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Posted 9/9/13

GoldTStar wrote:
I don't want anime to get any more popular...im a hipster.


I agree, minus the hipster part. As a subculture, we thrive best when we are not in the public eye, since we are frequently there for all the wrong reasons (i.e. like the ones in that pic posted earlier in this thread).
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Hell, I have a film called Ong-Bak, a fighting film in Japan I do believe, which has subtitles and dubbing.




I just wanted to correct you on this. Ong Bak is a film from Thailand starring the amazing Tony Jaa.
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corteznr1 wrote:


BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:



Hell, I have a film called Ong-Bak, a fighting film in Japan I do believe, which has subtitles and dubbing.




I just wanted to correct you on this. Ong Bak is a film from Thailand starring the amazing Tony Jaa.


Oh right, my mistake I'll change that. It's an awesome film, but the dubbing is still terrible XD.
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1. I don't know anymore -- I only watch South Park and Archer currently. With that said, I'm very interested in checking out Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and a few other well-received shows; They look pretty interesting.

2. Also don't know. Way too many factors.

As to whether it can surpass American mainstream shows: It depends on the criteria. I have no idea with regards to popularity, but popularity is really irrelevant to how "good" a piece of fiction is to me. With regards to most other criteria, I don't think they're comparable. Animation has the ability to explore ideas to an extent that is only eclipsed by the book, but live-action film always seems to feel much more grounded and realistic than animation (likewise with animation to books). So to me, and although to a lesser extent, the question "can animation surpass live-action?" is a bit like asking "can animation surpass books?" They do different things -- they work on my brain differently. If you are indeed only asking if anime can be liked by all the hip, cool people along with everything else, then: Yeah, why not? Will it though? How should I know?

Finally, as to whether Attack on Titan is better than anything that's "mainstream currently": I don't really know what's popular right now, so I can't answer. I've seen many popular films and shows with much more interesting content, but I can't really say that they're "popular" right now. Attack in Titan is great, but it's not nearly as good as the best I've seen -- anime, "mainstream," or otherwise.

Edit: Also, what makes you think that a bigger budget would make for better shows? I'm not sure it would make any significant differences in the writing quality, and it seems like your whole point here is that anime has better writing than the big-budget popular shows. Doesn't that sort of mean that the budget is more or less regardless of the quality?
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I doubt it. The stupidity and close-mindedness of the modern public is too strong.
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To me this is like Comparing apples to oranges. The average American has little or no grasp on what anime really is and anything other than their cookie cutter mainstream television is either weird or terrible. The producers of Anime are from a totally different culture so naturally whats normal to them will be seen as weird by somebody who doesn't watch anime,so to answer your question no it can not surpass mainstream shows

To prove my point: A few years ago I got together with some friends to watch Kill Bill vol.1, during the movie there is a animated part showing the childhood of the
Lucy Lu character . After it was over one of my friends turned and said "is this what all anime is like" I was amazed that she thought that was what anime was! (And for the record it was most certainly not anime!) I had to explain that just because they use animation to help tell a mature story that it dose not automatically make it anime.

I hope anime grows but I don't want to see it go main stream. Most people who watch anime watch it because they truly like it not because its popular or because of a fad.
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It's depending on the shows sometimes. It is hard to say how enjoyable anime is if all i can show is a massive amount of ecchi comedy.
I say that a lot of anime shows can stand up to and some surpass current american/British mainstream shows but only because the mainstream isn't that strong at all. The difference of Japanese sensibility of situations isn't helping much.
The best chance of more mainstream anime is places like Toonami get's more and more anime shows and viewers so then more people know what anime is and the potential of more fans in long-term.
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It is not going to happen, even if it should. A lot of anime is better than most crap on television these days, after all.
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Posted 9/9/13

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GoldTStar wrote:
I don't want anime to get any more popular...im a hipster.


I agree, minus the hipster part. As a subculture, we thrive best when we are not in the public eye, since we are frequently there for all the wrong reasons (i.e. like the ones in that pic posted earlier in this thread).


Yea definitely, there are people in this subculture who act like that which could be incredibly irritating to see and could give others a huge misconception. Also, im not really a hipster lol but i like the state anime is in right now, where it is not the center of attention. Companies could use some more support from true fans though
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Posted 9/9/13 , edited 9/9/13

GoldTStar wrote:
Companies could use some more support from true fans though


I'd like to see some more support from some of those "true" fans too, since I think the true fans are already supporting the industry with our purchases.
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If it could/did, I would probably have real friends...
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I believe anime can. Just look at The Simpsons. That shows has run longer than any show with live actors.
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I believe anime can. Just look at The Simpsons. That shows has run longer than any show with live actors.


Or South Park for that matter ><

I kind of have to think the whole thing is a false dichotomy though, shows are shows regardless of the way we categorize them.
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Well, I am a 46 YO female...I got rid of my dish about 1 1/2 years ago and now I watch CR and Hulu.... I have pretty much given up on mainstream....there are a select few shows that I watch, but 95 percent of what I watch is anime... I have found that for Me...anime is so much more enjoyable...I laugh, cry, get mad.... all of these feeling come out that you don't expect when watching anime....
So for me.....Goodbye Mainstream....I'm sticking with anime....
I cried like a baby on this part...


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Old thread new post need to add my two cents here as well.

I really don't want want Anime to go mainstream because as it becomes popular companies like 4kids will destroy by putting copyrights and completely slaughter by censoring unnecessary crap that goes on in most Animes: like Japanese food being replace to be more westernize, unintentionally removing what is consider humor or deliberately remove it, in-correct voice-actors used, (I see this most of the time in Animes that's become mainstream. Say in a Japanese OVA a character looks like a female, but its actually a male. Most of the time western dubbing companies will not follow through if it looks like a female it will be a female kinda stupid. Or they'll re-word it to be more a female.), and most important most dubbing companies will cut or not show in public and the viewers are missing a very important pieces of the puzzle and may not understand why are they or like that because of unintentional cuts.

I never watch anything on television as its filled with crap and my true of entertainment is on my computer either playing my favorite onlien games, YouTube subcribers, XXX related materials, Software programming, and occasionally Animes and the reason why I don't like Animes becoming mainstream.


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