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Now that Attack on Titan is over; and I'm coming to a close on Eyeshield 21; if Gunpla Fighters, Infinite Stratos 2, or BlazBlue: Alter Memory do not come to crunchy roll I will probably drop the service. There is no Gundam on crunchy roll so I won't hold my breath on that one and since Infinite Stratos is not on crunchy roll then Infinite Stratos 2 probably won't be.

What determines what shows do come to crunchy roll? I see they're getting 16 new shows; four yet to be named; but there are 57 shows premiering. 16 of 57 is quite a small fraction considering; so how did they pick the 16 out of those 57?
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SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
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money

To get a show here they have to license it.

plus the people who made the show have to be willing to license it.
Sometimes they sell it off to a bunch of different streaming sites, sometimes they do exclusive deals

Some companies refuse to license streaming at all (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure I think was one of those)

So it comes down to how much they ask for the license and how much CR is willing to spend.

Ok actually a lot more complicated than that but I think that's the basics.
CR seems to have some specific long running deals with one or two companies I think and some backing from some of the DVD distributors in the states

but ultimately it all comes back to money
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Greylurker wrote:

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One of CR's investors is TV Tokyo (http://www.crunchyroll.com/about), so it's a good chance most of those shows will make it to this service each season.

The fact that the Japanese righs holders refused to license out JJBA makes me wonder if the same thing happened to Ben-to (not sure what might be in common aside from David Pro).


MyLittlePonyKeg wrote:

What determines what shows do come to crunchy roll? I see they're getting 16 new shows; four yet to be named; but there are 57 shows premiering. 16 of 57 is quite a small fraction considering; so how did they pick the 16 out of those 57?


Like Greylurker said, a lot of it comes down to money. I'd suggest reading The Anime Economy (especially Part 3), a series of articles that was published on ANN: http://4NN.cx/81115

As for the '16/57': CR typically adds more boxes as contracts are being signed and announcements made (I think the /lineup page started with four boxes this season), so don't expect 16 to be the final count.
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You are way to early to gve up on Crunchyroll getting those shows. At least wait until the premier broadcasts in Japan! IS2 is soon in 2 days and 8 hours but BlazBlue has over 8 days. Not much chance of getting Gundam.

Crunchyroll tries to get any and all anime shows that it can. Some shows refuse licenses while others want home video rights in which case they may prefer Funimation over a sublicense. Some might ask for crazy money but Crunchy tries to get everything. They will have 20-30 new shows by the time all is said and done.
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MyLittlePonyKeg wrote:
What determines what shows do come to crunchy roll?


First of all, I approve of your Terry Bogard avatar. SNK lives.

But, to answer your question: Yes, it's money. You want to see the shows you want to see? Consider putting up the money and becoming a premium member. $6.95 (U.S.) per month is a steal, considering what all you get for it.
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The fact that the Japanese righs holders refused to license out JJBA makes me wonder if the same thing happened to Ben-to (not sure what might be in common aside from David Pro).

I don't know if you read the article recently about Viz Media getting the rights to translate part 3 of the manga, but they said the problem with licensing JoJo's is that there are so many references to western media everywhere that getting the rights and paying royalties just to translate references pretty much makes it not worth it. Unless of course it's really popular, like part 3 of the manga.

I think Ben-To being a streaming orphan too might be a coincidence.
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Symphogear G basically being Nana Mizuki singing for 13 episodes is also rumoured to having been a reason why it didn't get licensed. Too expensive to pick up all the music rights. But then they end up fighting to get the stuff taken down from youtube all day and honestly I think it would have been simpler just to offer it for license... but it seems King Records just didn't want to play ball this time.
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Odds are against CR getting Gundam Build Fighters. It's looking like a similar situation to Gundam AGE . Gundam.info announced that they are doing a simulcast:

http://en.gundam.info/topics/white/25862

CR has good odds at getting Infinite Stratos 2 and they very well could get the first season.
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I agree with everyone who is saying chill out about CR getting stuff. I have a lot of faith in them after the good showing they turned in over the summer.

However, I understand where all this anxiety is coming from. There are a number of anticipated shows premiering on Thursday, so, depending on your perception, that could seem like taking things right down to the wire.
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rcsatcrunchyrollBut, to answer your question: Yes, it's money. You want to see the shows you want to see? Consider putting up the money and becoming a premium member. $6.95 (U.S.) per month is a steal, considering what all you get for it.


I do have the $6.95 monthly service.
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TrueGoober wrote:

I don't know if you read the article recently about Viz Media getting the rights to translate part 3 of the manga, but they said the problem with licensing JoJo's is that there are so many references to western media everywhere that getting the rights and paying royalties just to translate references pretty much makes it not worth it. Unless of course it's really popular, like part 3 of the manga.


I hadn't actually caught that article. I've heard of Jojo's being referenced by lots of other works, but not the other way around.
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Usually it's money, but it's a bit more complicated than that.. you might want to see http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-820343/what-is-funimation#44329723 - it covers a bunch of these issues, as well as some others, even though that thread was Funimation specific. It still covers how/why contracts are handed out.

Also, as others have said - it's way early in the season, and CR is mostly just increasing their number of simulcasts! 16 is the current count, but I seriously doubt that's all they'll have...
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MyLittlePonyKeg wrote:
I do have the $6.95 monthly service.


My error. Your user name is just long enough to scroll your star off into invisibility.
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MyLittlePonyKeg wrote:

There is no Gundam on crunchy roll so I won't hold my breath on that one and since Infinite Stratos is not on crunchy roll then Infinite Stratos 2 probably won't be.

The Anime Network was still doing simulasts when the original Infinite Stratos aired. As they haven't for a few seasons now, I don't expecting them to this season. As Sentai can be expected to license the second series for home video, just as they did the first, it would be natural for them to obtain their usual simulcast license to pass on to CR, and CR to then negotiate for the original series to be added as a library title.



What determines what shows do come to crunchy roll? I see they're getting 16 new shows; four yet to be named; but there are 57 shows premiering. 16 of 57 is quite a small fraction considering; so how did they pick the 16 out of those 57?

If you check the lineup page again, you'll see that is now 7 to be named, and even that isn't likely to be the final tally.

I see you've been a member here since late 2012. Had you really not noticed the way the simulcast announcements and additions to the lineup page worked during the past 3 seasons?
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