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Why didn't Guilty Crown get the same success as Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan?
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I thought Guilty Crown was decent. I thought Sword Art Online was stupid, and I will say it is stupid until the day I die. However, as stupid as SAO was, it was fun to watch. Maybe because it was stupid, who knows, it is a guilty pleasure.

Now unlike SAO, I didn't think GC was stupid. Unfortunately, I found it bland for the majority of its run. It didn't even let me make fun of it like SAO, it just did what other animes of this type do. The only emotional responses I remember having to it were 1. Thinking that Hare was adorable and feeling sorry for her after everything that happened. 2. Thinking that the whole school deserves to die after the small arc where Shuu became dictator of the school. I mean he was trying to keep them alive, and then they all just turn on him and sell him out, it was like, you guys deserve to die, you are the scum of the earth, god I miss Hare. Before and after that arc though, I felt very few emotions while watching GC, I really found the rest of it bland as hell.

I also don't see why it was compared to Code Geass. Is it because the main character got some special power from some mysterious girl? That is not what Code Geass was about. Shuu's special power was pretty much his only worthwhile trait in GC, also it was a big powerful weapon that let him be super strong. Lelouche's special power was a tool, a tool with very limited utility, His worthwhile trait was that he was a genius and master strategist. He was weak when it came to actual battle, he just knew how to use people and fight wars. While a main character with some special sword is pretty cliche in Anime and Manga, one whose entire character revolves around being a morally ambiguous strategist is pretty rare, I really can only think of Light from Death Note and Lelouche in that respect. I think Guilty Crown was NOTHING like Code Geass where it really matters.

As far as Attack on Titan goes, I don't watch much of it so I can't say for sure. I think it is basically because it is like a zombie movie. The titans are like giant zombies, a nearly unstoppable force that threatens humanity. Also I think it's popular due to the mystery of trying to find out just what is with the titans.
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I actually really liked Guilty Crown. Sure it may not be one of the best animes ever but it is certainly a good one. I think the reason it did not become as popular as SAO or AoT is probably because it really was not anything new. The mecha genre is very established in anime and perhaps people just wrote it off as another cheap mecha anime. And when it has so many similarities with an anime master piece like Code Geass it is almost inevitable that people will make comparisons. And unfortunately for Guilty Crown it was a poor mans Code Geass where Shu (probably one of my most disliked main characters in anime) was like an ant compared to perhaps one of the greatest characters in anime, Lelouche. The areas where it shone was definitely in its animation and music but unfortunately those aspects can only take an anime so far if it has an awful plot infested with plot holes.

For me SAO became very popular because it was something new, there were not many "gaming" animes out there and fortunately for it a lot of anime watchers tend to be gamers as well. So SAO appealed very well to its niche market at the beginning (though I felt it just turned into a generic romance later where it should have focussed more heavily on the gaming aspect).
As for AoT I think a lot of its popularity has to come down to how well it was promoted even before it was released. Several months before its actual release I seem to recall that there was a very powerful PV for it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIA2ab_9fo (this one if I am correct) which made it very well known and caused a sense of intrigue around the anime even before it came out, so it had a good had start on other animes.
Guilty Crown did not promote itself as well before its release as AoT did and it did not have anything new to offer like SAO
Also I am unsure just how much competition affects how popular an anime can get but I would say that it does as Guilty Crown had several quality animes that were running in the same time as it did. So Guilty Crown did have a lot of competiton from animes like Mirai Nikki and Fate/Zero which ran at a similar time and probably took a lot of the lime light away from it. And when we look at when SAO ran I don't think it had too much competition and AoT certainly does not have much competition at all either (as most of the animes running along with it now are comedy/slice of lifes)

But I dont think that it is as if Guilty Crown never existed though, It does have a good following as we saw 120,000 members on MAL is very good, the rating is arguably a little low but for me Guilty Crown is like the Marmite of anime. You either love it or hate it

Anyway I hope someone actually bothered reading it and I did not just waste a lot of my time
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SpaceWalrus wrote:


KSIKirito wrote:

nothing can beat SAO. Its the perfect anime


I didn't realize Perfect anime had no plot or 3 dimensional characters. I still remember when that tentacle monster attacked Asuna, wasn't that a perfect moment that had so much meaning and relevance? Screw Lelouche's speeches or Gurren Lagann's message of hope and progress. perfect anime has pointless tentacle rape, Lolis, little sister cliches, and millions of pointless plot points and characters.


SAO is the perfect anime, the storyline, art, music, characters, everything is good
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So basically, you're asking why a hyped show that wasn't very good wasn't as successful as two other hyped shows that were decent? Isn't it because it wasn't very good and the other two were decent?
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So basically, you're asking why a hyped show that wasn't very good wasn't as successful as two other hyped shows that were decent? Isn't it because it wasn't very good and the other two were decent?


I'll just quote myself from the first page to give you an idea


Chemist wrote:


Posted 8/19/13

KSIKirito wrote:


SpaceWalrus wrote:


KSIKirito wrote:

nothing can beat SAO. Its the perfect anime


I didn't realize Perfect anime had no plot or 3 dimensional characters. I still remember when that tentacle monster attacked Asuna, wasn't that a perfect moment that had so much meaning and relevance? Screw Lelouche's speeches or Gurren Lagann's message of hope and progress. perfect anime has pointless tentacle rape, Lolis, little sister cliches, and millions of pointless plot points and characters.


SAO is the perfect anime, the storyline, art, music, characters, everything is good


Story for season 1 = Survive

Story for Season 2 = Save Girl

NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!...Except a million times.


Art does not make a good anime/show/story, otherwise, James Cameron's Avatar would be the greatest movie on Earth


Music = Music was mediocre


Characters = 1 dimensional, no character development, made out to be perfect people with stupid flaws

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Posted 8/19/13
I don't know specifically.. but I personally didn't care for it as much.
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wow people are rly feeding trolls and take them for real lols
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If they would combine everything good about Sword Art online, being the Animation, world building, and general art style.

and everything good about .Hack//Sign, being the Characters, story, fight choreography, and character Deign.


Then you'd have an amazing show.

Seriously, they even has the same Music sorta kinda, but .Hack//Signs story has far more weight despite the whole "we don't die" aspect. I mean, immortality can often be a blessed with suck moment right? SAO has all the epic world building and setting to just SELL it's awesomeness.

Standard Cliched characters not withstanding.

Oh and, Double Zeta FTW.

I had a lot of fun with Guilty Crown, but there was little about it for me to like in regards to Story, Character, and drama in general. Every scene had some great visuals and music and the show works on a popcorn flick standard, and would probably be better Dubbed because of it.

But the gaping logic holes make me shout at them! Dude had A SKELETON KEY CAMERA, WHY ARE YOU CALLING HIM TRASH? HOW IS HE A LOWER RANK THAN THE MOTHERFRACKIN VASE DUDE? HIS SUPER WEAPON WAS A VASE HOW IS THAT NOT THE LOWEST?

And don't the weapons reflect your weakness in yourself? So the strongest weapons are actually the people with the largest problems? Thats how it was explained right?

ooooh the logic fail....but visually everything was perfect through out.

Oh and "We die if our weapons get hit, oh GOD!"

well you also die if YOU GET HIT! Seriously, what's more likely to break? Your Metal-soul Scythe, or YOUR GOD DAMN SKULL. Oh no these powerful weapons break and we die.....I'd better take care of it, like I do MY OWN BODY.

gaaah, they maka me soo mad.

But, if they preview Guilty Crown on the likes of Toonami, you'd bet it'll get some views, more so than 8 year reruns of Eureka 7 and IGPX, WE'RE DONE WITH THOSE SHOWS, SHOW SOMETHING ELSE.
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I thought Guilty Crown was hyped up?

I remember people going:
"Ahhh Supercell (that was me lol)!
Ahhh same director as Death Note and Highschool of the Dead (and now series director of AoT)!
Ahhh its kind of like Code Geass!"
Posted 8/19/13

Rito2Ru wrote:

I thought Guilty Crown was hyped up?

I remember people going:
"Ahhh Supercell (that was me lol)!
Ahhh same director as Death Note and Highschool of the Dead (and now series director of AoT)!
Ahhh its kind of like Code Geass!"


i thought the same thing it remind's me of code geass
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Guys...SAO is godlike...what other anime can have HUGE plot holes, uninteresting characters, random time-skips, pointless romance, cliched "story", massive change in the second half, and still be so popular? Exactly.
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Felstalker wrote:

Oh and, Double Zeta FTW.


Die, myself!

Sorry... I had to...
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theYchromosome wrote:

Isn't it because it wasn't very good and the other two were decent?



This is probably the simplest yet truest answer said in here.
Poor it.


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