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Disappointed in the restrictions for UK subscribers this season.
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And here I thought that being in the US was a hard place to get anime. The UK has a depressingly small number of shows I want to watch this season......

Onward to Horrible Subs!!!!!!!
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TheGordianNot wrote: If that will be the case, might as well cancel my premium subscription with Crunchy for the time being. I see no use in it for this half-assed season.

Yeah, if all you wanted to see were three series that won't be available to the UK at Crunchyroll, and one that might not be licensed for streaming at all until next season, there's be a bit of sense to that.


Well, there's still a good bunch of old anime I could watch. For example these days I'm skimming through TWGOK. But I'll be over with that soon enough, and I don't know if it's worth to keep a subscription just for old series and no simulcasts. I am still following HunterXHunter though .
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time to check out some new anime!!!!!
loving the fall line-up!!
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CRU5H1NAT0R wrote:

Disappointed in the restrictions for UK subscribers this season.


It's a very weak effort. This is worst season for UK subscribers for a long time.

Still, not to worry, others will fill the gap, one way or another. Cancelling your sub would probably be a good idea too.
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Beyond the Boundary (or Kyoukai no Kanata) is an awesome start to the new season (I know, I know It started with Diabolik Lovers, but I won't count that dark version of Brothers Conflict . Even though it's in my queue, it, like Miss Monochrome isn't full length) Such an interesting world. Now I want to find the source. Does anyone know about a translated version of the LN? I'm hooked! Looking forward to the rest of the newbies!
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CRU5H1NAT0R wrote:

Disappointed in the restrictions for UK subscribers this season.


It's a very weak effort. This is worst season for UK subscribers for a long time.

Still, not to worry, others will fill the gap, one way or another. Cancelling your sub would probably be a good idea too.


Still,if you do cancel your sub as a protest, all Crunchyroll will see is that they have fewer UK subscribers, and thus fewer incentives to get anime for us. A bit of a vicious circle. Yes, it is disappointing that they don't have all the shows we want, but we could view it as an opportunity to watch an anime that is streaming that we normally wouldn't (I might try Golden Time, personally!)

Plus, we do still have Anime Limited, so let's hold out hope for that as well. Andrew Partridge seems like a great guy, is very experienced in the Anime industry and knows what UK consumers want

I think Crunchyroll deserves another season before you write them off. Let's see what they do in winter - this could just be a small blip, after all.



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mendo_shutaro wrote:


CRU5H1NAT0R wrote:

Disappointed in the restrictions for UK subscribers this season.


It's a very weak effort. This is worst season for UK subscribers for a long time.

Still, not to worry, others will fill the gap, one way or another. Cancelling your sub would probably be a good idea too.


Still,if you do cancel your sub as a protest, all Crunchyroll will see is that they have fewer UK subscribers, and thus fewer incentives to get anime for us. A bit of a vicious circle. Yes, it is disappointing that they don't have all the shows we want, but we could view it as an opportunity to watch an anime that is streaming that we normally wouldn't (I might try Golden Time, personally!)

Plus, we do still have Anime Limited, so let's hold out hope for that as well. Andrew Partridge seems like a great guy, is very experienced in the Anime industry and knows what UK consumers want

I think Crunchyroll deserves another season before you write them off. Let's see what they do in winter - this could just be a small blip, after all.





Well, that sounds like the sort of thing an abused wife might say as she justifies giving her thuggish husband one more chance.

For reasons we'll likely never know, CR have dramatically reduced their UK licenses this season. Based on that single point of evidence, the only conclusion that can be reached, is that as a value proposition to UK anime fans, CR is a very hard sell. For the £5 a month CR costs, you could get a Netflix or LoveFilm sub, which won't help with anime, but will at least deliver a mountain load of other content, and vastly more than CR provide.
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Well, that sounds like the sort of thing an abused wife might say as she justifies giving her thuggish husband one more chance.

For reasons we'll likely never know, CR have dramatically reduced their UK licenses this season. Based on that single point of evidence, the only conclusion that can be reached, is that as a value proposition to UK anime fans, CR is a very hard sell. For the £5 a month CR costs, you could get a Netflix or LoveFilm sub, which won't help with anime, but will at least deliver a mountain load of other content, and vastly more than CR provide.


First off all, I think your analogy is slightly distasteful - I don't think Crunchyroll should be compared to a thuggish husband - they are not even in the same league.

Moreover, Crunchyroll is actively trying to get as many licenses for as many regions as they can, but competition is clearly fierce. They will have seasons where they won't get the ones you like, and they will have ones where they do: feast and famine. This is clearly more famine than feast, yet we still have enough anime streaming to us we should have a full stomach at the end of the season.

If Crunchyroll has reduced the number of licenses this season, that only goes to show how spoiled we were before - we still have over half of them, and more coming through anime limited. There are still at least five more shows to announce - you never know, all five might be shows you like and available in the UK.
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Xan015 wrote:
Still,if you do cancel your sub as a protest, all Crunchyroll will see is that they have fewer UK subscribers, and thus fewer incentives to get anime for us. A bit of a vicious circle. Yes, it is disappointing that they don't have all the shows we want, but we could view it as an opportunity to watch an anime that is streaming that we normally wouldn't (I might try Golden Time, personally!)



Problem is, if people complain about the lack of UK shows and still pay, it sends a message that we're all talk and no trousers. That for all our complaints, we actually don't mind the situation.

In my case, I'm tempted to cancel because there really isn't anything I'm that fussed about seeing. All the interesting shows we are getting are ones i'd watch after watching something that really grabbed me.

I don't like paying for services I don't ue. I have a gym membership for that...

...and I so need to either go back to the gym or cancel.


Xan015 wrote:
If Crunchyroll has reduced the number of licenses this season, that only goes to show how spoiled we were before - we still have over half of them, and more coming through anime limited. There are still at least five more shows to announce - you never know, all five might be shows you like and available in the UK.


This is true. if the other five are real attention-grabbers then fantastic.

If they're not, though, then still having "over half of the shows" doesn't mean much when it's the less personally interesting half. Some may call it "being spoiled" up until now, I call it "being able to watch things legally, and paying to do so, that i'd previously have watched via fansub". i'm not sure I'd class "paying to do the right thing" as being spoiled.
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This is true. if the other five are real attention-grabbers then fantastic.

If they're not, though, then still having "over half of the shows" doesn't mean much when it's the less personally interesting half. Some may call it "being spoiled" up until now, I call it "being able to watch things legally, and paying to do so, that i'd previously have watched via fansub". i'm not sure I'd class "paying to do the right thing" as being spoiled.


I understand your view, and I agree, up to a point. What I'm trying to say, is that before Crunchyroll came along, we had absolutely nothing at all, and the only simulcasts were illegal ones. Compared to that, we are indeed spoiled now I, also, far prefer watching legal anime - I think it is the right thing to do.

Also, our subscriptions do not just go towards acquiring new anime - they mean Crunchyroll can afford to stream us shows ad-free and in high quality. That's worth paying for in and of itself

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For the £5 a month CR costs, you could get a Netflix or LoveFilm sub, which won't help with anime, but will at least deliver a mountain load of other content, and vastly more than CR provide.

It is interesting you suggest Netflix, since they have exactly the same "problem" you criticize CR for: Charging the same for less content than they deliver in the United States.

As of this month, the US Netflix library was over 10,000 titles, vs. a bit over 3,000 for the UK.

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Guess I'll have to see Beyond the Boundary through the dark side... Thanks TBS!
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Xan015 wrote:

Also, our subscriptions do not just go towards acquiring new anime - they mean Crunchyroll can afford to stream us shows ad-free and in high quality. That's worth paying for in and of itself



True. But without new content to watch, letting my sub lapse for a few months isn't going to matter if there's nothing I currently feel like watching. "High quality and ad-free" doesn't magically make a show something i want to watch. "Interesting and available" does.

I'll see how I get on with this season but if nothing is grabbing my interest by mid-to-late October I'll just save my cash for a few months.
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