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Posted 12/29/13 , edited 12/29/13

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not really... I mean if you think about it, no one is really completely immoral. so people doing things which are obviously "evil" might be doing the right thing in their eyes. No one is the villain in their story. i guess evil people just think in a more "the ends justify the means" kind of way. perfect example: death note. who was the good guy and who was the bad guy? the author leaves it up to you. if you think that as long as you have a happy ending, you can do whatever it takes then light is the good guy. if you think that no matter what your justification is, you shouldn't commit immoral acts, L is the good guy. and so in summary, there really is no evil in my opinion, just different views.


If you choose one of them to be the good guy, then the other has to be the evil guy don't you think?

If you mean there is no "pure evil" or "pure good" but rather good hidden within evil or evil hidden within good, then I guess I can see where you're coming from.
Posted 12/29/13
“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.”
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Posted 12/29/13

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Kaneyama wrote:

not really... I mean if you think about it, no one is really completely immoral. so people doing things which are obviously "evil" might be doing the right thing in their eyes. No one is the villain in their story. i guess evil people just think in a more "the ends justify the means" kind of way. perfect example: death note. who was the good guy and who was the bad guy? the author leaves it up to you. if you think that as long as you have a happy ending, you can do whatever it takes then light is the good guy. if you think that no matter what your justification is, you shouldn't commit immoral acts, L is the good guy. and so in summary, there really is no evil in my opinion, just different views.


If you choose one of them to be the good guy, then the other has to be the evil guy don't you think?

If you mean there is no "pure evil" or "pure good" but rather good hidden within evil or evil hidden within good, then I guess I can see where you're coming from.


Exactly. how can someone be completely 100% good? There will always be times where you have to choose between a good outcome with bad ways to reach it and a bad outcome because you only use good methods to reach it. 99% of the time the person will decide that the sacrifice is worth it and choose the good outcome. For example, could you kill two innocent people if it saved 100? or would you choose to do nothing and let the 100 people die? No matter which one you choose there will be people dying so why not choose the "evil" path and kill the two people? No one would know why you had to kill the two people. they'd think that you just did it for pleasure so it seems "evil" to them.
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There's no good or evil only choices and consequences, just look at Osama he was once part of one of the richest families in the world... And look where his choices and consequences took him, into a world of hate, sorrow and death. Just think about it for a second, at how many loved once he was forced to sacrifice for his hellhole of world that he believed he would be avail to create.

Just to clarify I'm not supporting that asshat of person or life style, but what I'm saying is that there's no good or evil only choices and consequences in his case he sacrificed his life, loved once and future for a world that could never be!
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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

There's no good or evil only choices and consequences, just look at Osama he was once part of one of the richest families in the world... And look where his choices and consequences took him, into a world of hate, sorrow and death. Just think about it for a second, at how many loved once he was forced to sacrifice for his hellhole of world that he believed he would be avail to create.

Just to clarify I'm not supporting that asshat of person or life style, but what I'm saying is that there's no good or evil only choices and consequences in his case he sacrificed his life, loved once and future for a world that could never be!



But isn't it our perceptions of what is good and what is evil a major influence in making these choices?
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Posted 12/29/13

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Then to clarify, what you're saying there is no "pure evil" or "pure good" but rather good hidden within evil or evil hidden within good right? Not that there is no evil?
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“There is no inherent good and evil in the world those labels are just artificial constructs. - Right and Wrong are determined by the people who hold positions of authority, that's the way it's always been so how then can anyone know this truth you speak of? The world is one big moral 'grey area' it just makes you feel safer to believe that it can be carefully categorised into good and bad. That's not actually how it works" - Dr. Franken Stein (soul eater)
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Evil most definitely exists.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/evil/evilhome.html

Evil is a lack; See above link for explanation.
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Posted 1/5/14
Evil has been described as an absence of the presence of good, however what people perceive to be 'good' varies and is rather complex and there is no real proof of this 'good'. One could say that the Evil/Good debate is the same as the right/wrong debate, which it basically is. Is it wrong to do something evil for the benefit of the greater good? Moral based questions will always be there and people will always debate and argument over them.
Although pretty basic this is a good read http://www.socraticmethod.net/socratic_essay_nature_of_human_evil.htm
Posted 1/6/14
With all the serial killers walking the earth freely .. yes, of course.
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Evil exists alright, and it can be downright scary, especially when performed under the guise of being "good".
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"The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist" - Charles Baudelaire
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I believe that "evil" and "good" are just two words that are used differently with some people. Like say a gang beat up a man because he was going to say something to the police about what the gang is doing. The gang would think that was good that they beat him up so now he wont talk, but the other way around average people would be like that was an evil thing to do. So in my definition good and evil are just two words that should not be real words. Anyone can say that was good or evil, but in order to say that is good or evil there needs to be reason first.
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Posted 2/4/14
yes they are called vegetarians I got my eye on you you kell eating sobs
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Of course there is EVIL. Ever heard about THE HOLOCAUST?? Now, THAT IS PURE EVIL!
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