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Posted 9/26/13

Sogno- wrote:

my view?

we aren't anime


Ah I see.
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Posted 9/27/13 , edited 9/27/13
Depends. If their attitude makes them a good for nothing rambling fool, then it's a serious problem.

If your convictions lead you dislike humanity but you still make the strong effort treat others with a certain level of respect then your good to go in my book.

A person can hate or love something all they like, but it's a worthless conviction if all they do is rant or idolize whatever the object of that desire may be. What's important is what they do with that desire. If their hate causes them to live their life in a more productive and respectful manner, than by all means hate the world (so long as it doesn't break the threshold of insanity). The same applies for the opposite, except you'd have to watch out for obsession in this case.

Eh, its late this isn't exactly the best way to explain it. I may not even check back here but heck, maybe someone will learn something. Just know that my point is that how emotions are used is more important than defining the existence of the emotion itself when it boils down to really make use of it in life.
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I think a lot of people here are misunderstanding misanthropy. Its not just a trust issue, to be a real misanthrope your philosophical outlook is entirely centered on your hate for humanity. To that point I would think that it can split a few ways, mostly being kind of already said. One is a defensive mechanism, which more often than not due to a cycle of failure to properly develop your self esteem, which leading into adulthood unforgettably, kind of makes you a broken person, which becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, because you hate humans you never reach out and humans in turn don't reach out to you, solidifying your hatred. Then I would say arrogance is actually the self defense mechanism to your solitude not the reverse. You realize that you are alone so you tell yourself that it's because you are different or better than others to cope with the fact, you eventually believe it and then your situation worsens. Other than that, I suppose it could be from actually being diagnosed a sociopath, and then its the opposite way around, arrogance breeds distaste for other humans (which really isn't true misanthropy just being a conceded prick). Same page you could be a naturalist, and see that humans are destructive to nature and believe that everything overall would be better off without humans. And lastly and unfortunately probably the most common, is just internet bitches trying to sound smart, and so they become contrarians, and think that the only way you can "actually be smart" is by having a very negative outlook on life, otherwise you're a naive fool.
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Yeah, I definitely hate people. But technically speaking, I also love them. There are things (in my experience) in all people that I like, and things that I don't like. Even Hiter's... ahem... industrious?... spirit can be admired, even if it was carried out repulsively. Being a human means simultaneously carrying and interacting with the darkest, most dreadful, loveliest, most beautiful parts of existence. Ignoring the bad things in people is as destructive to your inherent humanity as ignoring the good things.

In short, I hate my family, friends, coworkers, the human population, and probably most centrally myself (I happen to know all the best and most despicable parts of myself better than possibly anyone else) -- and simultaneously feel a great love and need for them, and I don't think that's contradictory at all.

So, my thoughts on misanthropy? If you only hate humanity, you're obviously ignoring or not comprehending things that are central to understanding them and yourself. But not hating humanity is equivalent to having no sense of repulsion, no understanding of ethical and moral fallacy -- it's ridiculous. Love and Hate are needed if you wish to savor the most interesting parts of human beings, and I would hope that I can possess both in due amounts. Misanthropy bad. Reasonable passion good.
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theYchromosome wrote:

Yeah, I definitely hate people. But technically speaking, I also love them. There are things (in my experience) in all people that I like, and things that I don't like. Even Hiter's... ahem... industrious?... spirit can be admired, even if it was carried out repulsively. Being a human means simultaneously carrying and interacting with the darkest, most dreadful, loveliest, most beautiful parts of existence. Ignoring the bad things in people is as destructive to your inherent humanity as ignoring the good things.

In short, I hate my family, friends, coworkers, the human population, and probably most centrally myself (I happen to know all the best and most despicable parts of myself better than possibly anyone else) -- and simultaneously feel a great love and need for them, and I don't think that's contradictory at all.

So, my thoughts on misanthropy? If you only hate humanity, you're obviously ignoring or not comprehending things that are central to understanding them and yourself. But not hating humanity is equivalent to having no sense of repulsion, no understanding of ethical and moral fallacy -- it's ridiculous. Love and Hate are needed if you wish to savor the most interesting parts of human beings, and I would hope that I can possess both in due amounts. Misanthropy bad. Reasonable passion good.


Makes sense. Is it like saying "lets take a look at what made you decide to hate humanity" or no?
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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
"Hate the crime not the person"

I hate hate ... I suppose what I really hate the improper expression of hate.
It is a rare person who learns to let go of these emotions.
I just read people who feel sorry for themselves, people who disdain misanthropes, and people who feel that the world is horrible and shouldn't exist.
Why?
You think hating the world is horrible? You think people who hate the world should not hate the world? Or maybe you think you're better than them. Seems to me as if you're doing exactly what they are. Pick a group and hate it. Ostracize them. Make them feel sorry for expressing their beliefs. Show that you hate them. Tell them that they're worthless, arrogant, and immature. Tell them that they're broken people, who are disgusting and terrible. Show us exactly what type of person you are.

You think people shouldn't have existed? Ignorance. There is always hope because hope comes from within. Look at yourself. Do you hate yourself? No? Why? Yes? Why? Have you ever experienced what you thought was pure altruism? Would you like to? Have you ever done something altruistic? And by that I mean truly altruistic. No good feelings. No "I helped that person." No way of expressing to somebody that you did something nice. Nobody will know, ever, outside of you and maybe them, that something good happened. Learn to let go of hate. Learn to love other people. Love everything. Love them when they're perfect, and when their flaws are repulsively obvious. While you're at it, extend those feeling out. Love everything. Don't condone everything. Bad things are Bad, but don't reject it. It is, you are. Existence and agency are wonderful. If I was pond scum, I would float on top of water. It would be pleasant. If I was an insect, I could fly. If I was a pig, I would loaf around until I nourish somebody. I don't ask that you want to be around people or be their friends, I don't even ask that you eliminate hate, I just ask that while you hate you think positively. Well, I also ask that you don't go round trying to hurt people like a lunatic, but then, most people understand how important agency is without people telling them.

Unfortunately, no matter how awesome I am, I cannot help people with poor self-esteem. I think most people use meds to deal with that. I'd say BELIEVE IN THE ME THAT BELIEVES IN YOU! You CAN have good self esteem, just be awesome and let everybody realize that they should worship you. And if they don't WHO CARES YOU'RE AMAZING.

So what are my views on misanthropy?
I have none. There's nothing wrong with hating the world, so long as you don't intend to force your beliefs on others, and there's nothing wrong with good old fashioned camaraderie, people who collaborate well end off better, because they can communicate their needs and desires better. I think that fairly often, people try to do good without fully knowing the consequences, and end up doing bad. However, I don't think that makes them intrinsically worse than any other person.
Posted 10/5/13 , edited 10/5/13
I used to be a misanthrope, but more than anything, I used to hate on myself pretty badly. Not to sound intentionally trite, but now it's all good. Even when thoughts pop up in my head again, they don't have the same force as they once did.
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Sometimes I think misanthropists are just projecting the aspects they loathe about themselves onto humanity as a whole. Other times I think that some people just need to feel better about themselves by coming up with bullshit reasons as to why they are superior to group A or group B.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


theYchromosome wrote:



Makes sense. Is it like saying "lets take a look at what made you decide to hate humanity" or no?


In a way. I'd say it's more like "lets take a look at what humanity is." What I'm saying is that the answer to the question should result in both love and hate. As an extreme example, consider a loving father that is also a murderer: What I'm saying is that, simultaneously, I hate the idea of murder and love the idea of a loving father, and thus, I have both love and hate for the man. Since I would contend that each individual has (usually lesser extremes of) admirable and despicable qualities, there are parts of each individual that I love and hate. Extend that to humanity and, as a whole, I feel both love and hate toward humanity. If a person hates humanity (or loves it, for that matter) he may have excellent reasons for doing so. But if he only hates (or loves) it, then he's ignoring a huge amount of what makes people human.

I think you're on the right track though. If someone says that he hates humanity, then I probably would take a look at why that is. If he hates it, then he thinks that it's bad. If he thinks there is such a thing as "bad" then he probably also has a definition of "good." Once we look at why he thinks humanity is bad, we can point out that there is also good, and that if "bad" things are worth hating, then "good" things are worth loving. And if there actually are good things (you'd need to have a pretty strange definition of "good" otherwise) then it's clear that humanity should be loved and hated. And then I simply reverse the process if someone only loves humanity.
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Recognizing the evil within human nature is a milestone in growing up.

I've heard it said that a pessimist is just an optimist with experience. That seems pretty accurate to me. Anyone who DOESN'T show a little contempt for humanity is still a child who has yet to lean better.
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I think it depends for me. I tend to feel more negative towards people in general, but that's just due to my own observations and issues I think. I'm not all, "Oh, humans are so evil and awful and disgusting." I'm a bit more realistic, and think more, "Humans CAN be evil and bad, but they can also be really good and kind."

I always try to maintain a balance.
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To examine whether humanity is evil or not, examine humanity's treatment of non-human animals.

Every day I learn of new disgusting ways in which humanity enslaves and tortures innocent animals. The scale of suffering caused here is staggering.
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I suspect misanthropy stems from a lack of self-confidence. People can claim to be misanthropic, citing that they feel rejected by and dislike for "society" while often feeling accepted by specific people in their lives, such as close friends or family. This indicates to me that their problem is internal since it's their notion of society or "people in general" - the "people aside from those I feel accepted by" - with which they have a problem.
Misanthropy is merely the mark of an unconfident person who feels at-odds with people they haven't yet considered trustworthy. It's a bad trait, through-and-through.
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I wouldn't go as far as hate humanity, it is more of a strong dislike of it. My reasons are that i find it difficult to trust in people because i see human nature as being to self absorbed. By nature we are sociable creatures and like pokemon the more friends you have the better you feel about yourself. You see it all the time at schools increasing as the grades do. It's all a matter of appearance, have a ton of friends you don't even know just so you wont be signaled out as being a loner. Because obviously going to a movie by yourself means there is something wrong with you and that's why you cant make friends. People tend to be more concerned with what the majority as a whole think of them as opposed to the minority whose opinion should be the one that matters. It is a sad day when being different is considered bad and originality leads to being shunned by others. Personally i prefer a small group of close friends as opposed to a swarm of strangers.
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Misanthropy is described as an intense disliking or distrust of humans.
I'm the latter.
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