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Post Reply Interesting read on Japan's shrinking birth rate.
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Posted 10/21/13
That's a little sad....everyone needs a little love at some point. But as far as birth rates go, I think it's a good thing. I'm not trying to sound like some evil baby/children hating freak, but with all the crazy and STUPID shit happening in the world lately it seems unfair to bring such pure and innocent beings into this mess.
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I just think my American sensibilities are struggling to understand "I can't be bothered to have sex".....But it's fun -_-. (At least it's suppose to be anyway. Fumbling around like trying to stick a USB connector in doesn't help.)
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loreal_BTFizzle wrote:

That's a little sad....everyone needs a little love at some point. But as far as birth rates go, I think it's a good thing. I'm not trying to sound like some evil baby/children hating freak, but with all the crazy and STUPID shit happening in the world lately it seems unfair to bring such pure and innocent beings into this mess.


Crazy and stupid shit has been happening since man decided to get together and form societies.

I can sympathize with some of the earlier points though. Overpopulation is a very real problem we're going to run into within the next few decades, so maybe having localized regions that trend towards population decline isn't necessarily a bad thing. As things stand in the world now, we can either conscientously take measures towards shrinking the population, or we can wait until resource depletion and famine shrinks our population for us.

My impression from the article though is that a lot of the blame can be assigned to the hyper work-oriented culture they have over there. Obviously if women are forced to choose between a career, or a stay-at-home mother, more women are going to choose the former. Japan needs to tweak their work culture to solve this issue.
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Posted 10/22/13
Man that article is long, I got halfway.

I find it kind of funny, if Japan goes extinct because of lack of interest.

It's all an illuminati plot to slowly take over Japan without anyone knowing, lol.
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Is it we work to live or we live to work in the Japanese society?
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What a coincidence, I also read this article yesterday. Immediately made me think of something else on these forums, I come here to check, and here we are!


qualeshia3 wrote:

Is it we work to live or we live to work in the Japanese society?


This article makes it seem like a 'live to work' situation. Singles are so involved in their jobs that they see long-term relationships and families as a hassle and barrier to their success. Which, in some cases, is true. You have to give up a bit of your career if you have a family. But in Japan, it's especially bad for women, since after they are married and have children, they're seen as pretty much useless in any working industry. That's a tough blow to a woman's independence. And the men see it as they have to give up their true passion if they get married, because it's more about making enough money than doing what you love. Like the guy who works in fashion.

I think this situation could be remedied by more support for women's opportunities in Japanese culture. It really has nothing to do with a lack of religion of whatever the article says. Women don't want to give up their independence to have a family. Men don't want to give up their independence to support a wife. So, if the wife can support herself and do what she wants, problem solved! Everyone's happy! (I know it's not that simple, but bear with me, I think this is a huge part of it.)

Ironically, the opposite is true for virtually everywhere else in the world. More women empowerment = less marriage and babies, usually. Opportunities for women have been touted as a tool against rising populations in countries like India. Some European countries are beginning to see issues with declining populations because more women are working instead of building a family. But Japan is a special case. Their culture of limiting women has collided with the more Western ideas of women independence, and this is the result. Now they need to play catch-up.
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Pff, I have great plan for Japan! *Poke holes in the condoms that are for sale* Problem solved.

^Well yeah, well said above, I think it's a problem with the whole situation between Japan's view on an woman's independence in the working industry after having a child, I mean if they fixed this, they would at least have gotten rid of this problem..

The other which involves that people rather want to work, hmm, well that's tricky, because it's their choice to work, even though it hurts the country, it isn't their say to tell what people should be doing in these kind of situations.
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It must be infuriating for the Chinese, stuck with the One-child policy, to see the Japanese just across the water willingly limiting their birth rate because "it just isn't worth the trouble". One day we'll probably find out this was just the Japanese trolling the Chinese.
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I'm from a country with only four million people in it. And we almost took over the world once, back when we had less than one million. So I fail to see what the problem is.
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dankuuwut wrote:

I'm from a country with only four million people in it. And we almost took over the world once, back when we had less than one million. So I fail to see what the problem is.


Nobody is having sex in Japan and by 2060 the pop is estimated to drop from 126 million to around 84 million, which is bad.
Posted 10/22/13

JayVeeDees wrote:

Pff, I have great plan for Japan! *Poke holes in the condoms that are for sale* Problem solved.


I'm with you on this.

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dankuuwut wrote:

I'm from a country with only four million people in it. And we almost took over the world once, back when we had less than one million. So I fail to see what the problem is.


Nobody is having sex in Japan and by 2060 the pop is estimated to drop from 126 million to around 84 million, which is bad.

On what account is that either good or bad?
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Posted 10/22/13
The Japanese government isn't at fault, rather it is the Japanese culture that is causing the decline.

-Men are working too hard to bother getting in a relationship
-Women don't want to lose their independency and waste opportunities

Only way to fix it is to give some kind of benefit to being married and having kids while fixing sexism in the country.
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Well, if their reproductive problem continues its course without any solution, we could experience a dying culture. It definitely won't happen during our lifetime, but if Japan stays as conservative and xenophobic as what I've been told of them to be, then that would be the most likely outcome. I'm not sure whether that would be a positive or negative thing to you, but I certainly find that concerning.
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Posted 10/22/13
I have a much better plan, and it involves me packing up and moving to Japan. It may also involve me having a harem. Later I shall be known by the Japanese as 'The One Man Solution.'

Jokes aside, I think its up to the people to decide whether they want to have relationships and children.
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