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Posted 9/27/13 , edited 9/27/13
I love AoT because:

-Finally, no stupid fan service
-Love the plot so far
-People actually die and like, all the time. Not everyone makes it to the end
-Not another typical shounen story!!!!++++++++++++++
-Love the characters and their designs, especially the females. Far and away from the usual moe stuff. They actually look different from each other outside of just their hair, especially characters like Hanji, Ymir, and Annie.
-SASHA

You know what I love most of all? The uniforms. No silly frills on the female ones to make them dress-like for no damn reason. They wear the same thing as the males in combat, it's practical, more realistic, and basically not stupid.

Long story short: it's an anime that I can show to non-anime fans because they actually like it, since it's free of most of the usual silly Japanese cliches and tropes.

That being said, it's not perfect. There are points of execution in the story and what not that I think could be better, more focus on individual characters in the anime, etc. The titans themselves also make me laugh sometimes because of their comical designs...to paraphrase a friend of mine, Japanese horror looks like comedy to her a lot of times.

But anyway, by and far, this show got me interested in anime again.
Posted 9/27/13 , edited 9/27/13

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Im actually surprised at the amount of "meh" or negative responses to this show. I do NOT watch a lot of anime because I feel a lot of it has shallow or uninteresting storylines (to me, simply being in a highschool setting with cute/goofy lolitas/children is not entertaining). I prefer unique and emotional storylines.

AoT takes hold of your heart and does not let go. Yes, sometimes it is "slow," (lack of pure action/battle scenes) but often in these moments we see more character development and interaction, it lets us see why they act the way they do, their morals, laws, internal demons, and friendships.

It is a "masterpiece" in my opinion, for its showing of humanity. Humanity's struggle to survive in a terribly scary world. Humanity's sacrifice for others (the soldiers), the greed, corruption of those who live in "safety" inside the innermost walls.

Not to mention the graphics and soundtrack are both soaring and beautiful!

What more do you people want?



This is another key reason I love AoT, and why I think a lot of people who don't usually follow anime enjoy it as well, because it's not in a damn high school. I'm sick of high schools and school uniforms ad nauseum And because the display of humanity and what not is more relatable to people as a whole, not another batch of "This week, we will use side character A to explain the main character's power and his opponent's...oh wait, that wasn't his final form."

That's why it's so ridiculously popular as a whole, because it's something different for once.
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I really love watching Attack On Titan and I don't want it to end, but I'll just have to wait for the next season now. But I really think it will stay as amazing as it is now! Attack On Titan
Especially watching Eren turn into a titan that will scare the wits out of you...Also make a great thing to show your siblings so they are scared now...It would be funny to watch. I wish Mikasa would turn into a titan she'd be scary!


Turning into a titan... Now there's a party trick.
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merahk wrote:
I love AoT because:

-Finally, no stupid fan service


Finally? Ignoring the issue of extreme gory violence being a form of fanservice... Just from looking at my queue for this season: Eccentric Family, Senyuu, and Love Lab all had absolutely no fanservice, i.e. no girls or guys in skimpy clothing. Several others had only minimal amounts and/or integrated it into the story. It's not really such a hard thing to avoid.

As for the show being "something different," that depends on what you mean. It's different from most anime, but bears many similarities to American action movies and zombie apocalypse movies, plus Kaiju; like "World War Pacific Rim Z: The Anime" or something. It's probably more of a novelty in Japan than it is here.

There's nothing wrong with any of that, but I think the main reason I don't really like AoT is because I'm bored of the action-war-movie tropes this show is filled with, in much the same way that this show's fans are bored of typical anime-ness.
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Uhm what do you mean its almost over?! I'm guessing your talking about season2 but judging from the success and how much is still left of the manga (which is still on-going) it is far from over..
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merahk wrote:
I love AoT because:

-Finally, no stupid fan service


Finally? Ignoring the issue of extreme gory violence being a form of fanservice... Just from looking at my queue for this season: Eccentric Family, Senyuu, and Love Lab all had absolutely no fanservice, i.e. no girls or guys in skimpy clothing. Several others had only minimal amounts and/or integrated it into the story. It's not really such a hard thing to avoid.

As for the show being "something different," that depends on what you mean. It's different from most anime, but bears many similarities to American action movies and zombie apocalypse movies, plus Kaiju; like "World War Pacific Rim Z: The Anime" or something. It's probably more of a novelty in Japan than it is here.

There's nothing wrong with any of that, but I think the main reason I don't really like AoT is because I'm bored of the action-war-movie tropes this show is filled with, in much the same way that this show's fans are bored of typical anime-ness.


I don't think you can qualify 'gory violence' as a usual definition of 'fan service'. To be honest, I've never seen the term used in that context, especially in anime. It pretty much broadly means using/showing sexual content for not much reason other than pleasure/bait on a hook, where the absence of it would have no affect on the plot, story, or character. Otherwise you can just go about saying that nothing out there has fan service, because you can just keep changing what it refers to.

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I love Attack on Titan. I also find it funny that most of the people in the opening theme song are always ending up dead.
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Posted 9/28/13

merahk wrote:

I don't think you can qualify 'gory violence' as a usual definition of 'fan service'. To be honest, I've never seen the term used in that context, especially in anime. It pretty much broadly means using/showing sexual content for not much reason other than pleasure/bait on a hook, where the absence of it would have no affect on the plot, story, or character. Otherwise you can just go about saying that nothing out there has fan service, because you can just keep changing what it refers to.


While "fanservice" typically brings to mind sexual titillation, the original meaning was anything meant to please the fans that did not contribute the plot. One of the examples I like to use is the fly-around of the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

As to the gore, I've seen some people refer to it as "gorn" or "gore porn".

All this implies that it is unnecessary, while I would argue that in AoT is contributes to the plot, as it shows the harsh reality of that world.

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I saw a bit of the first episode and was slightly interested in it... There's something about the art style and the way it's animated that hurts my eyes for some reason. :S

I mainly haven't watched it yet because:
1.) I can't stand the anxiety of watching simulcasts on a week-to-week basis
2.) I have a friend who only talks about AOT and bombards me with it every time we talk about anime
3.) I'm certainly not a hipster, but it's annoying when something gets this overhyped. I hate having it thrown in my face when I'm just too preoccupied watching other anime that I'm just more interested in. It's people shoving their opinions down my throat that turns me off.

aaaand...
4.) It's not the best thing ever. Similar to overhyping it, I suppose. I've already seen the "best thing ever" for ME (Eureka 7 Psalms of Planets), so it's hard for me to get excited about an intense, action anime.

I will give it a go at some point. But I'm waiting until everyone I know stops throwing it at my face every time I blink my eyes.
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You people have some problems Complaining about titan and power ups and stuff it just stupid if you don't like the show we get it but don't be like Hey this show sucks it's slow horrible boring don't watch it's your opinion that no one gives a crap about in my opinion the show is great epic it is not slow just cause they took 9 episodes on a battle your saying it's slow that's not slow there's a difference between a fight and a battle battles take a while your acting like you just wanted then to fix everything in 2 mins the pacing is great the animation is great the plot is great the fight scenes are great the gore and violence is great for people who like you might not like people getting eaten alive by giant monsters but you don't have to make all these excuces like it's boring when no one cares your making people not want to watch it when it a great anime Just cause you don't like it dosn't mean you have to tell everyone not to like it and watch it
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Lol. Everyone's such a critic these days. smh. Honestly, as many people have already said, at the end of the day it all boils down to YOUR opinion. Which in all honestly does not matter significantly from the next person's opinion. This show is popular for a reason. Don't like it? Oh well. Get over it. It is what it is. People aren't going to be blown away by everything. People have different tastes. But to insult someone because they don't like it, or to call someone a moron for liking it and thinking it's one of the best series that they've seen is just very ignorant. Some of you self proclaimed high thinking intellectuals need to take a good look at yourselves and honestly maybe grow up a little bit too. You're getting so bent out over a piece of fiction...Really? I understand you may be a hardcore anime fan and are very critical about what you watch or whatever, but just calm down. At the end of the day, NONE OF THIS IS REAL. lol. Idk. Maybe that's just me. I don't mind a debate, but when you start going so overboard to the point where you're just blindly insulting people because they have an opinion that they are entitled to, that really grinds my gears.

Now then, onto the general topic. While I won't go and say AOT is the best anime of all time, I do firmly believe it's one of the best anime i personally have ever seen. It's a shounen but to me it doesn't really feel so much like one, though it has some shounen characteristics. It has a very gritty and serious tone, which I love i guess because that's the base of my personality. I had heard a lot about it from multiple sources on the web and that it was good, so i figured, what the heck. Might as well go see what all the fuss is about. Watched the first episode and was hooked ever since. What really got me was just how Isayama was able to portray real life emotions into the characters. You really get that sense of terror and fear that exists within his world. And it's very realistic. I know some people say that the fear factor thing is just overplayed, but come on. Seriously, you have to look at the circumstances and events of the story. Humanity has been drastically reduced and are now outnumbered by 2-3 story, hungry, terrifying, walking, man-eating giants who feast on people just because they can. And that is a constant threat. Not only that, but their precious realm of sanction within the walls has been breached, which now really puts everyone on edge. So ofcourse the fear factor is gonna be constant. People are worried about whether or not they're still gonna be alive.
As for the characters, there's not one I really dislike. Sure it may not have the strongest character development i've ever seen, but it's still pretty good in my eyes. Eren isn't the flashiest Main character out there, but I think his personality is pretty realistic. And you have to also take into consideration that eren is still growing as a person. Right now, he does have an issue with controlling his emotions, but he is very capable when he thinks things through. And if you haven't read the manga yet, you'll see what I mean. He's just very driven by his passion to exterminate all of the titans and free humanity from the cage that they've been trapped in for who knows how long. I really don't have a problem with the pacing either. I think it's pretty great. Seriously, why do you want things to end so quickly? If it's something good, I'd like to enjoy it a little longer. I hate things that end too fast or are rushed. The only slight gripe I had was how long it took for eren to plug the whole in the wall in the battle of trost. But the way I look at it, it's understandable for me. Everything doesn't always flow smoothly and perfectly, as is the case with real life. But it doesn't mean that you can't overcome even the most difficult of challenges. All in all, I think AOT is a very solid show and I honestly think it deserves the hype it's gotten. It's popular for the right reasons. It's very good quality, and I would recommend it to anybody who would be interested. Also, let me take a moment to say how much I really appreciate the sound track. God the OST is just amazing. Hiroyuki Sawano is really a genius. Being someone who produces music myself, I can really appreciate the quality of the soundtrack. It honestly fits the show perfectly.
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lol all the haters. Keep watching your cheezy coloful, happy go getting, dry funny, cliches. I'll stick with AoT.
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Brilliant! Thank you for posting these reviews keikawa! it was super helpful for me to read these and so I understand WHY I love Shingeki so much... and kudos to Eclipsed_Oblivion for not only praising the series, but more importantly point out a flaw. I couldn't quite put my finger on why some episodes didn't sit quite well for me in relation to other episodes. It was the pacing!!!! XD
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vglan-funman wrote:


Vin_Howard wrote:


vglan-funman wrote:


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You put it perfectly. Eren's "death" didn't advance the series in any shape or way. (Him gaining his titan powers are separate from his "death" from a writing construction standpoint)

Also, what I mean by shounen battle manga philosophy:

1. Have the main cast face an enemy that is insanely op compared to them (after barely defeating a new enemy, it is always revealed that this new enemy is just the weakest of his group, and that the others are 10x stronger)

2. SHOUT FOR THE SAKE OF SHOUTING

3. Add as much of useless lines and scenes. While a major rule of writing is only to include what is absolutely necessary for the story, here toy should break that rule and pad your story as much as possible

4. Give your character some op power to fight his enemies, but make it difficult to control; this will allow you to pad your story with a a bunch of drama about the "uncertainty" of the power, while making sure it always works out in the end

5. Add as much drama and suspense as possible. It doesn't matter if it makes your story shallow, this is a MUST. I cannot stress how vitally important this is, as this is the very essence of a popular shonen series!

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On a side note, as the series is coming to a close soon, I have decided to start examining the "Writer's spirit." What I mean by this is that I examining the story, the various elements, the charters, how the story was constructed, I try to read the soul that the writer breaths into his story (even the worst of stories can have a strong "soul").

While I haven't finished yet (it involves a LOT of thinking), I have discovered something interesting. I think the writer was honestly trying to construct a really well made world. You can really see the amount of detail given to the initial story. But probably due to lack of skill, the writer reverted to the shallow shounen philosophy when it came to writing the meat of the story. In the end, AoT might have been a really great epic, something along the lines of Fate/Zero, but something that inevitably feel into mediocrity due to the writer's lack of skill.


>Pretty sure Eren getting eaten by the Titan, therefore awakening his Titan powers is advancing the series dude. They're interconnected; you can't have one without mentioning the other.

>Your shonen points:
1. This is a point in a lot of manga, not only shonen, but seinen, shojo, slice of life etc. It's all about the characters meeting new obstacles and being able to overcome said obstacles. Don't really see how this is a flaw...at all...

2. I would understand this point if not for the fact that AoT's story calls for it on many occasions, whether rallying the troops or a character giving himself the courage to go on in the midst of all the adversity.

3. And your points fail again. Most of the lines in the series either serve to give us background on the character's, highlight some of the current plot points, or tell us of future plot points to come. Unless you can actually find evidence of this (you've really struggled in this department bruh), then fail. Again.

4. Again, how is this point exactly bad? If Eren knew how to control his powers, even more haters and detractors would arrive and claim that "Eren is OP" and other nonsense like that. It's a no win situation apparently, so why not go with the path that'll dish out the least amount of damage (if the damage is even existent in the first damned place).

5. Since when does including drama and suspense in a series = flaw? Especially when one of the genres of the series is "Drama". Cmon son.

Thanks for proving that, again, most AoT haters and their arguments have no pounds, kilos, weight whatsoever.



1. I mean op super villain that the heroes have no way of defeating, but still always beat in the end, usually with surprising ease (oh look, the best of the best just got whipped out by the Titans; we have no way of winning; few episodes later: yay, we retook the town, we only lost some faceless number that was just thrown out there with no real consideration; oh look, that female titan just murder the VERY VERY best like it was the easiest thing; next episode: look at the rookie really messing with that same female Titan like it was the easiest thing in the world, and lets watch as the other guy solo r*pes her with moves impossible in reality)

2. Well I guess I will give you this point. But I still feel it is being used more than justifiable.

3. As a matter of fact: https://plus.google.com/113581974701996236770/posts/KJttaZ3EMSK

4. You fail to see my point. I am saying the power itself is a shounen battle manga tactic.

5. "Drama is life with the dull bits cut out" - Alfred Hitchcock. There is both good drama and bad drama. Good drama is used to create a deep, riveting, relatable story. Bad drama, the type I am talking about, is used only for the sake of engaging the audience's attention. It is shallow, and serves no benefit except for attracting a casual crowd that either doesn't care or doesn't know what a good story is, aka it is great for making a cash cow but at the same time undermines the quality of the writing.

PS, can you PLEASE actually think about what I am typing instead of just skimming over it and then thinking of what you think is a smart comeback. Yes, if we were writing an outline of the plot of AoT, Eren's death and him gaining his power have a lot to do with each other. But I am *NOT* talking about a plot outline, I am talking about the various elements of the story and how they influence the meat of the story. If you cannot comprehend this simple difference, then it will be impossible for me to show what is wrong with AoT in the same way that it would be impossible to show that 2+ does not equal 3 to someone who doesn't understand matchamatics.


1. And again it goes back to conquering a goal and moving past an obstacle. If you can't see that this is, in slightly different forms but still there nonetheless, in nearly EVERY modern anime/manga/show (and not even modern, period) then go back and reevaluate.

3. I said, "anything that is useless". Every bit of dialogue in those pictures were used to either convey confusion by the lower members, frustration and panic from the higher members, etc. My point still stands.

4. And I just said a while ago that just because the series uses a few shonen tactics doesn't make it bad. Wow. Again.

5. And this is where this convo ends, I'm afraid. I know that you feel that AoT is the latter of the drama's but in truth this portion is all subjective. I could even rebut with the fact that many fans feel relatability to Eren and the rest of humanities cause.

6. Still not getting that Eren's death essentially IS Eren's transformation? Still not getting that they can be seen as singular and pushed the plot ahead in a very BIG way? Cmon son, you're not even trying anymore. (And did you happen to think that thinking time for others varies from person to person? Hence why I can read what you posted, comprehend the nonsense of what you posted and combat it appropriately).



And that where I end my conversation with you. You obvious lack the intellectual capacity to understand what I am saying. At this point, me trying to explain the workings of AoT storytelling would be like trying to explain advanced mathematics to someone who can't even comprehend something as simple as 2+2=4. And here I was hoping for a good debate :/



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You sure your 20? The bulletproof Imm smart and right neener neener approach is something usually reserved for 16 year olds or US Congress
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