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This will sound silly, but I think I might have brainwashed myself into thinking subconsciously anime is unpopular.

I've grown up in a family of people who diss anime a lot, heck when I was about 6 years old my mom would see me watching dragon ball z and criticize the 4fps animation and the big eyes looking 'effeminate'. I use to just brush it off, but after years of this kind of this 'abuse' from my family I finally dropped anime for about 10 years.

Than back in 2008 I got back into it, but the pain of my past really effects my overall view of it, I enjoyed it fine for 2 years, but once 2010 came around I felt like since I actually love anime with a passion again that I am subhuman due to past experiences. I only see flaws in the anime I watch now and for some reason cannot enjoy any anime anymore, but I want to enjoy it like I use too.

So a few questions (please provide proof to the answers)

1. is anime really hated by most people? If so, how can I accept that reality without beating myself up for liking it?

2. In the future, how can I bursh off people who just happen to diss anime and/or judge me for liking it?

Thanks in advance.
Posted 9/8/13 , edited 9/8/13
Anime has been hated for being over sexualized, cheesy, and cheap. Not the case with every production. But no, don't beat yourself up for liking it.

Anyone who gives you crap for liking anime may have never seen its better side. Just allow there to be those with hate and bias towards it. There always will be. If someone approaches you with intent to give you shit, you could offer them a chance to see something of a widely acceptable quality to clarify that not all of it is pedophilic porn with terrible animation. Show them some Miyazaki and they may react to that as though it were a gateway drug. I had personally converted one friend for a time with a startling result and found others who already knew how much power anime can have.
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If people dont like anime for those reasons thats fine, but the reason im having trouble is because I feel people are thinking cute=gay. (what the heck?)

Look at this:



then this



So far not many people have judged me for perfering cute stuff over ugly, I love cute stuff, but I feel pressured by my conscious to not. (since im a male anyway I guess it's natural)

Honestly, is cute really a bad thing? How do I make the hamster in my head shut up?
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You are thinking way too much man, you like what you like.
You shouldn't stop yourself or agrue with it, if you want it just enjoy it, you are only harming yourself.
I mean there is a heck of a lot of people that watch anime, so it's clearly not wrong, even if you watched the animes with the "gay"esque elements it wouldn't be wrong.

You just gotta enjoy what you enjoy, simple as that, no point stopping your own mind from enjoying something, no point asking people to help with your own mind because you control it. So all i can say is to tell your head that millions of people from kids to parents, to absolute oldies watch anime and love it. It's funny, imaginative, has quirks and charisma. It has stories you cannot get in real life and if you are anything like me, it's just way more fun to watch than anything Americanized in the movie industry.

I understand your problem though, when you are a child and told something is wrong, or bad it's rooted into your head like a natural instinct, the only way to stop this is to tell it no and it takes a lot of effort and hard work into over writing it. In real life and obviously on the web, i am a very charismatic person, i'm good looking and funny but because of my past it's been rooted in my head to stay away from people so it takes me months to open up enough to talk to someone and even longer to be myself. So you just have to tell yourself the evidence it's okay, which there is a lot of and the most obvious proof is, THAT YOU LIKE IT. Then you just have to ignore it, if you really can't get over it, it may be unresolved issues with your parents and it could help to tell them yourself it isn't all bad, that is has good and you don't care what they think because you enjoy. You would be surprised how much unresolved issues effect us humans.

Most important thing and this goes to life in general, Just enjoy what you enjoy and be happy. Don't question yourself or things that happen, have fun and enjoy yourself or life isn't much of a life!

And the cute to ugly thing is just something society has rooted into our heads, men are supposed to enjoy big manly scary things, where women like cute, more feminine things, heck i like twilight and i'm a guy? So What? I appreciate love and romance, don't see whats wrong with it.... Plus i think Kristen (whatever her name is) is hot! Anyway so yeah it's just rooted into your head by society you are not supposed to like it, how it's rooted in that men have to have "private parts" the size or trucks, woman have to have breasts that are big, and they must always look perfect. Once again just ignore these things, if al the girls putting themselves into anorexia or crying everyday because of a little thing did that, the world would be slightly better.
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Wow mann don't over think or get to deep into this stuff, i love anime and i thinks its cool but then others think its gay or somethin but idc its pretty common for there to be anime watchers but not the most popular
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GeassForce wrote:

This will sound silly, but I think I might have brainwashed myself into thinking subconsciously anime is unpopular.

I've grown up in a family of people who diss anime a lot, heck when I was about 6 years old my mom would see me watching dragon ball z and criticize the 4fps animation and the big eyes looking 'effeminate'. I use to just brush it off, but after years of this kind of this 'abuse' from my family I finally dropped anime for about 10 years.

Than back in 2008 I got back into it, but the pain of my past really effects my overall view of it, I enjoyed it fine for 2 years, but once 2010 came around I felt like since I actually love anime with a passion again that I am subhuman due to past experiences. I only see flaws in the anime I watch now and for some reason cannot enjoy any anime anymore, but I want to enjoy it like I use too.

So a few questions (please provide proof to the answers)

1. is anime really hated by most people? If so, how can I accept that reality without beating myself up for liking it?

2. In the future, how can I bursh off people who just happen to diss anime and/or judge me for liking it?

Thanks in advance.


Well for two, you can stop being so fucking insecure. "Waah, this bad guy made fun of me for liking chinese cartoonz." I can't believe anyone actually gets upset over this. I refuse to accept it. This is a clever ruse perpetuated by clever rusemen such as yourself. No way anyone actually takes to heart what someone else has to say about your hobbies.
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You'd be surpised Alex, since I happen to be a metalhead I go on last.fm a lot to get news from my favorite bands. I look at the comment boxes and they are full of trolls and people who take to heart the crap people dish out.

Heck I'll say one of them, DragonForce is one of my favorite bands, but on last.fm the comment boxes are all just bitching and trolls. Just look it up.


Anyway back on topic, I guess I might take my hobbies to seriously, I just feel since I had them all my life I actually feel they are a part of me, and if someone disses my hobbies in a way they are dissing me. Does this sound logical to anyone? (I'm hoping for a no)
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GeassForce wrote:

Anyway back on topic, I guess I might take my hobbies to seriously, I just feel since I had them all my life I actually feel they are a part of me, and if someone disses my hobbies in a way they are dissing me. Does this sound logical to anyone? (I'm hoping for a no)


It's more than logical it''s normal, that alex guy (to me) is being just a plain and simple -Insert rude word here- To you, please ignore it. If you are upset by something you have all the right in the world to be so. Your feelings are not fake or imaginary, you just have to learn to tell them to shut and go away, you're having fun.

When you enjoy something is does become part of you, every person is different but for instance, when it comes to love or family. If you are in love that person is a part of you, if they hurt you hurt, if someone insults them you feel insulted. When it comes to family (my brothers have autism) and someone mocks them, or makes fun of them because of their mental handicap, i am angry beyond what you would beleive. You want to protect what you care about, which is probably what makes you not like anime as you have these rooted images of your family saying something you like is bad.
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Thanks spc. But he is right that I am way to insecure. I'm working on it IRL with a mentor. And thanks for the brilliant first post. I might just save the text to my ipod.

I think I'm good but if anyone has anymore advice feel free to post it I can use this thread as a future reference when I or anyone with the same condition I'm in get the 'anime blues'.
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I think 'hate' is a strong word. Anime is misjudged. People have preconceptions about it so most don't even try to explore its potential.
In the end, and this advice is a cliche, but just stop giving a shit, just stop giving a shit.
Don't let people's opinions dictate your emotions, Don't let people's opinions dictate what you do with your life.
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Get yourself an identity and stop caring what people think of things you like, is probably the best advice that I, or anyone for that matter, can give you.

I could give a rats' smelly spot what anyone would care to think or say about it, it's what I like and if they have to hate on it so much as opposed to just being neutral or ignorant on it I probably wouldn't be inclined to like them anyway.

Anime is very popular, don't kid yourself or others, but you're never going to convince someone who doesn't like or know anything about it this fact, so there's no point in trying. If they're interested, they'll watch it, and keep watching it. If not then they won't. Either way it's nobodies business but yours how you decide to entertain yourself.
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"Anime" has been growing in popularity for some time now and even several western animations are taking on the style. Japanese animations at the same time a growing in popularity and watching them seems to be heading toward a commonplace household entertainement as each generation becomes more exposed than the last.

It's becoming less a nerd venture and becoming an entertainment choice especially since it covers a broad age spectrum over several genre.

As far as liking cute stuff, nothing is wrong with that to begin with. I have no questions about my masculinity, but that doesn't meaning I can't like the softer side of the spectrum. Anyone who doesn't is just a macho stick in the mud who think they define what a man is.

Being in link with your feminine side doesn't make you gay. If you're straight, you're straight. Not that you should worry about what others think or what preference you take.

On another note, there are animations with a cute style that have fairly twisted or depressing stories, events, etc.
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GeassForce wrote:

You'd be surpised Alex, since I happen to be a metalhead I go on last.fm a lot to get news from my favorite bands. I look at the comment boxes and they are full of trolls and people who take to heart the crap people dish out.

Heck I'll say one of them, DragonForce is one of my favorite bands, but on last.fm the comment boxes are all just bitching and trolls. Just look it up.


Anyway back on topic, I guess I might take my hobbies to seriously, I just feel since I had them all my life I actually feel they are a part of me, and if someone disses my hobbies in a way they are dissing me. Does this sound logical to anyone? (I'm hoping for a no)


I'm sure you're looking at the Thread still, but I'ma quote you just to try and grab your attention better.

This is truly a topic that will provide a wide array of answers, and each answer is based in personal opinion and experiences. So best I can do is tell you mind, throw silly pictures, and I hope ask you questions.

Questions are simple. What kind of shows do you like? Do you buy into your hobbies? (like owning posters and CD's of your favorite band, or grabbing that blue-ray of your movies) Are you someone who enjoys the Culture behind Anime? The Fandom behind Anime? The individual shows? What draws you towards anime? Have you ever been to an Anime Convention? Do you have friends who like Anime? Do you want to meet people who like Anime? Why are you asking this question?

See? tons of questions can be asked!

and no, it's not silly to feel insulted when someone insults something you like. Insulting something they like however is Illogical and Spock would disapprove.

You have to take into consideration what Anime is in Japan. It's another Medium. That's it. It's no different than a regular Sit-com, TV Show, Cartoon, Comic Book, Novel, Movie. If my history knowledge is still correct, Japan moved towards animation right after WWII. You see, when a big chunk of your populous is dead, and your economy in ruins, making Hollywood blockbusters ain't happening. Then you have a disbanded military and a booming economy. As far as I know, people never thought Japan would become so big so quick. Something about not spending money on your Military and focusing on Economy beyond all hell. But to focus, they moved towards Animation since it was a cheap and didn't rely on Actors. It's labor intensive instead of people intensive. Over time, it's just another thing.

In America however, we obviously treat animation as a Kids thing, generally marketing our cartoons towards kids. We also have a fairly large Holywood thing, so we get those Sit-coms and Comedys and Movies and Game of Thrones. We have the budget, actors, and studios to make them.

Another point to add, American and Japanese Culture are different. Japanese Culture is different than everybody around them! Something about being a Xenophobic nation for a long time, and when forced out of being "isolated" the went all "IMPERIAL JAPAN, FORCE OUR CULTURE DOWN OUR OWN THROATS! NEVAH FORGET!" on us. Things like Kendo are rather popular even today, while over in Europe they gave up on Swords when they invented guns, then 300 years later invented Fencing by saying "you know, I forgot how people used to use swords, LETS MAKE UP A SPORT ABOUT IT!" Japanese culture is thick in anime. To sum up this out of topic chapter, Japanese is Theatric, while America is Cinematic. That's the basics of it. This makes a lot of Anime unwatchable to some people. What with the over emphasis on the same themes over and over.
Nowhere else can you find a Genre as Niche and Japanese as "High School" Genre, like, really? I've got TONS of Cultural differences but I'ma move on, if you want me to elaborate however.(I totally do, I like typing and talking, but this whole Paragraph was probably unnecessary)

Anime Conventions tend to feel unjudging. You have hundreds of thousands of people gathering specifically for a shared interest. If you want to know if Anime is popular, go to a Convention and be assured.

Now onto my personal experiences.

This picture was the best I could find to illustrate my experiences, it took a while but then I remembered the scene in WataMote yesterday, and had to google to find a Screenshot Image, I was lucky enough to find this post with it to add to the awesome and set the scene better, incase you havn't seen it

This was my general experience with Anime in my family. I've got a Brother and a Sister. Back when we were rather young our parents got a divorce. It wasn't some big shocking or amazing experience for me, but it happen. During that time my mom went hard-core Christian on us, and to this day we're closer to Atheist than Agnostic. But during that time we did have one family ritual. Every night when our Mom went to bed, she told us we couldn't watch T.V. down stairs. She made us go up the stairs and watch T.V. in her room until it was bedtime. Now she got home and went to bed around 8, so from 8-9/10/11/12 We had to watch T.V. in her room. And the only shows you could watch around our mom was Cartoons. This was also the time of night that the only good shows playing were Anime. Shows like Cased Closed, Lupin the 3rd, Yu Yu Hakusho, Trigun, Big O, Inuyasha were on. My mom did that for a reason. She was afraid what her kids would do down stairs when sh was asleep, so she'd always want all her kids to be with her in her room every night, safe and sound, before we went to bed. Nothing bad gonna happen when your 3 kids are right on your bed with you, watching Anime right? The shows themselves were far more intelligent and intriguing than most shows we could watch. Saturday morning Pokemon ain't got nothing on Inuyasha. Cased Closed lasted far longer than shows like Filmore and Recess, and provided the same thing.

Hell, even BEFORE that, my Grandpa is a Veitnam vet, and he's a huge tech otaku. He got 2 promotions just because he knew how to use a typewriter. He knows how to record DvD like they were VHS tapes! I don't know how to do that! He could record VHS tapes before people know how to say VCR! He's also a huge collector of varoius things, and actually lived in Japan for 4 years when he couldn't get his Thai wife over to Japan (My Grandma hates Japanese people. She had to live 4 years in their country having every old lady try and talk to her in a language she didn't understand while people acted a little racist towards my Grandpa, my grandma is Thai not Japanese!)

That all said, we grew up on Dragonball VHS tapes. Living near Texas and growing up when Funimation was born helped with that. I got a VHS of Dragonball and the curse of the Blood Rubies still.

Anime as a "thing" is far more accepted than it's ever been. The same is true for Video games. Anime isn't going to become "less" popular. It's actually improving right now.

Things that are HEAVILY Japanese like FLCL tend to cause fan hate. I have people who hate it "cuz it doesn't make sense" and those who love it and makes perfect Sense. Then you have something like Ninja Scroll, whose entire ending is something no American likes to accept. it's just...soooo Japanese of an ending. In America you FIGHT for you happy ending, that's culturally big.

Hell, pick up American Culture now, go Gurren Lagann on this

(Friggin watch it if you havn't)
People don't like your hobby? Falcon Punch'em. It's not your hobby, what the hell you doing judging it? You gonna Judge my hobby? I'll judge your face with my fist.
Seriously now, defending your Fandom is perfectly natural, but make sure you can understand your fandom and their opinions first.

Wow, a lot to read...You had a loaded question bub.
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GeassForce wrote:

This will sound silly, but I think I might have brainwashed myself into thinking subconsciously anime is unpopular.

I've grown up in a family of people who diss anime a lot, heck when I was about 6 years old my mom would see me watching dragon ball z and criticize the 4fps animation and the big eyes looking 'effeminate'. I use to just brush it off, but after years of this kind of this 'abuse' from my family I finally dropped anime for about 10 years.

Than back in 2008 I got back into it, but the pain of my past really effects my overall view of it, I enjoyed it fine for 2 years, but once 2010 came around I felt like since I actually love anime with a passion again that I am subhuman due to past experiences. I only see flaws in the anime I watch now and for some reason cannot enjoy any anime anymore, but I want to enjoy it like I use too.

So a few questions (please provide proof to the answers)

1. is anime really hated by most people? If so, how can I accept that reality without beating myself up for liking it?

2. In the future, how can I bursh off people who just happen to diss anime and/or judge me for liking it?

Thanks in advance.


In answer to your questions:

1. Yes and No. That really depends on how open minded people are to this kind of thing, and how they perceive all sorts of Animation to be, where the perception would most likely be 'crappy kids stuff'. (Which isn't the case most of the time) I consider myself lucky on this issue, my friends at school who watch Anime aren't viewed negatively, and I even got my mom into watching Ghost Hound and Spirited Away, which she both likes. But I feel sorry for all the people who've had this issue. Even though I appreciate Anime as fiction should be appreciated, I still seldom buy it in retail stores, and each time I do, I feel like I have to compensate for it by buying TV series or Movies.

And no, there is nothing wrong with liking Anime or Animation, so don't beating yourself up for liking it. Just remember that it's an art medium like any other medium, whether it's a TV series, movie and/or literature, and that it has both the good and the bad, just like every other medium. But just accept the fact that for now, this kind of medium is a popular, yet niche subculture, and nothing will change the outsiders' perception of it.

2. In the future, I wouldn't advise that you go around telling people you watch Anime. Even if you aren't a subhuman (Which you definitely aren't), they will still look at you negatively. So if you ever have that confrontation, just ignore what they say and tell yourself that your still a normal human.
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The older you get the more you realize the opinions of others don't mean squat

Where ever you go what ever you like, there is going to be someone who will tell you you are bad-wrong and why it's evil.

you will also find people who will give you a high five for it.

All those people who diss your hobby.
they have hobbies of their own and odds are you think they are pretty stupid hobbies.

EX: My brother he'll get on my case about why a 40 year old guy like myself is watching cartoons and reading comics and then he'll start rambling on about his latest weight lifting routine or new high protein diet and my eyes will glaze over and my mind will start replaying the latest episode of Symphogear in my head.

Everybody has something they enjoy that other people think is stupid. For you it's Anime, for my brother it's weights and carbs and squats and UFC. For one of my friends it's really bad movies that aren't nearly as funny as he thinks they are.

This is your Fandom and that is all that really matters


plus just for the fun of it there is this place
http://geek.cheezburger.com/cartoons?ref=navbar
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