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Does anyone remember this kid or no?
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Posted 10/18/13 , edited 10/18/13
In the kid's defense, my mom never would have hit me for me asking her to turn down to volume of something on the flight. The mom probably doesn't show him respect as his parent. It goes both ways. Now he shouldn't have hit her, but up til that point he just wanted to say his side of the story. A good parent would've let him say his piece and then explained why he was wrong.


Just my 2 cents

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I know there are some times you just have to tell a kid. I'm the adult I know better. But a discussion like that is not one of them.
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His voice reminds me of bacon kid's voice.
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Don't really care about the video, looks to be some played-up garbage from a "reality" TV show. But these comments in favor of corporal punishment are pretty disturbing...

The main thing people learn from being punished with violence is that violence is a valid form of punishment. They often grow up to be the sort of people who beat their kids, their wives, strangers who insult them, fans of rival sports teams...pretty much anyone they want to control who's physically weaker than them. So they smack their kids around whenever they feel like it, and the cycle continues. About time we worked on breaking that cycle, I think.

I wonder what proponents of corporal punishment would think of allowing bosses to beat up their employees for misbehaving. How is that any different? It's easy to support using violence to keep people in line when you aren't on the receiving end.
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A lot of these cases are to do with the parents and the reason we have more of this these days is that parents got lazier. The rot set in sometime in the 70's and it's just snowballed with generation after generation being raised badly and becoming lazier. If you want a child to be raised right you need to put the time and effort in to be with them and teach them the right way. In this day it feels like a lot of parents just kind of do the minimal then they have no time for their kids and actually hate being around them.

I mean how many times do you hear a Mother moan that she had to bring her kids to the store or whatever else. I mean really? You hate your kids that much? No wonder they grow up hating the world and their parents. Also far too many people shirk the responsibility of being a parent males are particularly bad for this since they'll often make excuses to return to their easy single life as soon as they have a kid and only demand to see them for the fun parts. Though females can be just as bad dumping kids on the other parent or their own parents so they can run wild and live carefree.

It's easy to blame kids and call them spoilt or whatever but a child is only as good as the way they were raised. If you take the time from birth to be with your child and talk to them they will turn out respectful. Explain why it's wrong when they do things wrong and never shout. If you are simply firm and assertive when you need to stop them they will listen. Children learn from experience and when provided with aggression and violence with no context they learn nothing and when shown laziness they respond with laziness.
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After reading some comments, and living down the road from an elementary school so I get to see brats like the one in the video daily. I am further digging myself into a hole of not wanting any kids, at least not until kids start acting properly. When I was a kid we could act out, but if we did it to our parents or teachers you were not going to be able to sit down for a few hours.

The kids around now are never punished, parents and teachers will just get slapped with fines (or fired in a teachers case) if they even try anyways, and so now kids are just entitled little brats who can get away with whatever they want as long as it stops short of a federal or state crime.

Also I saw it like twice in this thread and hear it all the time from my friends and acquaintances having kids, they all say they will/would never punish their children like we were when we were kids because it left them traumatized, and they wouldn't want their kids to go through that.
1) If it left you traumatized best go back to being traumatized and not having kids, allowing your brat to grow up to be a bully, or self-entitled prick is worse than any punishment you will deal to that kid.
2) Even if it left you traumatized you obviously grew up properly unless you acted out more in your teens, which that phase as I have seen usually passes by the time you are in college anyway.

Everyone I know from my generation acts properly, gives the proper respect to elders and family, and all because they, like me, were punished if they acted like a spoiled brat. Hell I have seen 60+ year old parents still lay a smack down on their 20-30 something year old kids if they acted out to them in any way.

Yes during the teen years some acted out to "rebel" against the system. But now in our twenties most have smartened up and are facing reality. In my opinion the only reason people throw a fuss about the whole punishing of kids now is because yes obviously there are violent people out there in the world, and those people will probably have kids. I understand there is such a thing as going overboard in punishment, but I bet your 4 times out of 5 the parent wont go overboard and will properly raise their child with discipline. But that 1 kid that breaks through and causes all sorts of shit is the one in the limelight and everyone focuses on that one, blaming the parents, blaming video games, movies, society, whatever you want so long as that kid isn't blamed and then gets all this special treatment because he acted out and all he really needed was a good smack to smarten his ass up.

Anyway thats my take on this all. I'm sure plenty will disagree, but everyone has to their own opinions on the issue.
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Something about the way this kid is acting in this video makes me feel like that's how his mom truly acts at home. While kids can be ridiculous they don't exactly have the capability to make shit like that up. On top of that the mom would naturally be composed and not abusive on a tv special. I used to deal with abuse, so something about when he slaps her and tells her to shut up and immediately follows that up with "see, how does that feel?" makes me feel like he is being abused at home. That kid is still nuts though....
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spare the rod spoil the child
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Oh yeah, I remember this little brat.

Parents today need to learn how to be PARENTS and not the FRIEND. There's a difference between abuse and doling out spankings when deserved and they also need to learn that.

My gosh, if I had EVER done this to my mum growing up, she would have murdered me.

I think, especially in today's society, parents need to instill tough love. Be hard, be tough - but do because you love your child.
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I think, in my opinion, there's a difference between plain old abuse and giving children spanking on their butt. Aside from that, there seems like it isn't enough tough/strict parents teaching their kids right from wrong these days. People feel like using violence on a child is wrong but I've seen people do much worst than giving out spankings.

Thats' just what I think though.
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Posted 10/18/13
Hey mom, shut the fuck up
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This is how I see it. You give respect when respect is due, not when it is asked of you. If she isn't a respectable parent, he shouldn't have to respect her. But that's just my 2 cents.
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kotomikun wrote:

Don't really care about the video, looks to be some played-up garbage from a "reality" TV show. But these comments in favor of corporal punishment are pretty disturbing...

The main thing people learn from being punished with violence is that violence is a valid form of punishment. They often grow up to be the sort of people who beat their kids, their wives, strangers who insult them, fans of rival sports teams...pretty much anyone they want to control who's physically weaker than them. So they smack their kids around whenever they feel like it, and the cycle continues. About time we worked on breaking that cycle, I think.

I wonder what proponents of corporal punishment would think of allowing bosses to beat up their employees for misbehaving. How is that any different? It's easy to support using violence to keep people in line when you aren't on the receiving end.



I'm not sure I agree with your statement. All the people I know who have dealt with corporal punishment as children (myself included) have grown up to be responsible adults, some in very loving relationships/marriages. What people learn from physical punishment isn't the validation of violence, it's the association of their actions with very real consequences. As a result, they learn at a young age to be much more accountable for their behaviour.

There's a very real distinction between using corporal punishment as a tool to instill discipline, and straight up physical abuse.
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puellapeanut wrote:

Oh yeah, I remember this little brat.

Parents today need to learn how to be PARENTS and not the FRIEND. There's a difference between abuse and doling out spankings when deserved and they also need to learn that.

My gosh, if I had EVER done this to my mum growing up, she would have murdered me.

I think, especially in today's society, parents need to instill tough love. Be hard, be tough - but do because you love your child.


Oh my gosh! I found someone to agree with.........OH HAPPY DAY!!!
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All the while there's the biggest bunch of morons in the country from California trying to make it more difficult for parents to discipline their children. Beat the absolute shit out of that kid in my opinion.
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mattyc4065 wrote:

All the while there's the biggest bunch of morons in the country from California trying to make it more difficult for parents to discipline their children. Beat the absolute shit out of that kid in my opinion.


Times are changing and its not so good.
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