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What's your take on Tsunderes ?
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I love a diverse range of characters in an anime but one archetype seems to .. annoy me somewhat and it's none other than tsundere. I find the typical tsundere well there's no why to describe it, just a complete bitch really, majority of the time they will act cold and harsh but then have no reason to warrant such behavior. I ask this because I recently finished Hataraku Maou-Sama and I found the character Emi completely unbearable. So yeah what does everyone like about tsunderes and why ?

Also have you noticed that in ecchi/Harems (if you watch them) that the tsundere/childhood friend cookie cutter character acts as like a "cock block" to the Harem lead ?
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Shukuchi wrote:

Also have you noticed that in ecchi/Harems (if you watch them) that the tsundere/childhood friend cookie cutter character acts as like a "cock block" to the Harem lead ?


That would make sense though, a tsundere is a character who is radically undecided on their feelings towards the other character and would subconsciously be pushed to interfering with that character setting relationship flags in order to either maintain or establish the tsundere's position or status w/ the main character. If anything despite the vast overusing of this character archetype by many anime that lack the writing or story to properly use this archetype, when done well it tends to outshine the often waifish female lead who was slated to win the story no matter how shallow or vapid her personality.

This is the second thread started where someone goes after the tsundere archetype, what is it about this particular archetype are people having so much trouble with? If anything isn't the permanently clumsy airhead archetype far more unbearable?
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There are only a few that I like. I find most tsunderes to be annoying, mainly because they're poorly handled. Even the ones that are handled well, I feel like the writer trying to force us to like them.

Tsunderes are everywhere and I wonder why they're so popular? 9 out 10 times I see a tsundere who shows nothing but her bad traits, yet eveyone in the series and the audience constantly gushes about how great they are despite being aware of their negative traits.

With tsunderes I feel most of their troubles wouldn't happen if they'd just be honest. I spend most of the time going, "Why won't you be honest? It's obvious how feel! You're not fooling anyone!"
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This is the second thread started where someone goes after the tsundere archetype, what is it about this particular archetype are people having so much trouble with? If anything isn't the permanently clumsy airhead archetype far more unbearable?

I'm not going after them I just find most of them annoying bitchy characters which make them completely unlikable, and I wanted to hear from someone who does like them to explain their appeal to me as for the airhead waifu characters, yes I agree they can be just as bad and shallow as tsunderes but then again there are many overused character types in anime that seem copy and pasted everywhere.
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lol how do quote good ? (second time using the forums) xD
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Tsunderes are pretty cool.
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the only tsunderes I really liked was Tsukiumi from Sekirei honestly she seemed harsh and cold but was really a deep loving person


plus she looks freaking hot
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So you're a tsun hater, hmm…

I don't see how emi's behavior is unwarranted. I mean that person… to emi… by him.
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the only tsunderes I really liked was Tsukiumi from Sekirei honestly she seemed harsh and cold but was really a deep loving person


plus she looks freaking hot


Cow udders not hot
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Hibria187 wrote:


uncletim wrote:

the only tsunderes I really liked was Tsukiumi from Sekirei honestly she seemed harsh and cold but was really a deep loving person


plus she looks freaking hot


Cow udders not hot


how can you call them cow udders? they are freaking perfect

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I have mixed feelings honestly. Some tsundere's I like, such as Taiga from Toradora, others I dislike. I wouldn't personally want a girlfriend like that in real life because I wouldn't be able to stand being treated like crap with the odd moment of praise thrown in. But I probably like them more than I dislike them.
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uncletim wrote:


Hibria187 wrote:


uncletim wrote:

the only tsunderes I really liked was Tsukiumi from Sekirei honestly she seemed harsh and cold but was really a deep loving person


plus she looks freaking hot


Cow udders not hot


how can you call them cow udders? they are freaking perfect



Lol, i guess to each his own : / anything over a D is too big for me and shes rockin some like F cups there
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As others have said, it depends on the tsundere. Taiga from Toradora I love. This is due to the fact that she was never actively mean to Ryuji(sp?) and wanted him and her other friends to be happy.

The one I absolutely loathe is the main female character from Familiar of Zero. She is the one who gives tsunderes a bad name.

On Emi, I can understand the way she is. Her home was destroyed by Sadao's army and her father killed. You throw in the teachings of a very corrupt church, and her behavior is explained.
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The specific character has a lot to do with it. Different tsunderes take the 'tsun' to varying degrees. While I generally like tsundere characters, they do grate on me if they're too mean. Taiga, as everyone's citing, is a good example of tsundere done well. Nothing's overblown with her, she's just awkward with her emotions and it comes out in a sort of bossy way. It's her coping mechanism, and you can clearly see from the start that she's actually just really nervous; it's what makes her so adorable.

The tsundere characters that actively physically harm their crushes for no apparent reason will understandably come off as mean, and although the switch between 'tsun' and 'dere' is the goal for the character archetype, if the 'tsun' is too strong, the 'dere' doesn't feel like it's enough to make up for it. My go-to example is Oreimo's Ayase, who spends far too much time in the series being violent or nasty to Kyousuke for it to even be believable when she confesses to him.

Oddly enough, I think it is possible to 'cross the line twice', as it were, with 'tsun level', my example being Hitagi Senjougahara of the Monogatari series. She's so overblown that she takes 'tsun' beyond 'cute', past 'annoying', and straight to 'terrifying but funny'. I can't say I'd date someone like Senjougahara (though maybe I would), but she's certainly a great character by virtue of her outright standoffishness and acerbic personality.
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To me they seem like an acute masochistic fetish. It would be like "ohh yeah, I've been a bad boy, I looked up your skirt, NOW HIT ME AND CALL ME BAKA." Or possibly a rape scenario like: " I know you really want me inside you when you insult me and tell me to go away, it's only a matter of time."
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