13

uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


scary....
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Posted 10/28/13
This thread: record for minimum posts satisfying Godwin's law.
Posted 11/1/13 , edited 11/1/13
Culture, nationalism / patriotism, theism, racism, sexism, "my sports team can beat your sports team", "my side of town is better than your side of town", "we're totally different people because you're from the south and I'm from the north." It's all the same, and it's all nonsense. People who let themselves get caught up in it usually lack perspective.
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Posted 11/1/13
Nationalism = Hatred, Negativity, Super ego, Dehumanizing others; all of that eventually

I think we categorize to much. We focus more on what's different rather than celebrating our common heritage.

If it were up to me I'd get rid of such a thing.
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Posted 11/2/13 , edited 11/2/13

uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...
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