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aidenraine wrote:

hell, I've heard people classify Light and L from Deathnote as a type of male moe.





Posted 8/8/13

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Des85

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)


"The word has come to be used to mean one particular kind of "adorable", one specific type of "cute", mainly as applied to fictional characters." and "Girls who are moe are called moekko (萌えっ娘?) from the honorific "娘" meaning "female child"."


there are so many different kinds of moe, that there is no concrete definition for moe. anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.

hell, I've heard people classify Light and L from Deathnote as a type of male moe.



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amazing? well everything seems to be getting progressively more amazing, anime is not any different

i dont think waiting is a big deal either, a weekly release schedule is preferable in my opinion

sure, they didnt have to wait weekly to watch the series that you listed ... but they are waiting weekly to watch current series, so what point are you trying to make exactly?
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Sorry, don't agree.

Majority of old anime (and manga) is classic for a reason - and it is not because it is old.

Most new anime do have moe, or characterization based on cuteness, or are just poor copies of better storylines from older series (among many other things).

Yes: there are good modern series. But compared to how many brilliant gems there are of anime/manga past, the new series fail to deliver.


1. Find a list of anime by year. Anime-Planet has a good one.
2. Pick a year that you consider to be old. I picked the year I was born.
3. Count the number of shows that can reasonably be considered classic.
4. Compare that to the number of shows that came out that year.

I notice that the majority of old anime is not classic, but rather forgotten. Of all the anime that came out that year, I've watched one movie, and that's it. From what I understand, that movie is considered to be a classic. It was also pretty average in terms of enjoyment.

Now check out a more recent year, like 2012. I've found that the total list of anime is longer, I recognize a lot more of them, I've watched quite a few of them, and I enjoyed a good handful. I'd speculate that the reason people think that the majority of old anime is classic is because people only ever talk about the classics.

There is a ton of old trash out there just waiting to be discovered.
Posted 8/8/13

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puellapeanut wrote:



Sorry, don't agree.

Majority of old anime (and manga) is classic for a reason - and it is not because it is old.

Most new anime do have moe, or characterization based on cuteness, or are just poor copies of better storylines from older series (among many other things).

Yes: there are good modern series. But compared to how many brilliant gems there are of anime/manga past, the new series fail to deliver.


1. Find a list of anime by year. Anime-Planet has a good one.
2. Pick a year that you consider to be old. I picked the year I was born.
3. Count the number of shows that can reasonably be considered classic.
4. Compare that to the number of shows that came out that year.

I notice that the majority of old anime is not classic, but rather forgotten. Of all the anime that came out that year, I've watched one movie, and that's it. From what I understand, that movie is considered to be a classic. It was also pretty average in terms of enjoyment.

Now check out a more recent year, like 2012. I've found that the total list of anime is longer, I recognize a lot more of them, I've watched quite a few of them, and I enjoyed a good handful. I'd speculate that the reason people think that the majority of old anime is classic is because people only ever talk about the classics.

There is a ton of old trash out there just waiting to be discovered.


Now, I'm not saying that every old anime is amazing, or classic. But compared to the more modern animes coming out, older anime had far more classics/better stories/ characters, than newer animes by a long shot (in my personal opinion).

Same with old movies. Not all old movies are brilliant, but compared to the newer ones, far more are.

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Any new generation of anime viewers will be lucky with current modern legal streaming and wide availability of dual format dvds and a much lower occurrence of parody or rewritten dubs. As far as the anime.... some new stuff is awesome but I have a lot more favorites from the 90s than the new stuff.

At least they won't pay huge prices for VHS and accidentally buy some from the same series in English dubbed and some in English subtitled. (Some older anime I bought have ended this way like dual! parallel trouble adventure. Before I bought the dvds I have eps 1-7 in Japanese audio and eps 8-14 in English audio.
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NOT LUCKY ENOUGH TO
HAVE WITNESSED THE ENDLESS EIGHT


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Posted 8/8/13

puellapeanut wrote:


staphen wrote:


puellapeanut wrote:



Sorry, don't agree.

Majority of old anime (and manga) is classic for a reason - and it is not because it is old.

Most new anime do have moe, or characterization based on cuteness, or are just poor copies of better storylines from older series (among many other things).

Yes: there are good modern series. But compared to how many brilliant gems there are of anime/manga past, the new series fail to deliver.


1. Find a list of anime by year. Anime-Planet has a good one.
2. Pick a year that you consider to be old. I picked the year I was born.
3. Count the number of shows that can reasonably be considered classic.
4. Compare that to the number of shows that came out that year.

I notice that the majority of old anime is not classic, but rather forgotten. Of all the anime that came out that year, I've watched one movie, and that's it. From what I understand, that movie is considered to be a classic. It was also pretty average in terms of enjoyment.

Now check out a more recent year, like 2012. I've found that the total list of anime is longer, I recognize a lot more of them, I've watched quite a few of them, and I enjoyed a good handful. I'd speculate that the reason people think that the majority of old anime is classic is because people only ever talk about the classics.

There is a ton of old trash out there just waiting to be discovered.


Now, I'm not saying that every old anime is amazing, or classic. But compared to the more modern animes coming out, older anime had far more classics/better stories/ characters, than newer animes by a long shot (in my personal opinion).

Same with old movies. Not all old movies are brilliant, but compared to the newer ones, far more are.



On that note, I also believe that the total number of "old anime series" largely outweighs the total number of "new anime series" by almost any definition. It's hard to pick a cut-off point, but I would personally consider everything before the year 2000 to be definitively old. That leaves approximately 13 years of new anime versus greater than 40 years of old anime. Unless the average number of classics released per year increased by at least threefold between the years 2000 and 2013, then there would naturally be more old classics than new ones.
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so when we are talking aobut the great classics with amazing story lines dragon ball z counts too right? (since we are closing our eyes to every thing good that comes out these days and generalizing with only what isnt amazing)
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Hmm...I started anime only two years ago. It's getting better every year.
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Well atleast we're all living in the time after the transition to HD.
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Posted 8/8/13

puellapeanut wrote:

Majority of old anime (and manga) is classic for a reason - and it is not because it is old.


Actually, the majority of old anime was crap and has fallen out of public memory. The majority of old anime that has been remembered are the well regarded and loved stories, or stuff that was so terrible it's literally unforgettable.
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Posted 8/8/13

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It really isn't any different now than it was 20 years ago or even further. A lot of 80's anime was full of fanservice moments. Evangelion popularised the phrase itself quite heavily and promoted the idea of fanservice for the sake of it in the mid 90's.


Eva didn't really "promote" fan service, so much as mock the shows that used it as a selling point, and the fans that ate it up without thinking. Unfortunately, Anno overestimated viewer's intelligence, and most people just didn't get it.
Posted 8/8/13

eyeofpain wrote:


puellapeanut wrote:

Majority of old anime (and manga) is classic for a reason - and it is not because it is old.


Actually, the majority of old anime was crap and has fallen out of public memory. The majority of old anime that has been remembered are the well regarded and loved stories, or stuff that was so terrible it's literally unforgettable.


Well, in Japan (and some Western countries) older anime is still remembered and beloved. A lot of them are. Stuff like Candy Candy for example.

I personally do not agree to what you've said, but to each their own.
Posted 8/8/13 , edited 8/8/13


Again, I guess this is personal opinion but even if I took one year of old anime and compared it to one year of new anime - I'd find more to love in the older series.

From many of the new animes being churned out, I cannot help but feel that something is missing from them. Either its the characters, the charm, the characterization, story...But something is missing from these new series. Something is lacking in many of them.

I'm not even old by any means, but I do feel this way.

But then again, that's just how I feel.
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