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Post Reply New Fall Simulcasts: Nagi no Asukara, Infinite Stratos 2, Outbreak Company, Hakuba no Ōjisama, Expanded Territories!
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Nagi no Asukara is a very nice addition, thanks CR.


The Kill La Kill regional expansion though is GREAT NEWS for most of the EU(yeah, the UK and French and German speaking areas still get left out sadly)
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Yay for expanded regions!
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Okay now I'm convinced Anime Limited has the UK rights to Kill la Kill with this regional expansion still excluding the UK.
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edl01 wrote:

Could someone please explain the logic of this to me? Don't get me wrong I have no problem with the UK getting another show or anything, but why do they bother giving us Inifinite Stratos season 2 when we don't even have season 1? I mean logically it doesn't make much sense why they would give us a season 2 and not say Samurai Flemenco, or Kill la Kill.
Granted if Crunchyroll does get the rights to season one of IS for the UK then that complaint will go away and I can say "yay we have a new show".

edit: I just learned no country has IS, I always just assumed that it was NA only. My Mistake :P

The original series is licensed by Sentai here in the United States, and is published by them on home video, complete with a dub. It was also simulcast by TAN (The Anime Network).

As to making the second series available without the first, keep in mind everyone got the final season of The Familiar of Zero without the earlier 3 series. (The first was available at one time here in the U.S. on disc, but never streaming, and the 2nd and 3rd series are still not legally available). There are probably a few other examples, but that is one that immediately leaps to mind.

Personally, I would rather have a sequel series on its own than not at all. I find most aren't that hard to follow.

As to why the UK got it, but not Samurai Flemenco or Kill la Kill, is simple: They could gets the rights to IS2, but not those two (and Daisuki also failed to get UK rights for Kill la Kill).




Greylurker wrote:

Never seen the first season of IS so II hope CR gets it as a catalog title

I expect they will, but as you are in Canada you could always view the subtitled version for free at TAN:
http://www.theanimenetwork.com/Anime/Infinite-Stratos/Watch

As this was a simulcast for them, however, it will be censored. If CR gets it as a library title from Sentai, it will be uncensored (but also only for the U.S. and Canada, as that would be all Sentai licensed the rights for). The bigger puzzle is how CR managed to get the normal "via Sentai" region rights for this one, while the two other TBS titles are North America only.



kuuderes_shadow wrote:
Historical precedent (e.g. Dog Days) suggests that this means in a few months time (possibly early next year) CR will upload the first season. Which will most likely include us so long as no distributor has got the license to season 1 without telling us about it yet.


As noted in my first reply above, the rights in the U.S. and Canada are held by Sentai. If CR obtains it is as a library title, it would have to be via them, and as Sentai would have only licensed those rights, it would only be available in those two countries.

As noted in my second reply, persons in those countries can already view it for free (albeit in only 360p [unless they subscribe to TAN] and in the original censored simulcast form).

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Please Nagi no Asukara for Latin America, please Nagi no Asukara for Latin America
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As noted in my second reply, persons in those countries can already view it for free (albeit in only 360p [unless they subscribe to TAN] and in the original censored simulcast form).

What is the HD that comes on when I press HD then? I am not a TAN subscriber but there is an HD button which does increase the resolution though to what I cannot tell. 240 up to 360p?
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Expanded regions is such a good news, and Nagi no Asakura is coming as well =)
I really hope they get a lot of regions for this one, it's one of my most antecipated anime this season.
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hpulley wrote:

What is the HD that comes on when I press HD then? I am not a TAN subscriber but there is an HD button which does increase the resolution though to what I cannot tell. 240 up to 360p?

Here in the United States, the free viewing on TAN is via a Hulu embed, which means no option for HD (unless perhaps you have Hulu Plus and were signed into it). Apparently since they use their own player for Canada, they didn't bother to disable the HD option, which would mean you get a bonus.

Do you get ads in the free-view TAN streams in Canada?

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I'd say, there's a good chance that IS becomes a catalog title at some point, as the url for IS2 covers IS in general.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/infinite-stratos

Which is something CR usually does when there is more than one season present in the page entry.
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chishi77 wrote:

Seriously it might be worth me cancelling my subscription for this month, there's basically nothing to watch here in the UK. This is getting ridiculous, can we at least pay less or something?

Paying less would very likely result in the a downward spiral.

I have my doubts that cutting the price from 5 pounds to 2.50 would double the number of subscribers, since neither amount is a lot of money. If it failed to do so, CR would then have half the revenue to support new licenses for the UK. That would mean fewer titles the next time around, which would mean fewer subscribers again.

Even assuming it did double the number of subscribers, CR's income for the region would be the same, while their streaming costs increased.

About the only way it might work is if cutting the price more than doubled the number of subscribers, but I just don't believe people are that price sensitive.

Perhaps if someone could point out an example of this tactic being successful for another media company, CR might consider it. Netflix, for example, doesn't charge UK subscribers 30% of what people in the U.S. are charged, despite that being the difference in the number of titles they offer for each country.

Anime on Demand apparently couldn't garner enough traffic in the UK even offering up titles in HD for free for two seasons (or was it 3?) which further casts doubt on cutting the subscription price bringing in enough additional subscribers to make up the difference.

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hpulley wrote:

What is the HD that comes on when I press HD then? I am not a TAN subscriber but there is an HD button which does increase the resolution though to what I cannot tell. 240 up to 360p?

Here in the United States, the free viewing on TAN is via a Hulu embed, which means no option for HD (unless perhaps you have Hulu Plus and were signed into it). Apparently since they use their own player for Canada, they didn't bother to disable the HD option, which would mean you get a bonus.

Do you get ads in the free-view TAN streams in Canada?
Ad free and in HD! Woohoo! For once a bonus for not being able to watch Hulu. Too bad about Coppellion though... unlike Funi and TAN, Viz doesn't have their own player for Canada.

But... is Hulu plus available in Canada? Would that give me Coppellion? I certainly don't have it now, didn't know it was possible to get it.

Doesn't seem to be:

Sorry, currently our video library can only be watched from within the United States
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I realise it wouldn't be directly profitable but it would be an act of good will which is great for getting customer support.
I actually hadn't really looked at anime on demand before reading this thread, I've never really hunted out places to watch anime I liked how convenient CR is for me, together with it's app for when I'm not at home.
I doubt I'll cancel my subscription(it just means CR have less money to actually get things sorted) but it's seriously irritating. I hope they can work some more deals out, I know they often get more licenses over time.
I've probably been spoiled by last season being so amazing.
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hpulley wrote:

Ad free and in HD! Woohoo! For once a bonus for not being able to watch Hulu. Too bad about Coppellion though... unlike Funi and TAN, Viz doesn't have their own player for Canada.

But... is Hulu plus available in Canada? Would that give me Coppellion? I certainly don't have it now, didn't know it was possible to get it.

Doesn't seem to be:

Sorry, currently our video library can only be watched from within the United States

That is a nice bonus! I'll have to keep that in mind for any other users from Canada when a reply relates to an anime available for free viewing on TAN.

As for Hulu, there is always the use of a VPN or proxy. Even most of the paid services are less than the subscription cost of Hulu Plus.

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hpulley wrote:

Ad free and in HD! Woohoo! For once a bonus for not being able to watch Hulu. Too bad about Coppellion though... unlike Funi and TAN, Viz doesn't have their own player for Canada.

But... is Hulu plus available in Canada? Would that give me Coppellion? I certainly don't have it now, didn't know it was possible to get it.

Doesn't seem to be:

Sorry, currently our video library can only be watched from within the United States

That is a nice bonus! I'll have to keep that in mind for any other users from Canada when a reply relates to an anime available for free viewing on TAN.

As for Hulu, there is always the use of a VPN or proxy. Even most of the paid services are less than the subscription cost of Hulu Plus.


What would be worse, a proxy or raws or fansubs? Not sure which is the less or more illegal. I usually just skip the Viz shows.
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hpulley wrote:
What would be worse, a proxy or raws or fansubs? Not sure which is the less or more illegal. I usually just skip the Viz shows.

With a proxy, Viz still gets their share of the ad revenue from Hulu, and it counts as a view toward the MG they paid the publisher.

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