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What's your opinion of Deconstruction Anime?
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HauAreWe wrote:
So.. Neon Genesis & Madoka Magica are the entirety of examples that we can get?

I understand Gurren being a "reconstruction" (much in the same way that PreCure reconstructs magical girls.)

But as far as deconstruction goes, I have no idea if there are enough examples to give anyone an opinion.

So far it's just shows that take a genre and try to show you its darker side. Which can be disgusting trash (School Days), rather melancholy (Evangelion), and full of hidden agendas (Madoka.) So, it's just a "storytelling technique" similar to a "twist", with few examples.


I took a moment to find examples outside of anime entirely, and try to find one both popular, and going the opposite direction.

Deconstruction will be boiled down to "A show which takes a realistic or more grounded approach to it's selected Genre"
You have to remember that early Anime was, indeed, kids shows. Astro Boy and hundreds of super-robot Voltron Power ranger style things that I can't name off. They were unrealisticly positive, and works that deconstructed it took a darker tone.

But Darker does not a Deconstruction make.

My film example is Monty Pythons Life of Brian. Amazing movie, go watch it if you can find it.

The film takes a less romanticized view of the life of Jesus Christ, and religion, and the Romans and Jews...yah know, all that fancy stuff.
It's about a guy, named Brian, born from his mother the Virgin Mandy. His life parallels Jesus and he was actually born in the Manger next door.

The movie goes out of it's way to state how the Romans weren't these crazy Nazi-esc bad guys. How they did tons of things to improve peoples lives, like the Roads, education system, aqueducts, social order. How until the Romans came in, you wouldn't dare leave your house at night, and now they could walk down the road carrying huge bags of gold without fear or worry.

The entire film's theme is pointing out contradictions of religion, government, and biblical stories WHILE cracking a few good jokes.
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Madoka Magica was a near perfect Deconstruction of the magical girl anime
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Too much thinking going on in here. Glad y'all analyze the hell out of this stuff and not me. I'll just enjoy the shows :)

I did read the other long post & I see what your saying. I'm too lazy to put that much thought into most anime; unless it strikes a real chord with me. Y'all continue as you are, I won't clog up the thread anymore.
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The best deconstruction anime?

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HauAreWe wrote:


So.. Neon Genesis & Madoka Magica are the entirety of examples that we can get?


I understand Gurren being a "reconstruction" (much in the same way that PreCure reconstructs magical girls.)

But as far as deconstruction goes, I have no idea if there are enough examples to give anyone an opinion.

So far it's just shows that take a genre and try to show you its darker side. Which can be disgusting trash (School Days), rather melancholy (Evangelion), and full of hidden agendas (Madoka.) So, it's just a "storytelling technique" similar to a "twist", with few examples.


And Crowds of course >< It's not something Anime is doing yet is the thing. Postmodern writing concepts are still really new in anime as a general rule (refer to how referencing the nature of a show suddenly has become a common joke over the last few years), and it's inherently risky, so it's not surprising to me to not see many yet.




Koda89 wrote:

Oh something I thought of, what would we classify Another as? I ask because like Gatchaman Crowds it plays with our expectations for its genre. At every turn that show took what I was expecting and gave it the middle finger. Every time I thought I figured it all out the very next episode was like, "LOL.....no." to what I thought was the truth. In the end I was only able to correctly guess one thing, just one charaxter's death and that's it.


To me it would be a question of 'do the plot twists make you question the underlying narratives of the genre, or are they just plot twists?' I haven't seen Another yet, so I can't judge for myeslf, but I think that's the important distinction. It's all whether it makes you examine the genre.

To me that's why Evangelion and Madoka aren't really deconstructionist, I never really found them raising questions about their genres. They're novel takes but that's a different thing.
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