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Post Reply Let's talk about the downsides of Technology
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Nobodyofimportance wrote:

So the downside of technology is that it eliminates privacy, lets you look younger, and lets people be stupid.

.... Don't I feel silly.
How bout them cars that drive themselves, eh? Wave of the future. Get all the bad drivers off the road, reduce/eliminate traffic accidents, decrease transit time.
We do tech because tech does it better.
Medicine especially.


I'm not sure if this line was serious or sarcasm... there is probably going to be an equal risk of self-driving cars hitting a pedestrian; heat sensors could always fail unless they have a backup or whatever.


Heat sensors would be nice, but when it comes to hitting pedestrians, even current camera-only automated driving systems are far more reliable than a human. User error has long been proven to be far worse than anything automated, from the assembly line to vehicular traffic, people get tired, they get sloppy and it invariably leads to injury. Reaction time alone accounts for a vast number of collisions and driver-less cars would substantially reduce that issue as they react in a thousandth of a second in situations where humans take 2-3 seconds before even realizing they need to apply the brakes (for instance). Then there's the issue with drunk driving, the number of accidents from distraction, and the number of accidents from driver fatigue. Going by the actuary tables, the U.S. alone sees over fifty thousand traffic fatalities a year due specifically to the above listed issues, along with anywhere from a quarter to a third of a million major injuries ranging from brain damage, partial body burns and loss of limb. Top it off with the ability to sit in the back-seat and the vastly safer positioning that allows -- and presto, millions of lives saved every decade.

But aside from the personal injuries issue, it would remedy the issue of traffic jams. That alone would improve people's lives tremendously.
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The only weak point of technology is it's not advanced enough yet. I want the Matrix damn it. I'm sick of boring old real life.
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Playing with your phone while having a conversation with someone is terrible, I don't understand how two people can be sat in a Cafe together chatting and playing on their phones at the same time, It just screams out that you are bored of talking.

I rarely use my phone unless I'm in serious need of contacting someone, or I have to reply to someone, and never when someone is talking to me (unless it is an important phone call).

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Robot Taking over jobs

self check out, speed cam, self served machine, Toll money service when crossing bridge

increase in unemployment . companies don't want to deal with your BS so they will replace you with machine to avoid further BS/lawsuit


radioactive micro waves that travels through your bodies gives you cancer, so in a way they are killing us.
car pollution killing us...

we may look longer but we are also dying faster.

we arn't long for a world of machine or near matrix
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Well its killing conversation which sucks. If I'm comfortable with who I'm talking to I love conversing for hours on end and sharing ideas back in forth. While that can be done over the internet its just not the same. :/ That's my least favorite thing about modern technology
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GayAsianBoy
Yeah that's what I'm saying; trying to fix your physical appearance with unnatural means is sending the wrong message as a society to newer generations. The rate of people developing body image dysmorphia will increase because people can't accept that they're getting saggy and wrinkly.
But having said that, it's not like I can change anything, I'm only one person. And honestly, the modelling and film industry is already doing most of the damage.


While I do agree that society places too much emphasis on looks, and being in good shape, I think everyone agrees that if you CAN stay in shape, you should.
Likewise, I think everyone agrees that being saggy and old is not something one wants. Not just because it's (to many people) unattractive (even to those that ARE), but also because it reminds them of death. Reminds them that they're old. Which is depressing.
I know that I will fight to stay as young as I can for as long as I can. Because youth means a lot to me.






GayAsianBoy
Well, when it comes to longevity, the beauty/fake issue doesn't come into play. I suppose longevity is not about being fake, there's no negative response to lengthening someone's life through technology. I mean, getting a vaccine in newborns is not going to make someone feel bad about themselves.
I suppose when it comes to longevity through technology, a separate issue will arise, i.e. the issue of overpopulation due to people not dying.

This might make me sound cruel, but people are meant to die, life is meant to die, we're not meant to stay here for longer than we're supposed to... you have to make space for newer lifeforms.


Yeah well that's where we are polar opposite. I think that if we CAN achieve immortality, we should.
I don't give a crap about what we are "meant" to from a natural perspective. Nature's ways suck, and if I can move beyond it to something better, then I will surely do so.
Which is why I also have a largely positive view on the concept of transhumanism.

Even if that comes at the cost of other people not being born. I would gladly, without a second though, be castrated in order to achieve immortality. Even just biological immortality.


On the subject of transhumanism, though... what are your thoughts on that?
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As technology advances, humanity declines. Or as they say, phones get smarter, but the users get dumber. People become to wrapped up in technology that much of what use to be, becomes lost. People become more lazy, etc.
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Yes, let's discuss the downsides of technology.

Shovels. Think about all the lives that have been ruined because of the invention of the shovel.
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You don't get to listen to that 56k modem sound everytime you come here to post at CR. That's probably the biggest downside.
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I find that it disconnects us from real life at times. There isn't that glow of communication or friendship in REAL life that used to be there in my childhood. Simply going over to a friends house and ringing the doorbell, without any previous knowledge if they're actually able to come or not. Simply just calling and hearing each others voice as the main form of communication every now and then. Seeing your friends check their phones every few minutes, or missing chats due to listening to text's instead. I noticed things like this when I broke my phone and was without one for a while. I dunno, something along those lines since we're only listing the downsides. Call me an old timer, but I really miss the way when everything used to be so..."manual".... Mainly what LynnTerra said.
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The lack of real socialization is the biggest downside for me.
Face to face human interaction outside of work has to be declining at a ridiculous rate.
And when people DO get together, it becomes all about creating pictures so they can post it on facebook as if they're screaming "Hey look at me, I go out with people. Aren't I the coolest!?"

Meanwhile, their friends are all doing the same thing without a word spoken between them.

What a sad bubble of reality we live in.
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People are getting dumber.
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Syndicaidramon wrote:
While I do agree that society places too much emphasis on looks, and being in good shape, I think everyone agrees that if you CAN stay in shape, you should.
Likewise, I think everyone agrees that being saggy and old is not something one wants. Not just because it's (to many people) unattractive (even to those that ARE), but also because it reminds them of death. Reminds them that they're old. Which is depressing.
I know that I will fight to stay as young as I can for as long as I can. Because youth means a lot to me.


Why is it important for you?
Is it for self-satisfaction or something else? (curious questions, not trying to be rude)

People have been valuing youth since the early days of civilizations; but I feel like this search for the fountain of youth ideology has always stemmed from the want to impress others rather than an internal desire for youthful appearance. I mean, society has always valued youthful appearance over non-youth which is a natural thing as it appeases our natural sexual tastes.

I do value youth, but at the same time, I want to grow and see what I'll become. It's a curiosity. I don't want to look forever young. But I do appreciate youthful looking things, because it's a natural tendency I suppose...




Yeah well that's where we are polar opposite. I think that if we CAN achieve immortality, we should.
I don't give a crap about what we are "meant" to from a natural perspective. Nature's ways suck, and if I can move beyond it to something better, then I will surely do so.
Which is why I also have a largely positive view on the concept of transhumanism.

Even if that comes at the cost of other people not being born. I would gladly, without a second though, be castrated in order to achieve immortality. Even just biological immortality.


On the subject of transhumanism, though... what are your thoughts on that?


"Nature's ways suck"

Well I'm going to voice my opinion on the subject of transhumanism around this phrase of yours.

If you think about it, if it wasn't for the process of things dying and recreating, we would have never gotten this far. Natural Evolution only happens because new generations of species are born constantly.

I feel like this pursuit of immortality or life extensions is really... against the process of natural evolution.
In a way, we are artificially evolving ourselves to adapt to the environment by using technology that can improve our abilities beyond biological means.

However, I still believe natural evolution is way better than artificial evolution only because when there's a downside to something that nature has done, nature has a way of neutralizing that downside.

Imagine in a few hundred years, when artificial evolution takes place and people being having bionic arms and stuff, when there is a catastrophe, I doubt that we can neutralize that consequence.


Midnalink24 wrote:

I find that it disconnects us from real life at times. There isn't that glow of communication or friendship in REAL life that used to be there in my childhood. Simply going over to a friends house and ringing the doorbell, without any previous knowledge if they're actually able to come or not. Simply just calling and hearing each others voice as the main form of communication every now and then. Seeing your friends check their phones every few minutes, or missing chats due to listening to text's instead. I noticed things like this when I broke my phone and was without one for a while. I dunno, something along those lines since we're only listing the downsides. Call me an old timer, but I really miss the way when everything used to be so..."manual".... Mainly what LynnTerra said.


I agree with the sentiments of this reply.

I feel like even though we can get to the other side of the world in one day... it's fast, convenient and cheap... but it lacks excitement. I mean the excitement of a "journey" and not knowing what is on other other side of the world due to transportation technologies.
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Worst thing for me is walking into walls when I'm texting or surfing the web!
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Worst thing for me is walking into walls when I'm texting or surfing the web!


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you do realize half of the comments in this thread is talking about people like you, right?
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