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Posted 9/8/15 , edited 9/8/15

Bjaker wrote:



Accounts are for a single household.
If it is suspected that your account is being shared, we can cancel your subscription.



What if it's a family account but a family member has since moved and gone off to school?
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As stated, a single household.
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I own homes in multiple states and travel frequently. Does this mean I need to have multiple accounts? Also I have family in two different states so how would that work?
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Posted 10/19/16 , edited 10/19/16
The license is per household, so since you have multiple the license would travel with you, no different than carrying a Roku or other streaming device with you to someone elses place (in this case it would still be your own)

If Cruncyroll does happen to check your account for simultaneous logins from different IP addresses, they may still constact you about sharing then you will need to explain the situation to them.

Unrelated but relevant to thread itself:

If people are concerned for simultaneous logins from multiple IP addresses, they could pay for Internet with good upload and download speeds at one location and tunnel all their streaming from them and/or friends to the same location (and thus have the same IP address)

Using a Paid/public VPN is a bad idea however
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Posted 10/19/16

driverdis wrote:

The license is per household, so since you have multiple the license would travel with you, no different than carrying a Roku or other streaming device with you to someone elses place (in this case it would still be your own)

If Cruncyroll does happen to check your account for simultaneous logins from different IP addresses, they may still constact you about sharing then you will need to explain the situation to them.

Unrelated but relevant to thread itself:

If people are concerned for simultaneous logins from multiple IP addresses, they could pay for Internet with good upload and download speeds at one location and tunnel all their streaming from them and/or friends to the same location (and thus have the same IP address)

Using a Paid/public VPN is a bad idea however


What you're describing is still packet manipulation, and a violation of the /ToS.
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Posted 10/19/16 , edited 10/19/16
Packet Routing and Packet Manipulation are two different things

with A proper VPN, Packets are routed, not manipulated/tampered with.

However using any VPN would be against TOS, although there would be no way for Crunchyroll to prove it other than doing a home visit and inspecting your setup. This is why using a public/paid VPN is a bad idea.

if packet manipulation is against TOS, that means that everyones router is breaking TOS via combining smaller packets (eliminating packet fragmentation) and anyone who watches at their workplace, public WiFi/Internet at hotel,etc is breaking TOS as most proxy the data which can be considered packet manipulation. QoS would even quality as manipulation as it messes with the flow of packets.
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Posted 10/19/16

driverdis wrote:

Packet Routing and Packet Manipulation are two different things

with A proper VPN, Packets are routed, not manipulated/tampered with.

However using any VPN would be against TOS, although there would be no way for Crunchyroll to prove it other than doing a home visit and inspecting your setup. This is why using a public/paid VPN is a bad idea.

if packet manipulation is against TOS, that means that everyones router is breaking TOS via combining smaller packets (eliminating packet fragmentation) and anyone who watches at their workplace, public WiFi/Internet at hotel,etc is breaking TOS as most proxy the data which can be considered packet manipulation. QoS would even quality as manipulation as it messes with the flow of packets.


Your suggestion still falsifies the identifying information of the end-user in order to avoid being detected as using the same account in two different physical locations:

Forge any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any posting or in any way use the Site or Services to send altered, deceptive or false source-identifying information;
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Posted 10/19/16 , edited 10/19/16

eyeofpain wrote:

Your suggestion still falsifies the identifying information of the end-user in order to avoid being detected as using the same account in two different physical locations:

Forge any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any posting or in any way use the Site or Services to send altered, deceptive or false source-identifying information;


no packets are ever "Forged"

the data itself is not deceptive, altered, or false. It is up to the device used for streaming to create and send/receive any data.

as far as any device is concerned, it is on the same network as all your other devices, as a VPN becomes an extension of your own network.

the source-identifying infomation is still valid, it is coming from a device on your network [ A VPN is an extension of your own network] and connects up with Crunchyroll's servers. since the device is on the same local network and has the same external IP address as a device on the network without VPN usage, the data is not altered or falsified in any way. (although the physical location may be different, no data is ever altered/forged/manipulated externally to point to being at the same physical destination)

IP addresses are not a guarantee of physical locations. I could load balance my internet connection between 3 different ISPs (each with their own IP addresses. I would be in the same household but Crunchyroll would detect that the IP addresses are different if more than one person was watching Crunchyroll at the moment.


I am looking at this from a technical standpoint and sure, a VPN would violate TOS for those using one but there will not be any way to detect someone using a personal VPN to tunnel others through as the nothing is ever forged/altered.

I guess the only way to catch people would be if someone had like 15 streams open simultaneously from the same IP address. there would be no reasonable explanation for this other than some form of account sharing/VPN use.

I guess the point I was trying to make is that although VPN use is against TOS and account sharing is against TOS, people using personal VPNs to tunnel data from others over their connection will not be caught as nothing is tampered with data/packet wise.
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