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Why is sex seen as indecent?
Posted 11/18/13 , edited 11/18/13

qualeshia3 wrote:

Nowadays, it seems like sex is more important than romance especially when it comes to appearances.
The more beautiful/sexually attractive the person looks is the likely chance that person is great in bed. If a person isn't attractive sexually and appearance wise it's like "who the hell wanna have sex with that person?".

Sex gets treated like a race/game to out do the other when it shouldn't be. Nobody really cares about romance when they rather have sex.

Just my honest opinion.
[not everyone is like that though.]



that is very true and very sad! romance is getting lost somewhere but it's not completely gone yet. It seems teenagers are more prone to eat with their eyes only, but some of us know that some dishes might not look tasty but they taste delicious!

This reminds me of the article I read about the lack of sexual desire in Japan among young people. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/young-people-japan-stopped-having-sex
This is due to the lack of intimacy since fewer people see "love and family" as important and prefer to have one night stands or casual sex, watch hentai or have virtual gfs/bfs..

...it wouldn't be bad to have that in third world countries and even here in USA where girls are getting pregnant by the second but it seems the more civilize and near perfect a society is, the less time to reproduce they'll have...like Japan.

Speaking of which, the OP mentioned something as sex being necessary to continue our species...well, we are over populated and pregnancy is getting out of hand!! population drop wouldn't be a bad thing, actually.
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Well it's kinda gross you know.

Objectively speaking.
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Posted 11/21/13 , edited 11/21/13

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Now, now. We're the highest consumers of porn because unlike other countries who are open about it, we're all closet perverts.

And sex is viewed as indecent is because of men. If men were better at sex, women would start viewing sex as decent.


All jokes aside, its not really indecent as long as you're not doing anything wrong. Legally, that is. It's just something that should be private.


Now don't quote me on it, but men being perverted is a rather modern way of thinking. The classic "all women are lustful and can't control themselves" is the classic/old style of thinking. I remember reading that in our greek times "A man unable to control his primal urges was no better than a woman, and seen as weak". Or so the Romans saw it, or the Greeks....SOMEONE back then. It's changed towards the opposite nowadays but the same connotations are in it, sex (outside of the purity and love style) is considered wrong.


The ancient Greeks thought the play Lysistrata by Aristophanes was hysterical because the main premise was that the Athenian women would withhold sex from men until they stopped the war with Sparta and the idea that woman could actually restrain their sexual urges to do this was the main source of humor.

Also, just look at all the stories about Women as temptresses, leading poor innocent men astray.

A lot of Western and American sexual views come from the idea of controlling inheritance and property. Women were treated as property in many societies and in some ways still are in some places of the world. Uncontrolled sex goes against control of property and wives and daughters are the property. Christianity also holds sex in a poor light, with Paul grudgingly saying that it is better to be married than burn in hell, but with the implication that it is even better to be sexually pure.

Poor sex education and abstinence education is about controlling kids. If they are given limited information then they will have limited choices. Doesn't seem to work very well, but that is the roots of it.

Sex would be less of a big deal if it was more out in the open. Keeping it under wraps makes it mysterious, kinda dangerous and upholds that amazing forbidden fruit image that sex has for many teenagers.

America seems to view sex as more indecent than many European countries. Content that is violent is considered far worse than sexual content in some countries, but in America, violence is glorified while sex is kept hidden. Yet, while sex is more open in many European countries, they have lower teen pregnancy rates than the USA. Kinda makes you think which way is better if the goal is to lower teen pregnancy.

I believe we would be better off as a society if sex was discussed more openly. Both the good and the bad, the pleasant and the messy parts of it. There are a lot of couples who have trouble talking about sex with each other, who would probably have more fulfilling sex lives and less porn viewing if they were comfortable talking about it. And I think there would be less teen pregnancy. Some teens may hold off longer due to sex being less of a mystery and others would have good information on how to eliminate as much as possible the chance of pregnancy.
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The ancient Greeks thought the play Lysistrata by Aristophanes was hysterical because the main premise was that the Athenian women would withhold sex from men until they stopped the war with Sparta and the idea that woman could actually restrain their sexual urges to do this was the main source of humor.

Also, just look at all the stories about Women as temptresses, leading poor innocent men astray.

A lot of Western and American sexual views come from the idea of controlling inheritance and property. Women were treated as property in many societies and in some ways still are in some places of the world. Uncontrolled sex goes against control of property and wives and daughters are the property. Christianity also holds sex in a poor light, with Paul grudgingly saying that it is better to be married than burn in hell, but with the implication that it is even better to be sexually pure.

Poor sex education and abstinence education is about controlling kids. If they are given limited information then they will have limited choices. Doesn't seem to work very well, but that is the roots of it.

Sex would be less of a big deal if it was more out in the open. Keeping it under wraps makes it mysterious, kinda dangerous and upholds that amazing forbidden fruit image that sex has for many teenagers.

America seems to view sex as more indecent than many European countries. Content that is violent is considered far worse than sexual content in some countries, but in America, violence is glorified while sex is kept hidden. Yet, while sex is more open in many European countries, they have lower teen pregnancy rates than the USA. Kinda makes you think which way is better if the goal is to lower teen pregnancy.

I believe we would be better off as a society if sex was discussed more openly. Both the good and the bad, the pleasant and the messy parts of it. There are a lot of couples who have trouble talking about sex with each other, who would probably have more fulfilling sex lives and less porn viewing if they were comfortable talking about it. And I think there would be less teen pregnancy. Some teens may hold off longer due to sex being less of a mystery and others would have good information on how to eliminate as much as possible the chance of pregnancy.


I would say society is as educated about sex as it's ever been. Our society has a wealth of discussion going on, with places such as this having conversations about the most niche of subjects. Sexual education is taught through the internet nowadays, and such a wide range of education does this provide.

While it's still something hidden and unspoken, it's education is out there.

My dad has 9 children, and been divorced 3 times. I don't know how he did it. I will never ask him about it, I will trust random comments online before I ask my dad about it. It's part of how I was raised.

That said, if I need to learn anything else, from how to make fiberglass for my cosplay to how to raise a child, I go to my dad.

Seriously, Greatest dad ever, worst husband ever.

As much as I trust him, I will not ask.
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Posted 11/21/13 , edited 11/21/13
it's the shit songs, shitty tv shows and shitty fakes around the world that gain popularity thus become influential hence create a symbol of this image viewed upon but then again history has a play in this & people have a million different opinions

oh and media showcasing rape again and again, which degrades the view of sex being used to show affection ---------------->reproduction

sex is evidence of crime. sex is used as a tool. Jackass kids grow up being bigger jackasses. If the world was filled with happiness and sex was a common symbol of love then maybe this 'indecency' wouldn't be viewed upon the society.

it's a complete mystery when we grow up - internet has created this bridge to increase knowledge but the revealing of such things express different feelings when seen, which grows in attachment leading to many young lads getting on it.

A group called 'Roastbusters' were recently on our tv news regarding the fact that 'Roastbusters' were a Facebook group of boys aged 16-18 that aimed to 'roast' drunken underaged girls at parties. When I heard that, it was one of the most appalling news our country has ever been revealed to about teens. I couldn't imagine how my own parents would've thought of this, let alone the country. I think you can figure out what the term 'roast' was used for.

i probably don't make any sense but life would be greater if everyone was on the same page - which could happen but reality says it'll never happen. we are all unique, we all have diff values and are very diverse. sex is used in many different ways, seen in many different ways, but a small percentage of crime involving sex can change one's perspective on it.

soz for the 2 cents but this is just another opinion from a youth





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I think sex shouldn't be a topic that's everywhere...
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Because our society views the human body as something to be ashamed of.
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I dont know what you are talking about! Sex sells! Just look at my pic! peace over war
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Posted 12/10/13
If you find sex Indecent?Perfect.More for me!
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Posted 12/10/13

kirika202
(Btw, I actually think that America is very open when it comes to sexuality, try visiting other continents and you'll see they're not as "open minded" as us).


I once heard that in America, when parents take their kids to the local pool and the two are of seperate genders (say, a mother and a 5 - 8 year old son for instance), the mother would send her son into the men's changing room rather than taking him with her to change with her.
Is this true?



kirika202
As for casual sex, we are not animals to be sleeping around with anyone and everyone. We have a mind to think and feelings so it should be important to us who we are having sex with.


Why?




kirika202
Of course not everyone thinks this way and those who like casual sex...good for them, as long as they're responsible, I don't mind..... but I get very disappointed in people nowadays when the girl gets pregnant and the kid is an unwanted child who comes to this world without a father or when someone gets infected. That's why it's not alright to teach just sex but also the consequences of it.


Isn't that what usually goes on in sex-ed?



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Teach the children the morals and values of a family and what it means to be a 'partner', it is not just about sex and feeling good. It is because we have lost the meaning of morality and values that many girls are getting pregnant at age 10-13 and adults are raping little kids.


I can't say I agree with this.
The morals that says that kids shouldn't have sex, and that adults shouldn't be raping kids are very much intact indeed.
If anything, those particular morals are stronger than ever.





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I don't think adults see sex as bad but it is something that should be kept behind closed doors just like we keep our naked bodies hidden by clothes (we don't think our bodies are indecent, right?) and we should only expose our naked bodies to that special someone.


That is indeed the case. But the question is WHY do we think like that?





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There are prostitutes everywhere, if the guy feels the need to have sex, he should just seek one...or go to his wife.


What if he doesn't have a wife/partner?
And sure, he COULD seek out a prostitute... Problem there is that prostitution, as well as buying sex is illegal in most places in the western world (stupid in my opinion, but oh well). Not to mention that it carries a LOT of stigma with it. So there's no wonder why many don't want to do that.

Sure, both of those things are the case for sex crimes as well, but if it was much easier to get laid, there's a good chance that even the drunkards wouldn't resort to sex crimes.





kirika202
I don't think that viewing sex as normal as getting a drink it is the solution for having less sex crimes, those perverts will do what they do because they are sick and not because they feel any kind of sexual repression.


What makes you so sure about that?





kirika202
I think it would actually provoke a mindset of "I can stick my d*ck anywhere I want without getting in trouble!"
Thus, causing more rape cases, especially with little kids who are the more vulnerable.,,,so, this is not the solution since everyone is different and not everyone will feel comfortable in that kind of society.


Why? There's nothing that indicates that such would be the case.












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oh and media showcasing rape again and again, which degrades the view of sex being used to show affection ---------------->reproduction.


As far as I've seen, the media always portrays rape as something horrible.



lowcee
If the world was filled with happiness and sex was a common symbol of love then maybe this 'indecency' wouldn't be viewed upon the society.


Have you ever seen a romantic comedy? Or even sex themed comedy-movies like "Sex Drive" or "Zack & Miri Make a Porn"?



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A group called 'Roastbusters' were recently on our tv news regarding the fact that 'Roastbusters' were a Facebook group of boys aged 16-18 that aimed to 'roast' drunken underaged girls at parties. When I heard that, it was one of the most appalling news our country has ever been revealed to about teens. I couldn't imagine how my own parents would've thought of this, let alone the country. I think you can figure out what the term 'roast' was used for.


Was it not a news story that was viewed as something negative?
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Sex isn't something to be shy about or hide when you are older.
Most people are more open about it rather then put themselves into denial or simply don't care for it at all.
Go social.
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Of course, I guess most would agree that sex is a great thing as long as it's consensual and not a painful experience (e.g. for some women with a certain condition sex can be painful). Some get turned on when doing it in public places, while others would not be able to engage in coital sensations knowing that someone is watching them. Some feel ashamed about their body, and some flaunt it off at every opportunity that presents itself to them. It's a matter of attitude, upbringing and so on.

Technically, the media in Europe is pretty much sexual, and that in every aspect. Perfume ad? Without naked flesh incomplete. Movies? Without at least one sex scene it won't sell as well. Basically, sex is deeply ingrained in every social aspect of our society - unconsciously, consciously.

Personally, I feel really annoyed about movies, where quite obviously the sex scene between the two lovers or haters represents the climax of the film, of the lovers' relationship. I don't need to see 5-10 min. or more how two actors are screwing each others on a film set in front of cams, I want to see storyline - that's what I like about old films - a kiss, a short black screen implied what was going on and the next scene already showed how the story would go on. There was no need to show sweaty bodies to make a point. I'm not saying that it's always inappropriate in film, but I feel that it is being overused and abused just to sell a few more copies.

So, I don't have anything against sex. But I don't need to be reminded of it at every corner, and most of all, I don't really have the urge to see others doing it around me...especially without me.
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So, I don't have anything against sex. But I don't need to be reminded of it at every corner, and most of all, I don't really have the urge to see others doing it around me...especially without me.


That last line reminds me of something I heard and believe in myself. Sex is not a spectator sport. One reason I don't go to strip clubs. If there is sexual stuff going on around me, I want to be apart of it.
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Sex is good but the motivations behind it depends. Sex is where energies exchange between two people and is a very intimate and spiritual ritual if you will. If you are promiscuous with multiple partners, your psyche would be kind of screwed up. Your damaged soul and mind will just produce more of "you". No one wants damaged goods. I turned down women when they asked me for sex because I only have sex with someone that I really want to connect emotionally, intellectually, spiritually and physically. And stupid girls go "are you gay?"

Having said that, if they have huge boobs and hot figure especially if she squats. I would take them on.
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Posted 2/14/14 , edited 2/14/14

Rena-Ryuuguu wrote:

Just wondering why society sees sex as something indecent. It is necessary to continue our species. Obviously our parents did it so we could be born. It is a form of intimacy in relationships.



That's cause of the long religious influence on our societies, they worked hard to demonize that which would otherwise be natural behaviour. Religion is strongly engraved into the state and things wont change as long religious zealots try to control people's life..
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