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Posted 10/7/13

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Interesting animation. It is basically like what RWBY could look like if it had a bigger budget/work crew.

Also liking the concept. Will need to see a few more episodes. Right now the battle scenes and the various Fog ship girls are what is holding my interest.

Speaking of the ship girls, why the heck is Takao, one of the(currently) "bad" ship girls, the poster character for the series on CR? I wanted to watch the PV, but it wouldn't play no matter what, so I just jumped into the first episode and I had assumed the character that ends up being Takao was the main or a main protagonist due to her being the sole character on CR's "poster" for the series.


Yea, first thing I thought after watching this for a few minutes is I'm reminded of RWBY with the animation.
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The CG doesn't really bother me, I've known about it for a while and gotten used to the idea. It looks nice all things considered.

What does concern me is that none of the characters really interest me so far. This is one of those series that doesn't do anything to offend or interest me. I tried the manga a while back and had similar feelings, although this episode seemed to be slightly different.

Regardless I will keep watching this at least for a little while more.
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Animation isn't so bad that it really bothered me. Premise is interesting enough to keep me interested. Plus, things like:

1) Human-Fog conspiracy? Already?
2) Who ordered her to find him? The father?
3) What if Iona betrays him?

That's enough to keep me watching "Gargantia without fanservice and with cooler ships."
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Posted 10/8/13
One episode of bikinis in Gargantia and it's already labeled as fanservice. lol
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Deuswyvern wrote:

The CG doesn't really bother me, I've known about it for a while and gotten used to the idea. It looks nice all things considered.

What does concern me is that none of the characters really interest me so far. This is one of those series that doesn't do anything to offend or interest me. I tried the manga a while back and had similar feelings, although this episode seemed to be slightly different.

Regardless I will keep watching this at least for a little while more.


This pretty much sums it up for me, too. I know everyone's supposed to hate CG, but honestly, it looks fine. The trouble with the show is that so far, it looks extremely boilerplate. Ragtag crew of teens led by generic guy who wants to be a hero and show those lame adults whatfor, piloting cool navy vehicle with starship-like tech enhancements. And the super-ships are all personified by cute girls. Seems just like every old-school military anime ever, with a touch of moe.

It could get better, but right now it seems pretty ordinary.


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That's enough to keep me watching "Gargantia without fanservice and with cooler ships."


Gargantia's first episode didn't have fanservice, either, and it never had a whole lot. It was never really a war series anyway, so I don't see much relation to this show.

And yes, his father told Iona to meet him. She said that several times.
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CG is a bit jarring, but I'm still perplexed as to why multi-thousand ton warships of unknown origin have avatars that are just cute girls. I think I've been in the military too long, or have been watching anime too long. Nothing says war like cute girls. -_-.

Still, interesting premise, and the warship designs have a bit of WWII flavor to them.


they explain why they are all female in terms of form in the manga (even though the reasoning is a bit odd)


just cute girls

i hardly call Kongou cute...
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camontour wrote:

CG is a bit jarring, but I'm still perplexed as to why multi-thousand ton warships of unknown origin have avatars that are just cute girls. I think I've been in the military too long, or have been watching anime too long. Nothing says war like cute girls. -_-.

Still, interesting premise, and the warship designs have a bit of WWII flavor to them.


they explain why they are all female in terms of form in the manga (even though the reasoning is a bit odd)


just cute girls

i hardly call Kongou cute...


I guess I should be used to anime having cute girls directly tied to large death dealing machines. It SHOULDN'T surprise me, but this time I just kinda had to point it out. Are they afraid that using dull, boring looking robots or HAL 2000 like things will suddenly make everything lame? Or is it used to garner more symphony from the viewer because they are simply young/cute girls?

Still, I guess it is a nitpick on my part. It's not often I get to see large naval battles in anime in pretty awesomely rendered details. I'll just be thankful at this time.
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Posted 10/9/13

camontour wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:


camontour wrote:

CG is a bit jarring, but I'm still perplexed as to why multi-thousand ton warships of unknown origin have avatars that are just cute girls. I think I've been in the military too long, or have been watching anime too long. Nothing says war like cute girls. -_-.

Still, interesting premise, and the warship designs have a bit of WWII flavor to them.


they explain why they are all female in terms of form in the manga (even though the reasoning is a bit odd)


just cute girls

i hardly call Kongou cute...


I guess I should be used to anime having cute girls directly tied to large death dealing machines. It SHOULDN'T surprise me, but this time I just kinda had to point it out. Are they afraid that using dull, boring looking robots or HAL 2000 like things will suddenly make everything lame? Or is it used to garner more symphony from the viewer because they are simply young/cute girls?

Still, I guess it is a nitpick on my part. It's not often I get to see large naval battles in anime in pretty awesomely rendered details. I'll just be thankful at this time.


i think you may have answered your own question. who would watch this if the machines were dull?
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camontour wrote:


Still, I guess it is a nitpick on my part. It's not often I get to see large naval battles in anime in pretty awesomely rendered details. I'll just be thankful at this time.


I call it the anime law of shoujomorphism... Anything and I mean ANYTHING can be made 'better' by turning it into a cute girl.

What I find annoying is that no matter what I entered into the forum search I couldn't find this thread.

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From my hope soon to be deleted duplicate thread.


I swear the pilot/ova came out for this some months ago because I remember watching a story that was a lot like a rough draft and somewhat more confusing version of episode 1. It had the ship/girls and ended with the battleship declaring she'd turn Iona to dust. and the world was ... the same... but there was no flashback episode and little exposure for the supporting cast.

anyhow...


I'm hoping this will be good. It's about time naval action got it's share of all the shoujomorphism going on.


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Interesting premise, but honestly kinda falls flat on its face due to bad pacing and dull characters. Also while the premise might be halfway interesting, the visual design is too silly to take seriously. We're suppose to fear generic trope anime girls on neon disco ships?

It pitches a mysterious, overpowering enemy yet we know the names of all of the enemies by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, who the fuck was anyone on Iona's crew? No idea. They just appear at a table around the main character then suddenly they're his crew after a time skip. Plus that intro was out of joint.

This would have worked much better if they had built any kind of suspense or mystery around the Fog. But the story is told the wrong way around. It shouldn't have time skipped forward then back again right out of the gate. All it did was remove any suspense or threat. The scene shows the Fog kicking our ass, then it skips ahead and our nameless heroes are kicking the Fog's ass. Then it skips back two years again to hurriedly rush out a story set up to catch up.

In the span of 5 minutes it showed the Bad Guys being super powerful, than having their ass kicked by a junior high school student and his pet loli. That completely deflates any sense of dread or threat the Fog poses. While at the same time removing 2 years of character growth that would have been much more interesting to watch.

If your hero is going to go from sullen high school student to bad ass submarine captain, you should show HOW that happened. Not just skip ahead and put him in a suit because he's super pro now. -.-





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Posted 10/9/13

uhohimdead wrote:



i think you may have answered your own question. who would watch this if the machines were dull?


If by that you mean two large naval powers battling its, it's captains on each side attempting to outmaneuver each other in an effort to gain the upper hand, with nigh a "cute girl" in sight, I'd watch the HELL out of it.

Still, I can't 100% say I don't DISLIKE cute girls...so yeah. lol.
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Posted 10/10/13
Interesting so far. I'm not a fan of the character models, but I can get past that. The naval battle animation was pretty well done. It looks like this might be fun.
Posted 10/10/13
I see nothing wrong with the CGI and am I the only one not bothered by time skips? They well probably go over it in later episodes, chill y'all. The battle scenes are cool and there seems to be a human/fog conspiracy, enough to keep me interested.
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Posted 10/14/13
Episode 2

Damn I feel sorry for Takao this episode considering not everything went according to plan. I still liked her tactics and style though. I'm still trying to get used to the CGI but I think the latest episode was overall decent.

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Posted 10/14/13 , edited 10/14/13
I'm still not sure what to think of this one. I love the naval battles, but the main characters have nothing to make me care about them. I'm starting to suspect that this show will be more about the fleet of fog than the humans, as so far the humans have had dull characterization.
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