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Posted 9/28/13

denniszhiweng wrote:

no kuroko

I wouldn't be surprised if they wait until the middle of next week (possibly as late as Thursday) to announce it.

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denniszhiweng wrote:

no kuroko

I wouldn't be surprised if they wait until the middle of next week (possibly as late as Thursday) to announce it.



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Posted 9/28/13

denniszhiweng wrote: no kuroko

There's a week before it premiers, so there's no hurry on the announcement.
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agila61 wrote:


denniszhiweng wrote: no kuroko

There's a week before it premiers, so there's no hurry on the announcement.


yeah..but still hope that will get announce soon
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Yet more shows which aren't available in the UK. This is the worst season in a long time for UK subscribers.

CR owe us an explanation, and an apology. Of course in reality, we will get neither.
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Yet more shows which aren't available in the UK. This is the worst season in a long time for UK subscribers.

CR owe us an explanation, and an apology. Of course in reality, we will get neither.

One of the four shows announced isn't available to the UK. Somehow I doubt you are really that upset about Meganebu!.

If CR explained, I doubt you would accept their explanation. They also don't owe any apology if they are licensing what they can (which I am confident they are, something you've made clear you don't believe). Your real issue seems to be that CR isn't doing business they way you think they should.

As I pointed out before, if you don't believe CR is delivering sufficient value for the money, you always have the option to unsubscribe.



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Posted 9/29/13

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mendo_shutaro wrote:

Yet more shows which aren't available in the UK. This is the worst season in a long time for UK subscribers.

CR owe us an explanation, and an apology. Of course in reality, we will get neither.

One of the four shows announced isn't available to the UK. Somehow I doubt you are really that upset about Meganebu!.

If CR explained, I doubt you would accept their explanation. They also don't owe any apology if they are licensing what they can (which I am confident they are, something you've made clear you don't believe). Your real issue seems to be that CR isn't doing business they way you think they should.

As I pointed out before, if you don't believe CR is delivering sufficient value for the money, you always have the option to unsubscribe.





Oh what utter nonsense. Of the 12 shows announced so far this season, 5 aren't available in the UK. That's only 60% of shows available here. Given that others have been ballyhooing figures of 90% as the average for the UK, it's clear why people are upset with CR's performance this season.

As for going elsewhere... where to exactly? CR is the only game in town, and I believe there's a word to describe that.

Staying legal is nice, but with a farce like this, what would *you* do?

So please, would you and the rest of the CR defence league, FOR ONCE, accept that CR have dropped the ball.
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Oh what utter nonsense. Of the 12 shows announced so far this season, 5 aren't available in the UK. That's only 60% of shows available here. Given that others have been ballyhooing figures of 90% as the average for the UK, it's clear why people are upset with CR's performance this season.

As for going elsewhere... where to exactly? CR is the only game in town, and I believe there's a word to describe that.

Staying legal is nice, but with a farce like this, what would *you* do?

So please, would you and the rest of the CR defence league, FOR ONCE, accept that CR have dropped the ball.

I was replying to your comment "Yet more shows which aren't available in the UK". Any reasonable person would take that as meaning the 4 shows that were announced Saturday. 1 of 4 isn't even "shows", but you couldn't resist the urge to exaggerate.

Also, take note of "announced so far". The announcements are far from over, but I doubt you'll be back to acknowledge that figure again if it rises from 60% (which I expect it will).


Even without a subscription, you could still watch the shows on CR (just a week later, and in 360p), so no problem staying "legal". Of course then, you'd have little platform to complain from since you'd be "paying" the same price per episode as someone in the United States.

What would I do? Exactly what I recommended: If I didn't think it was worth the money, I wouldn't subscribe. It would be akin to if my ISP charged the same price in two locations, but another location got twice the speed for the money. Complaining wouldn't change anything if there were reasons behind that (something you don't accept is the case with CR), so my options would be either to pay for it or drop it.


Why don't you for once drop complaining about something that isn't going to change, simply because you complain about it?


Frankly, it would be nice if you could be shifted in an alternate universe where CR was a North American only operation (like Funimation, TAN, Viz, and Hulu), and you could see the reality of CR getting "out of the way" as you suggested before. That would at least shatter your illusions that someone else would do a better job for the UK and Europe.

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Posted 9/29/13

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mendo_shutaro wrote:

Oh what utter nonsense. Of the 12 shows announced so far this season, 5 aren't available in the UK. That's only 60% of shows available here. Given that others have been ballyhooing figures of 90% as the average for the UK, it's clear why people are upset with CR's performance this season.

As for going elsewhere... where to exactly? CR is the only game in town, and I believe there's a word to describe that.

Staying legal is nice, but with a farce like this, what would *you* do?

So please, would you and the rest of the CR defence league, FOR ONCE, accept that CR have dropped the ball.

I was replying to your comment "Yet more shows which aren't available in the UK". Any reasonable person would take that as meaning the 4 shows that were announced Saturday. 1 of 4 isn't even "shows", but you couldn't resist the urge to exaggerate.

Also, take note of "announced so far". The announcements are far from over, but I doubt you'll be back to acknowledge that figure again if it rises from 60% (which I expect it will).


Even without a subscription, you could still watch the shows on CR (just a week later, and in 360p), so no problem staying "legal". Of course then, you'd have little platform to complain from since you'd be "paying" the same price per episode as someone in the United States.

What would I do? Exactly what I recommended: If I didn't think it was worth the money, I wouldn't subscribe. It would be akin to if my ISP charged the same price in two locations, but another location got twice the speed for the money. Complaining wouldn't change anything if there were reasons behind that (something you don't accept is the case with CR), so my options would be either to pay for it or drop it.


Why don't you for once drop complaining about something that isn't going to change, simply because you complain about it?


Frankly, it would be nice if you could be shifted in an alternate universe where CR was a North American only operation (like Funimation, TAN, Viz, and Hulu), and you could see the reality of CR getting "out of the way" as you suggested before. That would at least shatter your illusions that someone else would do a better job for the UK and Europe.



You guys really make no sense any more. Any last remaining semblance of reasoned, evidence based argument is long gone.

Why on earth would I say "yet more shows" and be referring to the latest four announcements exclusively. That would be utterly illogical and frankly pointless. Maybe you missed what time of year it is?

The 60% figure is the lowest percentage of UK licenses in a long time. Maybe it will rise, who knows, but even if it does, the biggest show of the season will remain unavailable.

Your next point, if I can even call it that, simply makes no sense on any level. How will watching free 360p streams help in any possible way? Will it make all those region locked shows suddenly become unlocked? I suspect not.

If people don't complain, and you might have noticed that I'm far from the only one, then companies which are failing to meet customer expectations will continue in blissful ignorance. As CR have what is essentially a monopoly on anime streaming, it's kind of important that they get their act together. Or, as I've said numerous times, they just put what little remains of their dying UK operation out of it's misery. The gap will be filled, one way or another.

So please, give up defending the indefensible.
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no announcement today???
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Posted 9/29/13 , edited 9/29/13

denniszhiweng wrote: no announcement today???


Doesn't look like it. But then, announcements are normally Monday through Friday ~ yesterday was a special case because they were at a Convention and so they included these four announcements to increase the buzz about their panel.


mendo_shutaro wrote: Why on earth would I say "yet more shows" and be referring to the latest four announcements exclusively.

Because that's what the words mean. You got caught exaggerating, and so are trying to play word games to pretend that the words you said don't mean what they mean.

If I said, "Yet more moe shows" in the commentary to an announcement, the implication would obviously be that there were two or more shows in the announcement that I thought of as "moe" shows.

The most recent announcement before you wrote that comment was four new shows, 3 to the UK and 1 to North American only. If you meant the two shows in this thread, you would have indicated that in your comment ... otherwise "Yet more" normally means a reaction to what just happened.


mendo_shutaro wrote: your next point, if I can even call it that, simply makes no sense on any level. How will watching free 360p streams help in any possible way? Will it make all those region locked shows suddenly become unlocked? I suspect not.

The next point already answered the question you asked, before you asked it: watching the free streams would eliminate the basis of your complaint: pay zero, and then there is not reason to complain about the more limited access. Indeed, you wouldn't lose any access by dropping your subscription and watching the free streams, because the "premium ex-Japan" and "premium ex-Asia" series are free streaming in the UK.

No matter how loudly you whinge on Crunchyroll forums, the fact will remain that the same subscription fee per UK subscriber doesn't carry the same clout with licensors, because there are fewer total UK subscribers so its a smaller pile of total money.

But you might be able to do some good if you complained to MangaUK, since a package deal with MangaUK would let Crunchyroll stream series to the UK that they cannot stream to the US, which would balance out the access.
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Posted 9/29/13 , edited 9/29/13

mendo_shutaro wrote:

Your next point, if I can even call it that, simply makes no sense on any level. How will watching free 360p streams help in any possible way? Will it make all those region locked shows suddenly become unlocked? I suspect not.

Your earlier complaint was about paying the same for less shows. This addresses that.

I also note you never replied to a question I posed in another earlier message:

If CR pulled out of the UK (or all of Europe) and was, as you hope, replaced by another company, would you then complain if they charged the same as CR, but didn't have as many shows as CR does in the United States?



If people don't complain, and you might have noticed that I'm far from the only one, then companies which are failing to meet customer expectations will continue in blissful ignorance. As CR have what is essentially a monopoly on anime streaming, it's kind of important that they get their act together. Or, as I've said numerous times, they just put what little remains of their dying UK operation out of it's misery. The gap will be filled, one way or another.

Perhaps you should try complaining to the correct companies; the ones that can actually affect changes in the licensing, not the one that has to abide by those decisions.

I believe there was another earlier question you also ignored. If CR is the one "responsible" for Kill la Kill not being in the UK, then why is Daisuiki under the same restriction?



So please, give up defending the indefensible.

Just because you believe something does not make it a fact. Sorry (sarcasm intended) to disappoint you, but I certainly won't be obeying your request.

If you intend on waging your wrong-headed campaign against CR each time shows are announced, you should get used to being opposed.
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anyone know samurai flamenco is what time.. I know is 10.30 but is it morning or night in PDT?

Can pm me as I don't here...
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Much as I like a lot of what Anime Limited has been doing so far, this is earning them and unfortunate (and perhaps unfair) reputation.

'Cos so far, they're starting to come over as "The company stopping shows getting on CR UK".

People who primarily web-stream are happy enough, but anyone who uses a console/TV/mobile app to watch CR via subscription is getting annoyed on being unable to legally watch shows the way we usually do.
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