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Does anyone remember this kid or no?
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CinaminLips wrote:

I would end up in jail if i ever saw that in person, seeing in video form just makes me...i don't even know the word for it.


Worst than the word "angry"?
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My mom would kill me If I ever do that! She's a strict mom to begin with anyway
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What made up word is this?

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Yes, It's a bunch of compiled memories that brought me forgetfulness and other stuff.
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Stonewolfe wrote: Also I saw it like twice in this thread and hear it all the time from my friends and acquaintances having kids, they all say they will/would never punish their children like we were when we were kids because it left them traumatized, and they wouldn't want their kids to go through that.
1) If it left you traumatized best go back to being traumatized and not having kids, allowing your brat to grow up to be a bully, or self-entitled prick is worse than any punishment you will deal to that kid.
2) Even if it left you traumatized you obviously grew up properly unless you acted out more in your teens, which that phase as I have seen usually passes by the time you are in college anyway..


I resented my father for seventeen years for the beatings he gave my brothers and I. It came down to never wanting to be in touch with him again until he changed. Without prompting him or my siblings, he calmed down and became a very chilled out person. I know for a fact that had he not beaten me, I would be mostly the same person as I am now, since the changes that happened to me were not aided by his actions. Just because I no longer resent him doesn't mean that I'm not still traumatized by the events. I don't particularly want kids either but if I ever did I wouldn't beat them - there are smarter ways to teach a kid what's right and wrong than violence.

Your second point is flawed logic. What you're saying is that the abuse they suffered is perfectly excusable simply for the fact they turned out alright after it all. The ends don't always justify the means when there are multiple contributing factors - you don't always know what the severity was or what the reasons were behind it, so saying that all of that's excused because it might have been the thing that made them turn out okay is kinda ignorant.

Yes it's your opinion. This is all opinion. That's the whole point of discussion boards.
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Instead of spouting irrational tripe BRAGGING about how you would smack around an underdeveloped TEN. YEAR. OLD. how about you actually watch the whole episode?

This womans daughter had died a few moths prior to this recording, It's obvious that this boy was either neglected or abused.
do you think any kid in a loving and caring household does things like this? Do you think those kids you see at the elementary schools are being raised properly? force-fed chemicals and sugar, raised by single mothers, sat infront of the idiotbox 24/7.
Corporal punishment has nothing to do with kids like this. Its the lousy, selfish, neglectful parenting prevalent in today's society that breeds kids like this.

You just need to look at the statistics, the states with the most reported students hit, also have the highest crime, and the lowest productivity.

This is why our society wont recover from its current situation, because the SHEEP are busy running in circles blaming the grass, when the problem is the shepherds.
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i would say that "angry" is in there, but i think i was looking more for a phrase or something, like "venomously, irrevocably angry".
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To be honest, I really don't know how I feel about this. It's because to me, I only see two people fighting and the kid is just trying to be heard out by his mother. It doesn't mean though that either one of them should use physically force no matter what reason.
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BionicSquid wrote:

Instead of spouting irrational tripe BRAGGING about how you would smack around an underdeveloped TEN. YEAR. OLD. how about you actually watch the whole episode?

This womans daughter had died a few moths prior to this recording, It's obvious that this boy was either neglected or abused.
do you think any kid in a loving and caring household does things like this? Do you think those kids you see at the elementary schools are being raised properly? force-fed chemicals and sugar, raised by single mothers, sat infront of the idiotbox 24/7.
Corporal punishment has nothing to do with kids like this. Its the lousy, selfish, neglectful parenting prevalent in today's society that breeds kids like this.

You just need to look at the statistics, the states with the most reported students hit, also have the highest crime, and the lowest productivity.

This is why our society wont recover from its current situation, because the SHEEP are busy running in circles blaming the grass, when the problem is the shepherds.


ahhhhh yes i do think/know that children act out like that even in a kind and loving household, i've seen it plenty of times. the only reason why he acted like that is because he got away with it the first time. that kind of behavior that is that out of control doesn't just appear out of no where over a couple of months. it's pretty obvious that he'd been like that for a while seeing how they both (the mother and son) acted. the only way this kid was neglected or abused was by not being put in his place when this behavior started.
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Exactly what type of beatings?
Full on beating the crap out of you or spanking only your bottom?
I was given spankings by my parents but never a beating, when I was younger. I know there are parents that go to jail for viciously beating their children to the point they were black and blue all over or die. If they're giving their children spankings on their butts and only the butts then I wouldn't consider it real beating. Some children are indeed traumatized by it while others grew up understanding what happen/got over it.





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So sad to see this. How do you let your 10 year old kid get so obese? That's child abuse/neglect right there. As a parent, you have to be responsible for the child's physical well being, not just mental well being. Yes, the kid is pretty annoying but the mom is the worst. Kids don't just turn bad suddenly one day. The parents need to teach him everyday what's right, wrong, acceptable and not ignore it until one day the kid has become a monster.

He needs more discipline but to say it's ok to beat a kid is just asinine. You can be strict without resorting to violence. Only the lowest of the low human beings resort to violence, and we definitely don't want our kids to think it is ok and repeat the cycle on their future kids.
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CinaminLips wrote:

ahhhhh yes i do think/know that children act out like that even in a kind and loving household, i've seen it plenty of times. the only reason why he acted like that is because he got away with it the first time. that kind of behavior that is that out of control doesn't just appear out of no where over a couple of months. it's pretty obvious that he'd been like that for a while seeing how they both (the mother and son) acted. the only way this kid was neglected or abused was by not being put in his place when this behavior started.






And does that mean he needed to get smacked? No. I Never said she need to discipline her child, not in the way the chimps in this thread are supposing to do it though. Ignorant suppositions don't change statistics.
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Well, I'm not a parent BUT i will say this i wasn't allowed to hold a tone like that to my mother for very long or my dad would come woop the shit out of me... My mother wouldn't have to but she would probably have slapped me. I never would have dreamed of hitting my mom that just never crossed my mind...

With that said i think the kid was told by producers to do this for the show.. i find it sad if this kid acts like this for real... i did notice him look away at a camera or someone in the middle of his rant.... But, another thing i would like to ask those parents that use timeout... not saying your methods won't work with some kids but if your kid acts like this or you know of one do you really think timeout will work??
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BionicSquid wrote:

And does that mean he needed to get smacked? no. Never said nobody needed to discipline their child, not in the way the chimps in this thread are supposing to do it though.



There's always family counseling for both mom and son, therapy for the kid and/or mom separably, boot camping for the kid, or mom needs to step up her game without "beating" him.

Seriously, even though the kid should get smacked back the mom deserve one as well. They both have problems worth getting addressed.


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Allonan wrote:

Well, I'm not a parent BUT i will say this i wasn't allowed to hold a tone like that to my mother for very long or my dad would come woop the shit out of me... My mother wouldn't have to but she would probably have slapped me. I never would have dreamed of hitting my mom that just never crossed my mind...

With that said i think the kid was told by producers to do this for the show.. i find it sad if this kid acts like this for real... i did notice him look away at a camera or someone in the middle of his rant.... But, another thing i would like to ask those parents that use timeout... not saying your methods won't work with some kids but if your kid acts like this or you know of one do you really think timeout will work??


Truth be told, there are children out there that will do this to a parent(s), even if the parent(s) NEVER ONCE laid a hand on them. The show is Dr. Phil and I doubt he would have the kid to do something like that when it clear he needs some help...............mostly his mom though. If your gonna be real then you shouldn't have any problems with doing the same on television. I'm sure that kid was serious about hitting her like that.
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