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Posted 12/9/13
could and can watch ep1 of kill la kill, but not the rest. Sucks abit tbh ( sweden here )
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Totally agree with gangetz, There has been countless times where I've tried to watch a show only to be told that its not available to UK subscribers, We don't even get One Piece either which was a bit of a gut punch, this is making me question my subbing in the future if this trend is going to continue.
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Interesting...

Personally, I have renewed my CR subscription, just "augmenting" the catalogue via other means. But I really can see a lot of UK subscribers dropping their paid subscriptions if the UK list doesn't reach a better parity with the US one.

We may get a good quantity of licenses here, but it always seem to be the more anticipated ones that get frozen out. And I suspect CR may start to find their UK paid subscribers dropping off if they don't get UK rights for as close to everything as they can. And if it is down to price (whether asking price or getting outbid by other services) then I really hope they are looking at both the short-term and longer-term ramifications of their UK userbase dropping off.

And I doubt it would be supplemented too much by ad revenue, either. As you won't get any ad views if they don't have the shows people actually want to watch. At least for one or two seasons, they need to get those UK rights locked down to keep hold of both subscription funds and people's good will.
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Posted 12/9/13

jasonvorheas24 wrote:

hmmm would a show like Kill la Kill do well in the middle east? I mean I know they don't take nudity that lightly. Maybe it depends on what country i guess.



I'm pretty sure you could get stoned to death for watching a show like KLK in most middle east countries.
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Posted 12/9/13
UK resident here, umm … where's Kill la Kill?
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Posted 12/10/13
TTGL would be nice.
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I can't find Magi.
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Posted 12/10/13

Chriscendo wrote:

UK resident here, umm … where's Kill la Kill?

As noted in the announcement, UK is one of the exceptions to the EU expansion.

The series is available to UK residents for legal streaming at:
http://www.wakanim.co.uk/catalogue




azizborashed wrote:

I can't find Magi.

Are you in North America, South America, or South Africa? If not, CR wasn't able to license it for your region. The license expansion only applied to Kill la Kill.

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TheAncientOne wrote:


Chriscendo wrote:

UK resident here, umm … where's Kill la Kill?

As noted in the announcement, UK is one of the exceptions to the EU expansion.

The series is available to UK residents for legal streaming at:
http://www.wakanim.co.uk/catalogue



I just checked that site an they charge you £0.79 for a 30 day rental of episode 1, not worth it when I'm already paying £40 a year to crunchyroll.
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About the only thing I can suggest is that if people would really rather see it on CR, that they go to Anime Limited's website (http://www.alltheanime.com/ - as they are Wakanim's partner for licensing content in the UK) and contact them to politely ask if they'd ever sub/co-license to CrunchyRoll as well.
And state that CR's subscription method is your preferred viewing option and that Wakanim's just doesn't suit your viewing habits.

Granted, there's no guarantee that anything would change, but if people do give them feedback they'll get a better idea of how many people would be interested in watching through other venues. And maybe this would at least affect future licenses. ("As well as Wakanim" rather than "Instead of", hopefully)

Currently, I think I'm the only person banging the drum on their social media presence, and they're probably living in dread of seeing my user avatar. ;-)
But, unless more people give them feedback, they will have no real idea as to if it's just me, a small handful of people or a significant chunk of potential viewers who are currently being lost who could potentially at least be giving some sort of revenue via a CR sublicense.
As opposed to grabbing fansubs or avoiding shows, which is lost revenue either way.
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are you fucking kidding me Australia but not the uk we get jack shit here in the uk
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Oh dear. Well, it seems that people really aren't happy with this whole situation. Heck, even people who are watching the show on Wakanim have said (on other forums, too) that they'd still rather be watching it on Crunchyroll.
And I'm sure I'm not the only person who it watching by less-than-official means as the easiest method to watch on my TV. Yet I know full well I'd rather be watching legit, and a damned site more conveniently, via the CR apps.

Since February at least (as I wasn't a member before, and cannot comment on how people were acting prior to that) it has become clear to me that people in the UK - and other regions - are getting increasingly annoyed at getting the more high profile titles not avilaable outside of teh US. And, as I've mentioned before, I don't think CR can really afford to let this go on too long. They need to have as many of the higher profile shows as possible available in pretty much all regions, especially but not only here in the UK, or risk backlash and loss of subscribers.
Sure, it won't be an immediate loss. But I do see it as being an increasing trend that is just about at the tipping point where going all-out for a couple of seasons could soothe a whole lot of attitudes.

I also think they need to do everything they can to ensure that Anime Limited allow them to at the very least add it to the back catalogue. People want it on here, and i cannot see that changing.

Many don't know Wakanim exists. Many that do, really don't care. All they see is Another Crunchyroll Show Blocked From The UK Subscription. They have to counter this as I suspect people's patience is pretty much at snapping point. (POssibly an understatement, given some of the language and attitude in this thread)
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Posted 12/10/13

netrik wrote:

I just checked that site an they charge you £0.79 for a 30 day rental of episode 1, not worth it when I'm already paying £40 a year to crunchyroll.

From their "How it works" section:

Free version as a stream/download:
Available immediately and for 30 days after the first broadcast. Afterwards the episode will only be available to Premium members or during special offers. Episodes downloaded for free can only be viewed for 4 days from the time the ad was seen.
The free episode is only temporarily available so that the videos can be used on other platforms.

On the main page, if you look under the image for Kill la Kill episode 10, you would note it states, "Free until 07/01/2014". (For those in the US reading this, that is January 7, 2014, not July 1, 2014).

If you had been watching since the series started, you wouldn't have had to pay a dime.

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I think the problem there is that people are still only just learning the site exists. So picking up from Episode One requires a per-episode charge, which isn't going to go down well for anyone still simple searching for a free (or, at least, flat-fee) and legal way of watching owing to the lack of CR UK rights.

At this point, I think even the "two month lag" to view on CR would go down better.

Unfortunately for Crunchyroll, I think that the one thing that they need to do for maximum UK subscriber appeasement (show Kill la Kill in the UK) is the one thing they are unable to do.

But I maintain that, going forward, they simply cannot afford to let the next few seasons' worth of highly anticipated shows slip away from them. And although I don't know for certain how other often-excluded territories feel, I suspect that the situation would be similar in those places as well.
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I would love to have watched Kill La Kill on Crunchy Roll, but as a UK resident that is not possible. I refuse to pay per episode on Wakanim (prior to this i didn't even know it existed) while maintaining a CR membership. Its not as if its impossible to gain access to (through less legitimate portals), and i wasn't going to wait for CR to get hold of the UK licences (if at all). I'd sooner watch it now and buy it when the series is released on DVD / BR. I'd recommend that other UK residents do something similar. If you enjoy the series then make sure you purchase a copy when / if its released.

Its incredibly annoying when the UK gets shafted with these licensing issues.
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