Connotation vs. Denotation
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Posted 8/26/13
where do you draw the line in general posting/communications ?

Connotation vs. Denotation


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Connotation - your choice of diction, how you intend to communicate what you say also adds in your attitude in the conversation
Denotation - literal meaning, more general with no color of personal intentions

I guess you can sort of compare it to subjective vs. objective concepts

Not too sure where you're getting at with this question hehe..

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^ based on what she said, I draw the line in the middle, literally.
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I think whether or not you can draw a line depends on if it is a open or closed concept you are talking about. There are obviously some things that you can easily define one way or another. Such as: "The concept “square” is closed. The set of squares has two membership conditions: equilaterality and rectangularity. For something to be in the denotation of “square,” it must satisfy both conditions; in other words, it must be both equilateral and rectangular. Each condition is necessary and together the conditions are sufficient to make something a member of the denotation of “square.” "

There are also words and phrases that have too much of a vague meaning to draw a clear line. This explains it well: "An open concept is one for which the connotation cannot be precisely specified; rather, we recognize members of the class by their resemblance to paradigms of the concept.

Example: “disabled person”

We know the paradigms of disabled persons (people like Stephen Hawking and Christopher Reeve), and we judge whether or not another individual should be called “disabled” on the basis of the resemblance between this person and the paradigms. (I.e., we argue by analogy.)

NOTE: When we say that the concept “disabled person” is open, we mean simply that it is hard to decide in some cases whether that concept should be applied to an individual person. We do NOT mean to say that the concept is useless. Just because it’s hard to say in some cases doesn’t mean there’s no such thing as a disabled person! Arguing that way would be committing the continuum fallacy

All the interesting social, legal, and philosophical notions are open, and require argument by analogy to decide borderline cases: “person,” “good,” “religion,” “rich,” “sexual harassment,” “obscenity,” “minority,” etc. Such argument is important because it matters what we call things. "
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They're pretty straightforward concepts. Denotation is the contextless meaning of the word itself, and connotation is what context and delivery add to the specific utterance of the word.

If you mean to ask how far into the realm of connotation people delve when communicating with others:

I try to pick up on whatever connotations I can, but I've never been particularly good at it. Until a few years ago, I couldn't even recognize sarcasm. I like to think I'm improving, and that I can usually pick up on nonverbal or intoned cues that the speaker means to convey, though I'm definitely not to the point of being able to find things that people are trying to hide.

As for my own communication, I like to be as concise and straightforward as I can, though I'm definitely not above using connotative humour when it springs to mind. But unless I'm trying t get a laugh, I tend to just say what I mean to say, which itself can lead to miscommunications with people who try to read too far into it.
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On the internet it's either sarcasm, trolling, honesty or what I like to call the "hive mind mentality" at work. For starters, both sarcasm and trolling are one and the same to the uneducated, honesty is both pointless and alot rarer than people like to believe and the Hive Mind Mentality(the point at which a given opinion or person reaches a level of internet brownie points so high that everyone flocks to popular opinion and every other opinion gets trolled to kingdom come*) keeps everyone honest in the barren wasteland that is internet forums.
Honestly there's no point in trying to read between a given line(s) and there even less of a reason to care about this.
It's the internet dude...
Who cares?
Unless you missed initiation, never take anything anyone says seriously, ever, or you won't survive.

*Hive Mind Mentality can also refer to users who suck up to popular opinion and brownie points in an attempt to either gain status, respect or his/her own legion of followers for whatever reason(I've seen terrible examples of this where everyone wants to become a mod or something, so everyone sticks to this hypocritical level of political correctness and responsible thinking to attain more brownie points.....)
Because brownie points=life these days.... : /

Seriously though, who cares?
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