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Why are parentals often completely absent in SOL anime?
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Felstalker wrote:
And don't you have a parent?


Oh, I do, I do. I'm also a parent myself ... to two teenagers, and they'd both rather watch people like them on TV, rather than people like me.
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I just find lack of strong parental characters in appropriate age characters weak storytelling.


Don't confuse your preferences for weak storytelling. You can tell very good stories without discussing parents.

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It's not flawed. It depends on the studio and the budget for the show. Don't tell me you believe that designing and drawing a face doesn't cost any time or money. And the fact that a few shows do create character designs for one-shot characters does not make the point any less valid.

That being said, I don't have any data to back up this theory. It's just speculation.


Proper parents arn't exactly "one shot" characters.

I mean, when I lived at home, my chances of seeing my dad every day was damn near 300%,

And a picture with a face ain't nearly a large enough time investment not to do it. Manga tends to be guilty of this too at times. Do you think they go bankrupt if they have one too many background characters?

Naaah, background faces are practically stock!


The problem is that you're not defining "one-shot" in the proper context. Sure, if the character is living with their parents, they're going to see them every day. However, as the viewer, we're not going to see every little minute or every little aspect of every character's life. If the parents of a particular character only show up in one episode or one scene, then from the viewer's perspective (and perhaps more importantly, from the animator's perspective), those parents are one-shots.

Back to my original point, I would argue that every show has its own circumstances. I'm not about to say that every instance of missing parents was the result of cutting corners to save money, but to rule it out as a valid reason entirely is an equally silly argument. I could totally see a decision being made early on in production to cut or modify a scene or two from the script just so they wouldn't have to animate another side character. The whole notion of "no-parents" as a style could have emerged from someone overanalyzing a series where the parents were cut for that very reason.

Or I could be full of it. Just saying. It's conceivable.
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Sometimes the plots of the series don't need to involve them, so they are absent with simple reasons like at work or traveling.

Most of the time, the MC is at school. It would be unusual if we don't see a teacher entire time.
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The characters are teenagers, and teenagers, most of the time, begin to distance themselves from their parents, intentionally or not, for the purpose of learning more about themselves. Parents are not often shown, because by and large, teenagers don't pay much attention to their parents unless they have to. This means that the usual role of the parent is either a voice of disapproval that the characters must oppose, or a benevolent influence that can be relied on for help if dealing with a problem alone proves too much for the characters. Often they serve as both.

I personally feel that this is a fairly natural treatment of these characters. Most people are influenced a great deal by their parents, but here's the thing: What teenager wants to admit that? People at that age feel a strong need to find out who they are and what they want to do with their lives, and for many, it's difficult to reconcile their selfhood with the fact that they are partially a product of their circumstances. Accepting the guidance of authority figures (especially parents, who are arbitrarily chosen for you) can be seen as a threat to a teenager's individuality. Usually, the people these characters go to for help are those who they put their trust in on their own judgment. Even in the case of a parent being asked for help, the focus will be on the character's decision to go to that parent. This accentuates the character's autonomy in a situation where they are otherwise at the mercy of the events surrounding them.

I actually think the 'implied parent' treatment is a lot less straining on suspension of disbelief than the widespread parental exodus that seems to plague so many protagonists. I can go along with parents being away, sure, but when they just up and disappear for the entirety of a series, leaving their kids home alone for months on end, that's a little weird. It's much more natural to have them still around, but in the background, as they're not a point of interest to their kids. It also comes with the added benefit of being able to use the parents later on in the plot without jarring readers by a 180-degree spin from utter neglect to genuine care, which is what can occur when the parents are physically absent for the series.

Regardless, the way I see it, essentially, is that slice of life anime are told from the point of view of the major characters, and these characters, being generally in their teenage years, don't want their parents 'meddling' in their own quest for identity and independence. Teenagers don't pay their parents much mind, and that's really all there is to it, in my mind.
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They aren't important to what we glean from the story. For instance, in both School Days and WATAMOTE (私がモテないのはどう考えてもお前らが悪い), the unimportant, background characters are just human forms colored grey. In Hayate no Gotoku, Hayate's parents are just that form with tags saying mother (母) and father (父). There are no faces, because what is the most important and looked-at thing on a person?-the face, particularly eyes. It shows that they aren't important and you shouldn't focus on them.
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I'm pretty sure that it is so that the teen characters can practically do whatever (Leave for months at a time, have a long training camp, save the world, ect.) without having to deal with the repercussions of their actions.
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Seems to me like they are absent because it allows the kid characters to do whatever they want. Honestly, most normal parents would not let their kids get away with all the weird stuff anime kids do.

So, remove the parental rules and everything else and the kids can run wild and do whatever they want, basically.

No one wants to watch a show where the kids are just sitting in their rooms doing homework every night because their parents want them to succeed at school.
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Bavalt says what I wanted to say, but says it a lot better, so my hat's off to him.

And, to expand on one of Minato's points: The absence of parents in School Days is much more deliberate, IMO. It raises the sense of "Shouldn't their folks have some idea that all of this horrible crap is happening?"
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Some good ones with parents.Summer Wars,My Bride Is A Mermaid,Working,Silver Spoon,Eccentric Family,Tari Tari to name a few
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Posted 9/15/13 , edited 9/15/13

deadpanditto wrote:


Felstalker wrote

I just find lack of strong parental characters in appropriate age characters weak storytelling.


Don't confuse your preferences for weak storytelling. You can tell very good stories without discussing parents.



True, very true!

But even if you don't talk about them, the characters or lack of them still have huge influence. A lack of having Parents counts as having them discussed.

Orphans, kids with murdered parents, important things.

A guy who doesn't always talk about his parents? That's a thing, it's a good thing.

But when you're of the appropriate age of teens, your parents are an extremely important thing that few shows completely gloss over!

I'll stand my ground on a lack making for weak storytelling, but I'll allow that you don't require parents for a good story.

A lack is a lack being my argument there.

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