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Posted 1/28/08 , edited 4/21/08
YANKEE COUNTRY!?! hell no bitches! im in the south!
RISE TO CONFEDERACY! THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN! YEEEHAAA!!!
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just SUX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............better they mind they own bussiness.......instead of causing trouble in other countries 4 their own benefit.......
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Posted 1/28/08 , edited 4/21/08

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Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

Flo~


please tell me the relation between 9/11 and Iraq. There is none. The perpetrators were Saudis. Bin Laden is a Saudi. Bin Laden is based in afghanistan. Saddam and Bin Laden hate each other so why would saddam help bin laden? he wouldn't and didnt.


Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Then he changed the pre cursor to human rights. which is crap because under US occupation not much has changed hell its even worse.

Why didnt Bush Sr? go in 1991? Cause he couldnt gas the Kurds off of there lands to get their oil. So he waited till saddam did it and then let his son go in later.

where is your proof for going to Iraq? Oh thats right they are all lies.


Its the oil stupid.


that's a very, very good point you made there, OptimusGatts

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I'd say China is more powerful right now. If the USA tried anything, they'd get bitch slapped, but when China does something, they get away with it.
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Posted 1/28/08 , edited 4/21/08

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OptimusGatts wrote:


MidnightZorya wrote:

Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

Flo~


please tell me the relation between 9/11 and Iraq. There is none. The perpetrators were Saudis. Bin Laden is a Saudi. Bin Laden is based in afghanistan. Saddam and Bin Laden hate each other so why would saddam help bin laden? he wouldn't and didnt.


Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Then he changed the pre cursor to human rights. which is crap because under US occupation not much has changed hell its even worse.

Why didnt Bush Sr? go in 1991? Cause he couldnt gas the Kurds off of there lands to get their oil. So he waited till saddam did it and then let his son go in later.

where is your proof for going to Iraq? Oh thats right they are all lies.


Its the oil stupid.


your an idiot. do you not remeber Bushs State of the Union Address following the terrosit attack? He swore to hunt down and eliminate any and all terrosrits and countries harboring terrorism. IRAQ HARBORED TERRORISM. People seem to forget that they were behind him when he said it but after Iraq every just kinda pussed out. Oh i dont want to be at war. Fuck you people you sit in your nice homes and enjoy your freedoms while others fight. What gives you the right to bitch about what the troops are doing when you cant even gett off your own couch?




1. Iraq harboring terrorists none of the terrorists were iraqis and still today most of the terrorists aernt iraqis.

2. the iraq "war" isnt sanctioned by the UN, its a coalition of the willing led by the US and Britain and a bunch of other countries who didnt want the same backlash that france got (remember freedom fries and freedom toast?). the US just strong arms other countries into doing stuff. a lot of countries just went to get some good will, like iceland (1 troop) and phillipines (80 troops). The world was behind him to go to afghanistan and get Osama, they knew he was abusing it to go Iraq.

the countries that left didn't "pussy out" they just realised that the situation isnt containable and that Iraq is just another vietnam. Contrary to what you believe there is no war in Iraq, its an occupation/insurgency. It will never stop. The only reason the US hasnt pulled out yet is because it would look like the terrorists won.

3. I love the troops. i did 3 years in the canadian forces. I got out cause i wanted to go to school and I did. I got buddies overseas right now and working up to go over overseas. Ive seen the families cry when buddy gets home without his leg and his casket in a flag. So dont you sit there and tell me about sitting on my couch. At no point in time have i ever said there should never be war. At no point in time did I ever disrespect the troops.

Never will I smash the troops. What i will shit on is an inept and corrupt leadership.

in conclusion. You are the stupid. shut your pie hole.


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MidnightZorya wrote:


OptimusGatts wrote:


MidnightZorya wrote:


OptimusGatts wrote:


MidnightZorya wrote:


OptimusGatts wrote:


MidnightZorya wrote:

Sorry, but this is stupid. I don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. And now this is just prejudice. Since you don't know the political backgrounds. You are only speculating, but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil?...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing.

Flo~


please tell me the relation between 9/11 and Iraq. There is none. The perpetrators were Saudis. Bin Laden is a Saudi. Bin Laden is based in afghanistan. Saddam and Bin Laden hate each other so why would saddam help bin laden? he wouldn't and didnt.


Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Then he changed the pre cursor to human rights. which is crap because under US occupation not much has changed hell its even worse.

Why didnt Bush Sr? go in 1991? Cause he couldnt gas the Kurds off of there lands to get their oil. So he waited till saddam did it and then let his son go in later.

where is your proof for going to Iraq? Oh thats right they are all lies.


Its the oil stupid.


Eh, I don't know why you are attacking me. I didn't say that the 9/11 was the purpose to go to Iraq....nor that the oil is...I was referring to some here who did, and I referred to the OP...who is obviously thinking like that.
I didn't say that I have proofs. Since I am not aware of the secret political backgrounds, I won't start to speculate about things I am not sure, and which I can't proof.
You should next time read it thoroughly before starting to attack me. I didn't even give my opinion on that.

Yes, it might be the oil, but I can't agree with it 100% since nobody brought up any persuasive facts or proofs about that. Your argumentations are biased bullshit with no proof or fact as a basis. Don't come on me with lame attacks like this.

And calling me stupid won't change the fact that you are an idiot who is apparently unable to read my post, and get it's meaning.

Flo~





Sorry, but this is stupid. you call this debate stupid don't think that the USA is that strong anymore. you think that the most technologically advanced military in the world with spending equivalent to the next 8 biggest spenders in NATO put together isnt "that strong anymore" And now this is just prejudice. offering no facts of your own you call prejudice Since you don't know the political backgrounds. analize the situation, doesnt take a genius You are only speculating,again, you are speculalting but do you have a proof that the USA used the 9/11 just to start a war in Iraq and get the oil? this is the line which prompted my post to give you reasons ...please....some proofs are required before you are blabbering nonsense that is based on nothing. again discrediting without your own contradicting research



Eh, I don't know why you are attacking me. maybe stupid was harsh I didn't say that the 9/11 was the purpose to go to Iraq....nor that the oil is...I was referring to some here who did, and I referred to the OP...who is obviously thinking like that.
I didn't say that I have proofs. Since I am not aware of the secret political backgrounds, I won't start to speculate about things I am not sure, and which I can't proof.
You should next time read it thoroughly before starting to attack me. I didn't even give my opinion on that. so you dont give an opinion but discredit someones opinion, which can give the impression that you are taking an adverse stance

Yes, it might be the oil, but I can't agree with it 100% since nobody brought up any persuasive facts or proofs about that. Your argumentations are biased bullshit with no proof or fact as a basis. Don't come on me with lame attacks like this. None of my arguments are biased bullshit, they are all facts. Look them up. The only speculative comment was George Bush Seniors decision to leave Saddam in power to gas the kurds. I typed my post up quickly and left some steps out but its enough proof, yes, proof look it up, to make a connection between 9/11 as a precursor to the war on terror, Afghanistan and Iraq and the vast oil resources contained in that country.

And calling me stupid won't change the fact that you are an idiot who is apparently unable to read my post, and get it's meaning.
calling me an idiot will not change the fact you meant to discredit someones opinion, I defended it and that you offered none and then tried to discredit my facts and 1 speculation with name calling.



Okay, let's analyse this situation now.hmm..When I said this is stupid, I wasn't referring to the topic.
You want my opinion? Well, I won't make any researches to proof my thoughts, that's also why I didn't express my opinion here. All I was asking the people that say that they think that it was all due to the oil to give me some proof. Since I am not from America I hoped someone from America could give me more information about this. Okay, the way I typed it might have had a bad impression...

Here is my opinion: Yes, I think you are definitely right, it was the oil that had happen to be the main unofficial purpose of why the USA went to Iraq. But please don't think that only the USA was after the oil..(.Europe secretly too, just they wont admit that.). The USA was merely the first one who started to act. Europe would have done something about this sooner or later if the USA wouldn't have interfered first. But to emphasise it, this is only my opinion and it might be that my views are influenced by the media somehow, though I don't watch tv anymore....

Anyways, I am too lazy to look this facts up. And I thank you for the vulgar end, which you obviously edited in the last second before I answered.
And I won't argue with you on that topic, since I am not enough informed about it to insert my two cents. All I wanted was to see some facts based on reliable ressources. If that sounds like an attack then it must have been one.




It was a mod edit. im glad you saw it though and you're very welcome.


Oh yeah, I am glad too. Now at least I can tell for sure at what kind of smutty level you are.

PS: I forgot to say, when I said that the USA ain't that strong anymore, I thought that it was clear that I wasn't referring to the military force, but to the economical situation. Now really, can't you use logic at least for a bit?


it would have been clear if you had added the word economically. but thanks for bringing that up because it only goes to further my point that

1. You cant express your opinions clearly and then twist them after the fact.

2. That nothing gets the economy going like a good war for oil.

Also i apologize for my comment on your menstration. It was more gross than smutty and uncalled for. but you are still stupid.

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here is the reason why alot of people hate USA and why US is losing its power ---> Bush~
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how many sides are there on a triangle?

This is a forum mod, don't spam you aren't funny, and when I delete your posts you don't get any points for it either.
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THE UNITED STATES OF EVERYTHING that won`t happen. All the other country won`t let the US take over their homeland.☻
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usa has been an empire for over a hundred years now. ever since we took over the philipines anexed hawaii and took over the western hemisphere i think the usa has been an empire. sure its had depressions and panics and war, but every empire has. and one day it will fall or change. the way things are now i think the people will/should call for change. new england seems to want to but the rest of the country i'm not so sure about. hey and if you want to talk about the crude oil panic there was a sucsessfull electric car in the 80's in california but it got impounded b/c of a false 'problem' the only problem is that it was sucsessful and would have replaced the oil fueled cars.
honestly i wish i was immortal so i could see what was going to happen...
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[edit] holy **** i didn't notice how much i typed. looks like one big block of text >.>

if you look at the total value of goods and services provided by the united states (aka GDP), it is estimated at approximately $13.2 trillion dollars yearly. in comparison, china is at only $2.9 trillion yearly. In other words, china is about 20% the size of the united states economy. Therefore, it is estimated that it will take at least a decade or two for china to match up with the united states economy wise. heck, the entire 27 nation European union barely beats the economy of the united states with 14 trillion. Japan, South Korea, and China combined are barely 60% of the united states economy. until China becomes a big economy, the united states will be the main economic power in the world.

also, the united states economy accounts for about 27% of the entire world economy. In comparison, china is about 5% of the world economy. in other words, the recession in the united states will have a huge impact on the ENTIRE world economy. If you haven't noticed, stock markets around the world have lost hundreds of millions of dollars because of an AMERICAN recession in the past few months. for all of you that are laughing at the US recession, it is having a direct impact on your own countries as well.

Also, as previously pointed out, the united states is the most technologically advanced nation on earth (more that japan ; yes i know, it's shocking, i was shocked too). Because of this, the USA has the most advanced and largest military on earth. Furthermore, the US military spans almost all the continents on earth.

At the moment, America is the most powerful nation on earth in terms of economy and military. Because of the huge military, economy, etc, the USA has a huge influence on the world. in a sense, America ALREADY is an empire because it is the dominant force that can influence and control almost all other nations.

Although, i have to admit, the united states does have its share of problems. it has a huge debt, the dollar is losing value, and other such problems, such as Bush . Bush has done some stuff that are beyond stupid.

i'm not trying to bash anyone or anything. im only stating the facts. At the moment America is close to, if not already, being an empire. However, im also positive America won't be the superpower on earth forever. eventually, another nation will equal the United States. i could only hope that there won't be another cold war.
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Looking at economic trends, its most likely China or India that will become the next superpower. Since they have a huge population, growing affluence, and cheap-ass labor. Developed countries' populations are now in decline and it is only a matter of time til' all the baby boomers retire. And I doubt the States will ever be an 'empire', much less called 'yankee', unless their intention is to insult themselves. There is no need for an emperor since its already becoming a damn plutocracy.
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Posted 1/28/08 , edited 4/21/08

noodles1631 wrote:


Do0mAid wrote:

This is a forum mod, don't spam you aren't funny, and when I delete your posts you don't get any points for it either.


lol i don't post to get points, it aint spam, my purpose was that i have seen the video about some yankes being asked some stupid questions i.e.

how many sides does a triangle have?

and them to reply 4??

how can they have a empire when some of them can't even answer a simple question like that?

ps. i might not be funny but i aint supid, i can see you are a moderator.



Not some! Little! Due to the literacy that many prominent individuals that are trying to improve, the stupidity you are talking about will be soon diminished. Uneducated, unable, and uninterested Americans were interviewed thus allowing them to blatantly expose such a biased mockery. So please, be thoughtful and be reasonable. Think of what is the real truth and what is not. Thank you.

P.S. I am classified in the "male" species.
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New York here : ). U.S. History is actually my college major. Umm I would have to say that the U.S. isnt an Empire, but is a great nation and with that said it is a very annoying nation was well. We are constantly in other nations business, because ever since Theodore Roosevelt we have felt the need to "police the world", and for what the more we do 'police' the more nations hate/disapprove of us. Our presidents as of recent havent been that great (::cough bush cough::). We have been fighting a war that seems pointless now (Respect for the fighters, and RIP for the fallen on both sides). Our debt is over 6 trillion dollars and getting larger. I am stating to wondering about the election up ahead, cause it is the same case in all historical instances, when something bad happens to a nation the first person blamed for its problems is the leader of the nation itself, when in fact it is usually the people who are to blame. I dont think the U.S. will become a Empire. We have power but I dont think the people themselves would allow an Empire to form. Then again I could be completely wrong...
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THE UNITED STATES OF EVERYTHING that won`t happen. All the other country won`t let the US take over their homeland.☻


too late buddy. the plan is already in action

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

look at the names who wrote it:
Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett , Jeb Bush,

Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky , Steve Forbes,

Aaron Friedberg , Francis Fukuyama , Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle,

Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz,

Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen,

Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz/

sound familiar? they should. at least for americans.


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