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I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...


and why do those said counterys have those freedoms perhaps it because the usa safe graurds those freedoms?

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uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...


and why do those said counterys have those freedoms perhaps it because the usa safe graurds those freedoms?



And you base this assumption on what, exactly?
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Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...


and why do those said counterys have those freedoms perhaps it because the usa safe graurds those freedoms?



And you base this assumption on what, exactly?


pull all usa forces out of the far east how long will those counterys keep their freedom? one maybe two months?

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Posted 11/2/13 , edited 11/2/13

uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...


and why do those said counterys have those freedoms perhaps it because the usa safe graurds those freedoms?



And you base this assumption on what, exactly?


pull all usa forces out of the far east how long will those counterys keep their freedom? one maybe two months?



Perhaps you mean the MIDDLE east? The far east would be countries like Japan and South Korea, who manage perfectly fine on their own.
And then of course there's the entirety of Europe and Oceania. Who are all perfectly fine on their own as well.
As for the middle east, can you give any specific reasons for your claim?
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Is it the same as "people shouldn't be proud of their heritage because no one's heritage is better than the next person" or no?

People always say "be proud of your heritage/where you come from".
Does it mean I should be proud of both the negative and positive or mainly positive things about my heritage?!

I don't know.
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Posted 11/2/13 , edited 11/2/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:

I love my country hell I even went to war for it without a second thought and would glady do again. For the simple reason we have something here most of the world doesn't have


You DO realize that most of the western world, and several counries in Africa, Asia and pretty much the entire of Oceania also have freedom, right?
I think your mind has been warped a little too much by pro-american propaganda (I asume the US is your country, based on how you speak).
Not to mention that you're not really AS free as you like to think you are...


and why do those said counterys have those freedoms perhaps it because the usa safe graurds those freedoms?



And you base this assumption on what, exactly?


pull all usa forces out of the far east how long will those counterys keep their freedom? one maybe two months?



Perhaps you mean the MIDDLE east? The far east would be countries like Japan and South Korea, who manage perfectly fine on their own.
And then of course there's the entirety of Europe and Oceania. Who are all perfectly fine on their own as well.
As for the middle east, can you give any specific reasons for your claim?


yeah right and maybe the easter bunny will save the world with rainbow farting kittens which is more likely going to happen.

what do you think is keeping China from taking taiwan ?? Hopeful wishes? No the US 7th fleet
What do you think is keeping North Korea from sweeping south? The US Army
As far as Europa goes ever hear of the balkans 4 year the other Europen countries said stay out usa we will end the fight and in those four years they did nothing so usa said enough we will handle this and in one month of them sending in troops the fighting died down now what does that tell you?
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Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.
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Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.


Ok who can stop them if they deside to do it who in the world can project their power to stop them? Who has the mussle to stand up to China and say no you can't do that and back those words up with force if they have to? anyone anyone at all??

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uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:



Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.


Ok who can stop them if they deside to do it who in the world can project their power to stop them? Who has the mussle to stand up to China and say no you can't do that and back those words up with force if they have to? anyone anyone at all??



No one country alone, no. Because the US ARE indeed a superpower, where as most other are not.
But that doesn't mean China couldn't be stopped with a co-operation of several other countries.
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Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:



Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.


Ok who can stop them if they deside to do it who in the world can project their power to stop them? Who has the mussle to stand up to China and say no you can't do that and back those words up with force if they have to? anyone anyone at all??



No one country alone, no. Because the US ARE indeed a superpower, where as most other are not.
But that doesn't mean China couldn't be stopped with a co-operation of several other countries.


Ok I am not saying it can't be done but you would have to muster all of Nato to inculed France then you got to get them there and that is a very big deal plus you got to keep them feed and keep the ammo coming and that means you got to have clear and safe sea lanes. I honestly don't think much of the world would care if China took Taiwan well maybe Japan only because Japan really fears China
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Posted 11/2/13 , edited 11/2/13

uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:



Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.


Ok who can stop them if they deside to do it who in the world can project their power to stop them? Who has the mussle to stand up to China and say no you can't do that and back those words up with force if they have to? anyone anyone at all??



No one country alone, no. Because the US ARE indeed a superpower, where as most other are not.
But that doesn't mean China couldn't be stopped with a co-operation of several other countries.


Ok I am not saying it can't be done but you would have to muster all of Nato to inculed France then you got to get them there and that is a very big deal plus you got to keep them feed and keep the ammo coming and that means you got to have clear and safe sea lanes. I honestly don't think much of the world would care if China took Taiwan well maybe Japan only because Japan really fears China



You might be right, but it could still be done. But that wasn't really the point to begin with.
The point was that this whole "freedom, bitches" shouting from american patriots is silly, since freedom is by no means something that is exclusive to the US.
Yes, many countries in the world don't have freedom. But many countries do. You're not special or unique in that regard.

In some cases, it is actually the opposite.
https://www.aclu.org/safe-communities-fair-sentences/prison-crisis
But that's neither here nor there.
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Posted 11/2/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


uncletim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:



Your rainbow farting kittens comment is not a reason. It's a sarcastic statement. Not what I asked for.
China and NKorea is under pressure from the rest of the world too and not just the US.
Yes, the US is a considerable part in it, no doubt, but they're not at all the only ones. Don't be arrogant.

And oh yes. Totally. Because the aid of the US in one conflict in one small region totally means that Europe as a whole is dependant on the US in order to maintain their own freedom.
Except it doesn't.
Look, just because the US has provided aid in a few conflicts, doesn't mean that the rest of the world depends on their support in order to preserve their own freedom.


Ok who can stop them if they deside to do it who in the world can project their power to stop them? Who has the mussle to stand up to China and say no you can't do that and back those words up with force if they have to? anyone anyone at all??



No one country alone, no. Because the US ARE indeed a superpower, where as most other are not.
But that doesn't mean China couldn't be stopped with a co-operation of several other countries.


Ok I am not saying it can't be done but you would have to muster all of Nato to inculed France then you got to get them there and that is a very big deal plus you got to keep them feed and keep the ammo coming and that means you got to have clear and safe sea lanes. I honestly don't think much of the world would care if China took Taiwan well maybe Japan only because Japan really fears China



You might be right, but it could still be done. But that wasn't really the point to begin with.
The point was that this whole "freedom, bitches" shouting from american patriots is silly, since freedom is by no means something that is exclusive to the US.
Yes, many countries in the world don't have freedom. But many countries do. You're not special or unique in that regard.

In some cases, it is actually the opposite.
https://www.aclu.org/safe-communities-fair-sentences/prison-crisis
But that's neither here nor there.


oh don't wave that fucking aclu shit in my face those sick bastards are fighting for the right of child molesters to live next to schools all of them could die tomorow and shead a single tear over their rotting bodie. Look I know where your coming from lets just agree to disagree and leave at that before we piss off the CR mods with the long quote trees

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Posted 11/3/13 , edited 11/3/13


Acknowledging that one's country is incarcerating far too many people and calling out for fair sentences is not the same as wanting child molesters to go free. Saying it is, is just stupid.
Besides, they are not the only ones who have expressed concern regarding this. I could've easily cited like a bazillion other sources.
I just chose this one because it was the first one that popped up.

As for the quote trees, dem be an easy problem to solve.
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Posted 11/3/13 , edited 11/3/13
Better stick to what works (America is still gonna need people who think that way). Even when Syndicaidramon is right, patriotism will not change much since things are changing fast elsewhere, china has infiltrated [lol?] a lot more countries. China and Africa, they got one hell of a partnership going on lol.
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