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Post Reply At what point are we no longer "human."
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Posted 8/10/13

jonwroblew wrote:

When we can no longer ask this question and give it serious though.


So are people that were born vegetables or became such from a severe accident not considered human? Not being able to move, respond, or show emotions. And if born as a vegetable the person can't truly think because it hasn't learned language, the basis of being able to think outside of instict.
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Being human or not doesn't really matter, because all that matters is the person and stuff.
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Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13
You make a good point. I would say that that would apply to more of society as a collective whole. When it can no longer ask that question, regardless of our genetic makeup, because it knows the condition it lives in takes the human factor out of living. The human factor being emotional responses to something in the environment, another human, natural disaster, ect, and no longer find that asking if we are human is a relavant question because it really never can lead to a satisfying answer.
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My idea of a soul is that the concept of the human mind in relation to cognitive thought, and the idea of a soul lies within the mind itself. Not the energy that fuels it. The energies are all the same. So, in theory, our souls are organic. They decay as our physical bodies do. I believe it is the mind, the consciousness and awareness which defines a human. I absolutely agree with jonwroblew.
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I think scientists will find a way to classify genetic hybrids and bioroids...science fictions writers already have. A better question is "what counts as a person"? Not too long ago many humans were not thought of as persons, or as lesser persons, and even now humans who have not developed to a certain point are not legally persons in many places.
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I had thought about this when I was watching Man of Steel (if you haven't seen it I'll try not to spoil it) . But I was thinking that if we started altering DNA in the womb and eventually everyone uses this process to have children will this new super race with enhanced capabilities and no birth defects still be looked at as humans by the 'natural-born'. If I had a younger brother born this way and he could jump twice as high as me and scored a perfect score on every standardized test given to humans with little to no effort how would I feel about that? Would I still see him as my brother and not some different type of species?

IDK, maybe this might derail the thread but I bring it up because I think there is a possibility we will start seeing something like this before we have the technological prowess and processing power to accurately mimic a human brain.

Gattaca and Appleseed are movies that cover this stuff..
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Posted 8/19/13

MopZ wrote:

Being human or not doesn't really matter, because all that matters is the person and stuff.


This.

Personally, I am stoked about transhumanism. I hope I get to experience it.
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Posted 8/19/13
When we stopped caring
Posted 8/23/13
when we evolve ......... XD again
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Posted 8/26/13
We cease being human when we give up the abilities to feel and to put our own perspectives into sentient thoughts.
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19 / M / Elrios
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Posted 8/27/13
Hermits were the ones who surpassed Humanity.
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I don't agree with the idea that the test for humanity is empathy and the ability to feel. I'm pretty sure non-human animals can perceive the emotions of others as well as feel. The empathy and the feelings may not be as complex, but they exist. So empathy and feelings seems to arbitrary for a test of humanity. Not to mention there are plenty of humans who have problems with empathy (for some, arguably little to none) and feelings/emotions.

The better test of humanity would involve the scientific biology of the brain or brain stem.

But really, we should not be caring about whether something is human so much as the content of their character. Considering how much humans act badly towards each other, I don't think being -human- is as great as some posts in this thread make it out to be. So I have to agree with MopZ and Syndicaidramon.

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Physically speaking, you're human and always human unless you're born a different species.

Philosophically speaking, well, I don't feel like writing 10 paragraphs of philosophical nonsense so I'll just say that you're human until you deviate far enough from human nature.
Posted 10/22/13 , edited 10/22/13
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time-experience/


If once thought of as human, you are human as long as time exists.

About robots, it's an imitation of a human. So, were it might come naturally for a human to learn or do things a robot will have no way a need to come to naturally learn or do things.

However, you can argue that humans do not naurally learn to do things because well, they can very well also be puppets on a string and doing things according to their design.

If in the future robots are thought of as humans then so be it.

All things that feel are set apart by the knowledge of stability, are humans unstable? Yes, then the definition of a human is not constant.
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Posted 10/22/13 , edited 10/22/13
If there will ever be a possibility of transferring my conscious into an machine, I would I mean they have more probability of surviving if anything happened, and we would get rid of that stupid Oxygen problem we have Of course I wouldn't want to implanted into a computer where I had no control of anything... That would just be scary -.- I would want a robot body that would look like a human one, or something that is just as easy to move in. Beside the point, Machines are way superior to our organic bodies, if you were a machine you could store information more easily than a brain, of course we are not even close to get a Hard drive that would have the same capability as the brain does which is 2.5 PetaBytes *about 1 million GigaBytes* but once we get to that mark we can get even more.

Well basically to what the question is.. I don't care whether I'm a human or not, as long as I have my conscious, I'm fine by just being me, but I think being something other than organic material would be much better on the evolution scale, I mean I don't see how we as humans would get that much better at being a superior evolution, of course I can't know the future, but still, waiting for a few million years for that to change, I don't want to -.-
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