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Why Are Homophobes Obsessed with Gay Men But Ignore Lesbians?
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Mayo2111 wrote:
I think I may go the rest of my life wondering why people are so against letting gays and lesbians marry. I honestly do not see what the big deal is.


Maybe if too many same-sex couples get married it renders all hetero marriages obsolete?
I think it's just a bunch of otherwise unremarkable people clinging to their special rights and feelings of entitlement.
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mhibicke wrote:


Mayo2111 wrote:
I think I may go the rest of my life wondering why people are so against letting gays and lesbians marry. I honestly do not see what the big deal is.


Maybe if too many same-sex couples get married it renders all hetero marriages obsolete?
I think it's just a bunch of otherwise unremarkable people clinging to their special rights and feelings of entitlement.


As a union through a religious institution, marriage is usually defined as a union to be between a man and a woman and thus gay marriage is 'wrong' and not true marriage. As a legal institution however, (in the USA) religious reasons against marriage shouldn't even count because of the countrie's attempted 'separation of church and state'. At the very least, a union between any two genders of people should be allowed if marriage is legally defined as being between a man and a woman, at which point the legal definition would need to be changed as well as various rights laws.

Really disappointing to see all websites and 'informationals' dedicated to the hate and persecution of gay people and gay marriage. Sure you can disagree with ideas, but don't spread negativity and harm onto those you don't even know!
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chrome_mist wrote:


Because people are idiots, excluding me and the whole TAG group.





kamosuzo wrote:

Hmm... I wonder...

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

Just sayin'.

EDIT:

It does kind of explain stuff like this:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/08/worlds-most-homoerotic-homophobes-are-now-mounting-giant-pole-tiny-pink-shorts/67871/




OMG. Expose them closet gays!






I really want to know where the crown gif is from. That woman is so cute. Her hair is so black and her crown is so bling <3



Pretty sure it's Katy Perry...not sure from what music video.
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Anal intercourse is disgusting, yes, that includes hetero anal. We all know what comes out of that hole, filthy gas and solid waste. Using that hole fror sexual arousal and orgasm is objectively disgusting.
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I avoid overt Yuri or homosexually themed anime ...just don't enjoy it so don't watch it - certainly don't want to stop anyone who does; more of a leeway with yuri but still don't enjoy when things get too explicit (personal definition); men are usually attracted to girls so Yuri won't seem as strange.

Heterosexual relationships are more consequential than Homosexual relationships. Marriage can only exist between a man and women, as only a man and woman can produce children (in most cases they desire and have children - 0% of homosexual relationships produce children); the ideal situation for children is to have both a mother and a father. Homophobia? That is just a made up word to "shut up" those who disagree for whatever reason ...heterophobia? No matter what the legal redefinition of the term (there is no such thing as "gay" marriage - marriage is marriage, marriage is the joining of male and female). WHO"S obsessed??? - honestly I don't think about same sex attraction.

Hate is a term thrown around in an attempt to demonize and silence the opposition - the very premise I reject. The Catholic church can no longer give needy children homes in some states because the side of "love and tolerance" could not accept a group who only placed children with heterosexual couples. Even leaving all Biblical arguments out of it (very wise these days) reason makes the case - without hate too; though the biblical definition is limited to the union of male and female.

Any homosexual can marry ...any woman he wants; any heterosexual cannot marry any man (or woman) he wants (in most states) - there has never been any discrimination. If marriage (traditional definition) loses its meaning fewer men and women would likely get married - and that is a very bad thing for society (think of the children). That said, if two women or two men want to have a ceremony they should be left alone; government should not prohibit but neither should it endorse. If a florist decides she doesn't want to cater to a homosexual wedding they should leave her alone as well and find someone else. I could be wrong, but I don't think most homosexuals even desire to get married or would even if they could get a marriage certificate.

"Separation of church and state" is not in the constitution. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof [unless they do not endorse homosexuality of course]; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petitition the Government for a redress of grievances." `Separation of Church and state' is an out of context quote from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson defending churches from government interference which an activist court decided to rewrite history with.

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Glimus [link url="/forumtopic-817585/why-are-homophobes-obsessed-with-gay-men-but-ignore-lesbians?fpid=4412782

As soon as you call folks opposed to homosexualtiy "homophobes" then you lose any real argument you could possibility have. Does that then make homosexuals "heterophobes?"

Homophobic feelings has nothing to do with most of the people who are opposed to homosexuality. You can be against something and not be afraid of it. I oppose homosexuality due to how it tries to redefine marriage and a family and I have had gay friends. Do I hope their lifestyle changes of course. But that does not stop me from being a coworker or friend to them.



Do you also view divorces as an attack on traditional definition of marriage? If so, do you believe divorces should also be illegal? I just think it's a joke when the people like Rush Limbaugh, who has multiple divorces, would argue that gay marriage destroys traditional marriage.
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Marriage can only exist between a man and women, that is commonsense biology. Only a man and woman can produce children (in most cases they do - 0% of homosexual couples do); the ideal situation for children is to have both a mother and a father. Homophobia? That is just a made up word to "shut up" those who disagree for whatever reason ...heterophobia? No matter what the legal redefinition of the term (there is no such thing as "gay" marriage - marriage is marriage, marriage is the joining of male and female). WHO"S obsessed??? - honestly I don't think about same sex attraction.


Marriage has nothing to do with biology. Also, producing children is not the only reason to get married. People can get married and not have children and still be happy. The ideal situation for children is to have caring parents that look out for the kids' best interest. There are many mother/father who are abusive and are not ideal parents. Every situation is different.

If the ability to produce children is your condition for marriage, then what about people who are naturally infertile? Should they be given the right to marry? What is different about those people getting married and adopting kids as opposed to gay couple getting married and adopting?


dougeprofile wrote:
"Separation of church and state" is not in the constitution.



Maybe you should read the First Amendment and the subsequent Supreme Court decisions involving said amendment.
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As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, females are seen as being more "touchy-feely" with one another.

Think about it. We (girls) hold hands with our best friend, we hug, we share secrets, we make a big deal over sleepovers, heck with our close friends we may even share a kiss or two on the cheek. If two girls were walking down the street holding hands, a few immature people might comment "Hah hah! Are you guys lesbians??" but for the most part, people wouldn't even bat an eye.

But if two guys were walking down the street holding hands? EVERYBODY FLIPS OUT!

Society seems to deem the value of a man by how much he's uh... ...sowed his seed, so to speak. It's why men can brag about how many times they've gotten laid and what not.

Two girls just hugged each other and gave one another a kiss on the cheek..? No harm done! They're just being girls!
Two guys? OMG! What is wrong with you?! As a healthy man, WHY ARE YOU NOT PASSING ON YOUR GENETIC CODE AT EVERY POSSIBLE MOMENT?? end sarcasm mode.

Also, there's the fact that lesbians are seen as being "safer". There are people who think that a lesbian will be INSTANTLY converted if she just has sex with the right guy! Like there's a magical sexuality-changing phallus out there. Though I'm sure their are plenty of straight women out there who think they could rock a gay guy's night and instantly make him straight.. it seems to largely be more of a male thing.
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dougeprofile wrote:

Any homosexual can marry ...any woman he wants; any heterosexual cannot marry any man (or woman) he wants (in most states) - there has never been any discrimination. If marriage (traditional definition) loses its meaning fewer men and women would likely get married - and that is a very bad thing for society (think of the children).




I don't understand this argument. So if gays are allowed to marry, then fewer straight couples would marry? Why would I not marry someone because other people now have the same rights I do?

Also if you support "traditional" marriage, then what are your views on divorce? Divorces ends (traditional) marriages so should divorces be illegal? A guy like Rush Limbaugh who has divorced 3 times- surely that's more of an assault on traditional marriage than any gay marriages?
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I swear, the prejudice against homosexuals is so contradictory. By contradictory, your telling me its ok to Romance your family member, yet your going to do everything in your power to prevent same sex lover's from Marrying?

For Example

I take it that the Southern United States is famous for its Hate, prejudice and discrimination (though it ISN'T the only place). In the south, it's never openly discussed but marrying family is common practice. Now, everyone has that mindset that such a thing is horrifying yet we don't go out of our way to say that Poor Mr. John Doe can't marry his sister Jane Doe. No, we go out of our way to absolutely SCORN the fact that Mr. John Doe wants to marry Mr. Jame's Smith. Now, my statement here isn't just biased on Incestual Relationships against homosexual relationships. There are countless relationships out in the world that don't exactly meet today's norm, yet we as humans will fight hard to prevent homosexual's (which in opinion are closer to normal than most would think) from doing the things that would make them happy.

Let's say that you (male/female) wish to marry someone you have absolutely fallen in love with. The person you love is Charming, funny, charismatic and kind hearted . The feeling between you two is mutual and you both wish for the same. However there is one small obstacle... the other person is not a natural human. No matter how similar they are to a human, they are still artificial. In your land, it is considered taboo for you two to join, no matter how much you love each other. In your land the people despise you, disregard you as a human being, mock you and overall hate you just because of your love. How does that make you feel? Is it Fair?

Is any of this fair? A human is a human and love is love. Everyone should have their right in the pursuit of happiness. Isn't that same pursuit the reason this country was founded for? Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.... Yet here we are stomping our feet all over those ideals with our own prejudice and bias. Can we ever change? Or is this the path we will forever remain on. This is not what America should have been.
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tedn wrote:

Anal intercourse is disgusting, yes, that includes hetero anal. We all know what comes out of that hole, filthy gas and solid waste. Using that hole for sexual arousal and orgasm is objectively disgusting.



Disgusting to some people. Natural to others. It's usually very safe if you make sure you go to the bathroom a few hours before, use some lube so that the lining doesn't get torn. You don't even have to do that yucky douching stuff. People just do that because of personal preferences; douching is actually not very healthy.


Clean up a little bit afterwards and you're perfectly fine. Besides, the male prostate is up there. That's one of the greatest pleasure spots in existence.


You should do some research first because you spout nonsense.
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mhibicke wrote:


Mayo2111 wrote:
I think I may go the rest of my life wondering why people are so against letting gays and lesbians marry. I honestly do not see what the big deal is.


Maybe if too many same-sex couples get married it renders all hetero marriages obsolete?
I think it's just a bunch of otherwise unremarkable people clinging to their special rights and feelings of entitlement.





.... Wat.


As far as I am concerned. Hetero people are here to make babies. As long as they do their job, I dont care.

Marriage is a stupid, pointless thing anyways. And if I want to marry the woman I love, I will do it; even if I have to stage a fake marriage. Lol.
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dougeprofile wrote:

Marriage can only exist between a man and women, that is commonsense biology. Only a man and woman can produce children (in most cases they do - 0% of homosexual couples do); the ideal situation for children is to have both a mother and a father. Homophobia? That is just a made up word to "shut up" those who disagree for whatever reason ...heterophobia? No matter what the legal redefinition of the term (there is no such thing as "gay" marriage - marriage is marriage, marriage is the joining of male and female). WHO"S obsessed??? - honestly I don't think about same sex attraction.

Hate is a term thrown around in an attempt to demonize and silence the opposition - the very premise I reject. The Catholic church can no longer give needy children homes in some states because the side of "love and tolerance" could not accept a group who only placed children with heterosexual couples. Even leaving all Biblical arguments out of it (very wise these days) reason makes the case - without hate too; though the biblical definition is limited to the union of male and female.

Any homosexual can marry ...any woman he wants; any heterosexual cannot marry any man (or woman) he wants (in most states) - there has never been any discrimination. If marriage (traditional definition) loses its meaning fewer men and women would likely get married - and that is a very bad thing for society (think of the children).

I avoid overt Yuri or homosexually themed anime ...just don't enjoy it so don't watch it - certainly don't want to stop anyone who does; more of a leeway with yuri but still don't enjoy when things get too explicit (personal definition).

"Separation of church and state" is not in the constitution.



The sad thing is that since you're not the president. I dont care about you.


When I find a nice woman, I will marry her because it's legal in Canada. I will flaunt it in your face and make fun of you and insult you because I will find it absolutely hilarious to laugh in the face of your close mindedness. I find people like you to be sub-human monstrosities.
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I think most people find flatulence and feces disgusting. Being aroused by the orifice and organs directly related to the excretion of these
bodily wastes is also disgusting. I don't think this is a matter of taste. I propose unresolved toilet training issues may be the source of the
sexual arousal you experience from the fantasizing, sex play and intercourse with this orifice. Or some people are just very anally oriented.
I am not saying you are bad for doing this, but for people unfamiliar with anal sex, a video of men engaged in this activity should be viewed
to determine individual reaction. How many do you think would enjoy such a video. Get a clue, divine one. As far as being natural, since no
biological purpouse is served, I don't think nature has anything to do with it. As far as the prostate goes, I guess=if it feels good, do it.
Except if that involves hurting other people or animals. Point being, pleasure does not justify porking the poop chute.
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DivinePrince wrote:
As far as I am concerned. Hetero people are here to make babies. As long as they do their job, I dont care.

Marriage is a stupid, pointless thing anyways. And if I want to marry the woman I love, I will do it; even if I have to stage a fake marriage. Lol.


Too cute.

PS: Everyone is ignoring Tedn because he is a neo-Freudian troll.
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