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USA: The Yankee Empire
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Posted 1/27/08 , edited 4/21/08
The United States is into imperialism, and it started a bit before WW1. We were learning about it in History. We wanted Puerto Rico..we took it. We wanted the Philipines...we took that. We really wanted Hawaii, and we made threats towards their queen, and took that. We had a whole war just so we could have Texas, and other southern states. Even though our imperialism has slown down considerably , given the chance Im sure the U.S. would take it to get some more land.

Remember the Open Door Policy...we want China......lol.

I have a feeling that we wont be over run...not for a long time. And that is because we are military freaks, as long as the gov't keeps sizing up our military no one can beat us. Im glad, too.

You might say its wrong, but when its your country you would want to be the most powerful, and we seized every chance we could get. If the U.S. is going to be a jerk, we better damn well have the power to back that talk up.

Vote for Obama!...or Clinton! Either one.
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American imperialism started with the birth of the nation surely. Remember the desire for Canada? 1812 was the 2nd attempt (the 1st was diiscarded after an appeal the french-canadian didn't care for, to join the 13 states).
Posted 1/27/08 , edited 4/21/08
Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

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I doubt it. The US is falling behind China and other asian countries. The dollar is really low and we have less support and respect in the world. We only liek to think we're the best, when in reality we are falling behind
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MidnightZorya wrote:

Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

Flo~


please tell me the relation between 9/11 and Iraq. There is none. The perpetrators were Saudis. Bin Laden is a Saudi. Bin Laden is based in afghanistan. Saddam and Bin Laden hate each other so why would saddam help bin laden? he wouldn't and didnt.


Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Then he changed the pre cursor to human rights. which is crap because under US occupation not much has changed hell its even worse.

Why didnt Bush Sr? go in 1991? Cause he couldnt gas the Kurds off of there lands to get their oil. So he waited till saddam did it and then let his son go in later.

where is your proof for going to Iraq? Oh thats right they are all lies.


Its the oil stupid.
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I heard the US invaded Iraq just before they were to start expoting oil for euros. If nations did that the extra gurantee of the dollar would not exists anymore, the US economy would take a major hit to say the least, and more importantly: oil-exporting nations like my own (Norway) would make lotsandlotsandlots of money. How come braindead people get to control politics, even I can see that it would be better. Oil for euros. An expanding market, a solid currency, plenty of money to be made. Let the European Union be the next empire.
Posted 1/27/08 , edited 4/21/08

liwancito wrote:

This thread is about USA as empire

In my perspective..i think its this is true...USA has become the most powerful country [[better say political organization]] in the world..so they think they can rule the world [[what is so true]]..coz they can manipulate the economy of any country or influence the politic of any country [[like when they want to change Cuba]]...or simply they take over a country through their power...[[Irak's case]]...using a stupid pretexte just to take over of what they need....so im sure in few years..maybe 5 or 6...USA will become an empire..the Yankee empire...

so what r ur opinions??


People who live on the west coast of the USA absolutely hate being called Yankees.
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While the United States isnt the the richest country we are the most powerful. You can look this up any where and see this.

America will always have allies because if someone decides they want to attack Britain, and Britain cut off ties the U.S. who is going to save Britain....France..Germany....no.

The United States has the best army, because like I said before we are military freaks. We will always give money to our military because we are paranoid, and other nations know how strong we are so they become our allies because they know we will step in if something gets too bad. So saying we dont have support is wrong.

Respect isnt in politics so it doesnt matter who respects who. Sad but true.

We have 27 nations underneath our belt. All of those nations are some of the more powerful ones. We will step in because we are making money off of everyone, just like they are making money off of us. Thats just how it is.

Like I said at the begining...look it up if you want to. America is the most powerful country in this day in age.
Posted 1/27/08 , edited 4/21/08

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MidnightZorya wrote:

Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

Flo~


please tell me the relation between 9/11 and Iraq. There is none. The perpetrators were Saudis. Bin Laden is a Saudi. Bin Laden is based in afghanistan. Saddam and Bin Laden hate each other so why would saddam help bin laden? he wouldn't and didnt.


Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Then he changed the pre cursor to human rights. which is crap because under US occupation not much has changed hell its even worse.

Why didnt Bush Sr? go in 1991? Cause he couldnt gas the Kurds off of there lands to get their oil. So he waited till saddam did it and then let his son go in later.

where is your proof for going to Iraq? Oh thats right they are all lies.


Its the oil stupid.


Eh, I don't know why you are attacking me. I didn't say that the 9/11 was the purpose to go to Iraq....nor that the oil is...I was referring to some here who did, and I referred to the OP...who is obviously thinking like that.
I didn't say that I have proofs. Since I am not aware of the secret political backgrounds, I won't start to speculate about things I am not sure, and which I can't proof.
You should next time read it thoroughly before starting to attack me. I didn't even give my opinion on that.

Yes, it might be the oil, but I can't agree with it 100% since nobody brought up any persuasive facts or proofs about that. Your argumentations are biased bullshit with no proof or fact as a basis. Don't come on me with lame attacks like this.

And calling me stupid won't change the fact that you are an idiot who is apparently unable to read my post, and get it's meaning.

Flo~



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Most powerful military. We havent been beat yet.

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Lets be honest here. Numbers matter little in total war these days. If there every is such a war nukes will end it for all of us. Stop arguing that China could take the USA. Nuclear war makes the size of your forces basically irrelevant.
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YouAreDumb wrote:

Lets be honest here. Numbers matter little in total war these days. If there every is such a war nukes will end it for all of us. Stop arguing that China could take the USA. Nuclear war makes the size of your forces basically irrelevant.


Oh shit...don't mention the nuclear wars....damn...this pisses me off...
This will involve everyone, even the neutral countries....since this has such a waste effect on the world...
But if we compare China and the USA on the economical basis, then China will soon overgrow USA, of course on the economical side.

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MidnightZorya wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:

Lets be honest here. Numbers matter little in total war these days. If there every is such a war nukes will end it for all of us. Stop arguing that China could take the USA. Nuclear war makes the size of your forces basically irrelevant.


Oh shit...don't mention the nuclear wars....damn...this pisses me off...
This will involve everyone, even the neutral countries....since this has such a waste effect on the world...
But if we compare China and the USA on the economical basis, then China will soon overgrow USA, of course on the economical side.

Flo~

The USAs economy is already in the shitter

Posted 1/27/08 , edited 4/21/08

YouAreDumb wrote:


MidnightZorya wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:

Lets be honest here. Numbers matter little in total war these days. If there every is such a war nukes will end it for all of us. Stop arguing that China could take the USA. Nuclear war makes the size of your forces basically irrelevant.


Oh shit...don't mention the nuclear wars....damn...this pisses me off...
This will involve everyone, even the neutral countries....since this has such a waste effect on the world...
But if we compare China and the USA on the economical basis, then China will soon overgrow USA, of course on the economical side.

Flo~

The USAs economy is already in the shitter



I guess so...who will be the next ruler?....China or Russia? or is it perhaps some other country?
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MidnightZorya wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:

Lets be honest here. Numbers matter little in total war these days. If there every is such a war nukes will end it for all of us. Stop arguing that China could take the USA. Nuclear war makes the size of your forces basically irrelevant.


Oh shit...don't mention the nuclear wars....damn...this pisses me off...
This will involve everyone, even the neutral countries....since this has such a waste effect on the world...
But if we compare China and the USA on the economical basis, then China will soon overgrow USA, of course on the economical side.

Flo~


You cant know that China will have a better economy than the United States. There are too many factors that might change your reasoning...like
sometimes China can be too much into nationalism that it is almost scary, which could lead to it starting wars with other countries to prove itself, which would lead to it ecomonically failing. Also since China is a communist country nothing is ever sure, because that type of gov't is fragile, and all it takes is one rebellious human being, and China's enconomy will go down the drain. China is politically instable, and you need a strong gov't to prosper in other areas such as economic growth.
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