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Why didn't Guilty Crown get the same success as Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan?
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Posted 8/19/13
i'd say the mmo theme in SAO just hit at the right time and is a lot more interesting to a lot more people when it was released (unlike something like .hack sign which was released before mmo's became insanely popular like WoW).. so thus i'd say this reason alone is why it would do better than GC in general.

attack on titan is just really good on the other hand
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Guilty crown and sword art online are both pretty bad in my opinion. However what makes guilty crown worst than sword art online is the story,characters and how bloody cliche it is. When your friend said Code geass 2.0 he was half correct but more corrected is code geass not so good version.
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I think one reason why GC also failed to captivate as many viewers as both SAO and Attack on Titan is just the fact that although the animation by Production IG was incredible, along with the fantastic songs sung by Inori, Guilty Crown's cast of characters is even weaker and less interesting than that of SAO. During some moments of the show I just wanted to stop watching due to how annoying Shu was (that scene where he asks to run away together with Inori) and the fact that Inori was basically just a walking bag of one-liners. I sort of liked how GC showed the darker side of humanity when Shu went all dictator, but other than that, I never really got interested in the story.

SAO, while also filled with a bunch of cliches was able to hold my interest at least for the first half. I didn't have the strong feeling to smack Kirito unlike with Shu. Also, considering how popular MMO's are today, the show appealed to a far larger audience than the romance-drama-mecha-apocalyptic-highschool mess that was Guilty Crown. While SAO is heavily flawed, it has the ability to appeal to a wide variety of people which made it extremely popular.

Attack on Titan, I feel is on a whole other level than these other two. While all three are made by the same studio, the plot is actually interesting. Guilty Crown was an original anime with no source-material to use, while SAO was based off of a 15 year old's web novel. Attack on Titan actually has some decent source-material so the story isn't as bad as the former 2. It actually succeeds in using the Apocalyptic genre that Guilty Crown utterly failed to use, while also succeeding at being serious while the other two tried and failed.

TL;DR Overall, although all 3 have great animation I think the main thing that sets them apart is the quality of the plot and how appealing the show actually is.

PS. Also I believe Steins;Gate came out the same year as Guilty Crown so I think the world was more interested in Time traveling mad scientists than wimpy-highschoolers with inferiority complexes aka Shu.

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Posted 8/19/13
It's not as good.
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Posted 8/19/13

GoldTStar wrote:

Guys...SAO is godlike...what other anime can have HUGE plot holes, uninteresting characters, random time-skips, pointless romance, cliched "story", massive change in the second half, and still be so popular? Exactly.


You pwned it with this post!

Game. Set. Match.

Now for the real question why was crap like SAO so loved, while a GOOD anime that took the whole video game/real life concept didn't get a season 2 (and it should have)

BTOOOM!

Way better character development, a real timeline, a real romance, and a good consistent building story!
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For both SAO and GC, I watched the first two episodes and felt compelled to watch more. However, I had a much stronger craving for SAO than GC. SAO was able to hook people into watching the next episode while in GC the hook was weaker.

Just a little point from an anime fan passing by.



Random fact: First 7 episodes of SAO are side stories or flashbacks, explaining the time skip. The time the story is told starts at episode 8.
Also there was no way they could fit two arcs into 25 episodes without sacrificing quality I've read all the SAO LNs and just starting to read the new volume on http://www.taptaptaptaptap.net/.
Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13
I honestly haven't watched Guilty Crown yet. I suppose I missed it because it wasn't hyped up as much as the other two. I will say that between SAO and AoT, the latter has better story layers within the writing.

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Posted 8/19/13

WackyFiasco wrote:

I honestly haven't watched Guilty Crown yet. I suppose I missed it because it wasn't hyped up as much as the other two. I will say that between SAO ans AoT, the latter has better story layers within the writing.


Totally agree.

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HA! I actually just decided to watch Guilty Crown tonight! I just finished the first episode and all I can say that I'm not that intrigued. As with SAO and AoT, I was hooked on the first episode.

That GC's first episode is leaving me with a lot of questions, the characters so far seem really bland, I'm just left feeling like I don't really care about what the hell is happening.

I'm going to keep on watching, but all I can say is that I'm a little turned off from the first episode.

Also I just want to say, screw the haters, I thought SAO was fantastic and deserves all its popularity. It wasn't perfect, but what anime is?
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Posted 8/20/13

LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Also I just want to say, screw the haters, I thought SAO was fantastic and deserves all its popularity. It wasn't perfect, but what anime is?


Tatami Galaxy is pretty damn close.
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I cant really say about other people, but in my opinion GuiltyCrown is a favourite. I enjoyed it completely. Was devastated with the ending, but hell, not all endings have to be romantic, happy, cheerful [like we would want them to be]

I feel like SAO was different from guiltycrown because people wanted to immerse themselves into a Virtual reality world like with SAO.
SAO was a big game of death sure, but with GuiltyCrown we had a huge pandemic that killed [not sure the exact number so just have this bracketed message instead] whilst SAO only had a maximum of 10k people that can die but have fun doing so. Guiltycrown's only option for people was to live or die trying to with no real form of happiness.

It might have also had something to do with the main characters. We have kirito, who is willing to stand up for what he believes should be done. He is a solo player but he isnt afraid to challenge authority. Then we have Eren as well, very aggressive, not afraid to speak his mind and isnt a pushover. Then there is Shu... One of the largest hated protagonists only because hes a wimp.
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Posted 8/20/13

Zappedz wrote:

I cant really say about other people, but in my opinion GuiltyCrown is a favourite. I enjoyed it completely. Was devastated with the ending, but hell, not all endings have to be romantic, happy, cheerful [like we would want them to be]

I feel like SAO was different from guiltycrown because people wanted to immerse themselves into a Virtual reality world like with SAO.
SAO was a big game of death sure, but with GuiltyCrown we had a huge pandemic that killed [not sure the exact number so just have this bracketed message instead] whilst SAO only had a maximum of 10k people that can die but have fun doing so. Guiltycrown's only option for people was to live or die trying to with no real form of happiness.

It might have also had something to do with the main characters. We have kirito, who is willing to stand up for what he believes should be done. He is a solo player but he isnt afraid to challenge authority. Then we have Eren as well, very aggressive, not afraid to speak his mind and isnt a pushover. Then there is Shu... One of the largest hated protagonists only because hes a wimp.


I'm going through Guilty Crown right now and everybody keeps on saying the ending is very depressing. I wonder what the hell is going to happen!!!! I'm guessing something bad happens between Shu and Inori, which I don't want so I'll probably hate it too lol.

But ya, the characters in GC just aren't that appealing to me. And I hate Gai with a burning passion as of now. But I will say that I'm enjoying it.
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I'm still a huge fan of .Hack//Sign. Great Characters and a story driven plot with few but dramatic action scenes, that's how you sell your show.

SAO has merchandise out the face. While I only watched Guilty Crown AFTER I saw SAO, as I saw it on Hulu.

With low marketing, Schoolkid Character designs, and an average ambiguous title, it had some low visibility.

You saw a show called Guilty Crown with a High School Brown Haired Generic Guy wielding an Infinity +1 Sword and holding a Pink Haired Rei Ayanami clone while stabbing the Sky.

We got like, 5 Tropes while looking at the cover, 5 common generic Tropes you also get in Harem series, altho this isn't a Harem, it's slightly better, but that doesn't help it.

Compared to Sword Art Online. You'll expect Swords, an MMO, and awesome visuals, just from the name. And Fantasy designed characters are always loved, be they a Realistic Berserk, or a Phantasmal Slayers, to Old School Lodoss Wars, you're getting Knights and Swords and Fighting. Things everybody loves yet don't see enough of.

The fact that Sword Art had such a wonderful world to explore and learn about really put people into it.

You have numerous ways to sell a series, Guilty Crown tries to sell you on the characters, and that's a HORRIBLE WAY TO SELL YOUR CHARACTERS. You can't spend your introduction on characters, they're too deep or have too much information to sell

But SAO sells it's World. THE WORLD OF SWORD ART ONLINE. The game rules, the setting, the players, the trap. Thats what sold SAO. That's how games like Demon Souls and Dark Souls sell themselves, on the WORLD. My nameless Dark Souls Knight doesn't need a name, the Sunlight Bro's don't need to be deep. We're exploring a massive unique world of awesome-sauce.

Guilty Crown is a crappy School with Crappy government doing Crappy things to Crappy people. Cool Powers and set pieces notwithstanding.
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Guilty Crown went from mecha anime to survival anime to whatever so fast in between seasons that you´ll wonder if it actually was a mecha anime at all.

Sword art online was basically a harem in disguise because our typical, perfect, bland, boring shounen MC who never loses against any horrible antagonist scored a supposed badass girl swordman who´s actually a pathetic damsel in distress, a loli, a forgetable smith and some other weak girl. Hell, he´s so goddamned perfect he even makes his own sister fall in love with him. Oh you wanted to see some exciting swordduels? Honey you should know that our perfect MC will never lose one.

I guess GC was forgetable because it was trying to explain more than the story actually presented but SAO was so shallow after the first episode and so terribly stupid that it somewhat amused me. I respect GC for actually trying to do something original with the kings power or whatever but if only if guilty crown had explained less unrelated stuff to the plot and presented the actual source material, it wouldn´t be so forgetable.



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I love Guilty Crown, I don't see why so many people complain about the characters I liked them, also why many hated the ending it was a perfect ending for it, one of the first animes I watched I think and It has always been one of my favourites since then and that OST is so good.

I enjoyed Sword Art Online, I thought that the second half of the season was a bit weak probably because they skipped a bit but overall I found it pretty good and interesting, not as good as Guilty Crown but it was pretty good.

As for Attack on Titan I am not sure why it is so hyped to be honest I mean it's good but I don't understand why it is so hyped, maybe it was because the OP song was so popular everyone decided to watch, maybe because of that one terrible comical bit with Sasha but I dunno.
However maybe it is because it is kinda a new idea "Kinda" which has some interesting and strong characters "some".
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