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Well it has made it easier for Europeans to travel from country to country. It has brought Democracy to east european contries, Has made free trade easier. They also mostly try to use diplomacy first. They go in and regulate on things like gambling. Helping countries to get Democracy. They trade with the world. Donar of devolopment aid for Central America.




Thank you, also I can see, why that would be a problem. But don't worry to much, because really such people will exist it's just a part of life.





Also US and EU have the largest bilateral trade and investment relationship in the world. 31% of the world trade and over 49 % of the world GDP.
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Indeed, a very fine example of what happens when the western ideals of freedom and democracy are applied. We should not be discouraged by the troubled times we live in. There's a light at the end of this dark tunnel. We'll come into this light someday soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index One day all of this map will be green. And when it is, we will all finally know peace and prosperity. All of us, every single human.
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ok I can see that I just wish the EU would step up more and say "You know what US take a break we will handle this hot spot with boots on the ground. We will keep the oil flowing We will keep the Sea lanes safe insuring trade flow we got this" Because they haven't yet. If the EU could protect themselves and more of the world then we can close those bases and save billons. But they can't so we ae there for a good long time to come

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Well EU had to drop some of the defence because of the economic crisis. But when we build up, also U.S.A still has a bigger military.

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The USA is not the best influence it could be right now but that has to to with the failure of Capitalism to regulate itself.
We could not do right now what we able to do in 1941-1945 i.e. play the part of the arsenal of democracy.
If we disappeared overnight from the world scene the power vacuum would be filled by an even less desirable system. and the
struggle over the resources of the world would be horrendous.

We had no legitimate business in Iraq but we invaded due to lies told by people within the confidence of the then President Bush.
The way in general that the West treated the people of the Middle East and of Africa caused and continue to cause lots of resentment.
We are a convenient scapegoat for the ideologues of many nations which feel neglected or even mistreated.

The Roman Empire like the USA evolved or devolved from the Roman Republic which was pretty much as aggressive as the Empire.
The present situation in the USA is tending toward the same concentration of power and wealth as was seen in the Roman Republic.

But nations which try to extend their influence in the world past their borders have often fallen into error in their treatment of the populations of other polities. The British did it around the world, the French, the Dutch and the German as well as Belgians and the
Spanish Empires all made serious mistakes when they tried to force Christianity and colonial status on native populations. No matter that the conflicts so occasioned helped eventually the people to become strong enough to throw off their colonial masters.
So the USA would be a happier nation if we the people could once more influence the government into reducing its role as policeman to the world. I don't know if the world would be much happier.
Oh and about the Japanese they have already decided to amend their constitution so that their Armed Forces can be increased substantially. As long as their military is controlled by the politicians I don't think they will fall into the same errors as they did in the early
Showa era. And I left out how badly the Japanese Imperial Army mismanaged the natives in the nations that they took control of in
their attempt to drive the colonialist from the Far East. The other nations who suffered at their hands then are still reluctant to forgive
the war time ills. Japan too resists acknowledging its previous governments errors.

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Ok Ms Zippy how fast you think world trade will fall apart without the US Navy out there protecting the sea lanes? Pretty damm fast and if we pull the 7th fleet out of the far east with in a year Japan will have a nuke and if they get a nuke you think Chinia will stand for it?
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This is a joke, right? Right???
Posted 9/18/13 , edited 9/18/13
(The premise doesn't make sense but i'll have to suspend my disbelief.)

No matter how much you hate the United States you'll have to admit that many countries in the world are very dependent on them, and if they pulled back their forces around the world and stopped interacting with the rest of the world, it would have severe consequences.


I think one of the biggest problems that will arise, is the fact that there are no power to replace that spot the US is holding right now.

Many people will say china, and yes it might be powerful but it really doesn't have the ability to project it's power overseas through military means, and there are still many internal problems it needs to fix before it can be considered one.

Even though the EU is the biggest economy in the world, it's too divided and the only real military powers within the EU are France and the United Kingdom, and they are far from being powerful enough to replace the US.

There's no real criteria for a country to be classified as a superpower, but there are some basic things a country needs to have to be a superpower in the traditional sense that is.

-A sizeable educated population (scientists, engineers etc.)
-Powerful economy and access to natural resources.
-Not being too dependent on alliances to achieve it's goals.
-Having a powerful military that can hold that status.
-Having the ability to project it's power on a worldwide scale.

I can think of several countries that fill out the first four, but only the US has the last one and probably the most important one.
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Like anything in this universe, USA isn't perfect. People criticize them for every flaw or mistakes they make...
But it's not like USA has not contribute any good doings to the world, I don't even follow politics and even I can acknowledge this.


And honestly, I'd rather USA be the power, rather than something like China or one of the Middle Eastern countries or N Korea.

I'm probably biased because I grew up in a democratic country, but I doubt I'll have a different view as my family has always been democratic rather than a strict family sort of thing.
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North Korea is a joke.
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Posted 9/18/13
Lol @ the people who voted that nothing would change
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Posted 9/18/13

DatDanimexican wrote:

North Korea is a joke.


true but it's a joke with 1.5 mil troops and a nuke if the usa wasn't holding it in check the south would fall in days

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Posted 9/18/13
Gonna say no because while I don't like to get into political stuff (I don't watch CNN lol) but I don't see the problem in America stepping in to help a country resolve a conflict. It's not like where taking over countries.
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