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Posted 10/22/13 , edited 10/22/13
Well I was thinking about this subject, now that I was in school, me and a couple of classmates were talking about which subject we should have as our class project, so we thought of this subject, addiction.
While reading about what it is, how you define addiction. It made me think, how we see addiction in our community, how do we know if we are addicted to our daily lives, we have habits, jobs, our routines and it made me think, how can we be sure as to what we can become addicted of and what we can't. Can we become addicted of simple things if we did them enough? Could we become addicted of just punching the wall, if we did it too often-.-
It's tricky.
Drugs on the other hand, there is a reason why they have such a pull on people with an addiction. They mess up your brain chemistry by giving it some other chemicals that "trick" the brain, making it think that it needs these drugs, even though they are bad for you.


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- What do you think of addiction in general, not the object/subject people are addicted too, but the addiction it self.

- How do you think of a person that is addicted to a drug and/or addicted to a certain activity.

- Do you think there can be an addiction for being too lazy or too active?

- Difference between Habit and addiction.
- Difference between obsession and addiction.

- Have you ever had/have an addiction which you got rid of or are planning on getting rid of
- - Was it tough getting rid of it? / Is it hard trying to get rid of it?



Thanks your answers would be much appreciated. :)
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Hi, I'm Schmeh and I'm addicted to anime.

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I blame endorphins for all

my addiction, porn...
actually still can't get rid of it...
I'm just gonna cold turkey it one day
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Posted 10/22/13

JayVeeDees wrote:

Woops, this should be in extended discussions?


Moved.
Posted 10/22/13 , edited 10/22/13
A quick look at wiki, breaks addiction down into these themes for your potential paragraphs

- Dependency

- Short term gratification

- Long term cost

- Motivation

- Cravings

- Withdrawal

- Personality

- How hard it is to fix

"Can we become addicted of simple things if we did them enough? Could we become addicted of just punching the wall, if we did it too often-.-"

Depends on how you see it, if you acknowledge it as an addition then it is.
Look for th presence of these factors. Does It takes effort to stop? Are you insensitive or unapologetic as you do it but feel bad over time?





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I have to admit that I could fill up some stuff on each theme that -tion wrote.
But, I'm not going to share it. I don't want to show my weaknesses.

One thing I could share is "obsession."
I'm obsess on playing basketball. It's the sport I excel and able to take part.
I'm playing because it connects to my childhood. I also play because I can see now that people get old (on tvs, social, society, trends, etc.).
I would like to be active till I can no longer do it.
And, I do it because I almost lost a leg. The feeling of simply walking is indescribable. I can't take it for granted.
Posted 10/25/13
I don't think laziness or procrastination counts as an "addiction", because they are more like personality traits. It's the trait of the person to be lazy or industrious. (Sometimes upbringing can influence that trait as well) I mean a person who has to look after himself all his life will more likely to be industrious rather than lazy, whereas a rich kid might be more lazy because he has a maid cleaning after him all the time.


I would say substance or chemicals can cause addiction. For example, I'm addicted to sugar and junk food, because those substances are addictive and cause minor withdrawal symptoms and cravings. But if I don't eat it for a week, I stop having cravings.
I think it's about educating myself and being aware and knowing how to control myself--those are the biggest factors.


As for things like alcohol, cigarettes and illicit drugs, I can't really explain those addictions as I've never had them myself, I've never smoked a cigarette in my life or done any drugs. But I look down on people with those addictions, because I think they lack self-control and give in to societal and peer pressures of finding pleasures from external sources, not from within oneself.

Gambling is another addiction I look down upon.


There are so many things that give pleasure that don't have negative consequences; such as picking up a hobby, playing sports, watching anime, playing video games or listening to music.


I suppose I'm a simple person who enjoys simple things in life. I don't really care about "greater" pleasure or getting high. I don't see the point of doing those things, when being in such a state, I can't even be myself.


I enjoy hugging someone, it gives me a feeling of love and comfort, and I can still be myself... that's the pleasure I want.
Posted 10/27/13


I feel you lack the understanding of why people get addicted to things. It is as simple as figuring out what they lack most in life. Usually the more they lack = higher risk of addiction.
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Posted 10/28/13 , edited 10/28/13

GayAsianBoy wrote:

I don't think laziness or procrastination counts as an "addiction", because they are more like personality traits. It's the trait of the person to be lazy or industrious. (Sometimes upbringing can influence that trait as well) I mean a person who has to look after himself all his life will more likely to be industrious rather than lazy, whereas a rich kid might be more lazy because he has a maid cleaning after him all the time.


I would say substance or chemicals can cause addiction. For example, I'm addicted to sugar and junk food, because those substances are addictive and cause minor withdrawal symptoms and cravings. But if I don't eat it for a week, I stop having cravings.
I think it's about educating myself and being aware and knowing how to control myself--those are the biggest factors.


As for things like alcohol, cigarettes and illicit drugs, I can't really explain those addictions as I've never had them myself, I've never smoked a cigarette in my life or done any drugs. But I look down on people with those addictions, because I think they lack self-control and give in to societal and peer pressures of finding pleasures from external sources, not from within oneself.

Gambling is another addiction I look down upon.


There are so many things that give pleasure that don't have negative consequences; such as picking up a hobby, playing sports, watching anime, playing video games or listening to music.


I suppose I'm a simple person who enjoys simple things in life. I don't really care about "greater" pleasure or getting high. I don't see the point of doing those things, when being in such a state, I can't even be myself.


I enjoy hugging someone, it gives me a feeling of love and comfort, and I can still be myself... that's the pleasure I want.


Well I guess what I'm getting at is, when does ones hobby become an addiction? Of course if I were to pick up, let's say, post card hobby, where I try to get 1 of every post card out there, how much of this can be qualified as an addiction, we all hear about shopping/gambling/etc. are things that people tend to do "A LOT" I mean, I have looked down on people who use drugs as well, I have tried smoking and Alcohol, none were really suited for me, even though had a blast some of the times while "on" these things. I just think that drugs get more attention on this aspect of things instead of the mental part of it, when do we say something becomes an addiction? When it starts hurting you or people around you? Or if you start to do this every single day, all of your life.

Ahh, I don't know how to really explain what I'm getting at, but I try to put an focus on how addiction is seen in the public eyes.. Is it only these few things such as gambling, drugs, etc.? Or could an hobby actually be an addiction, just a minor one.

Something like that.



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I feel you lack the understanding of why people get addicted to things. It is as simple as figuring out what they lack most in life. Usually the more they lack = higher risk of addiction.


I know fully well what an addiction is, but I try to put an focus on how it is spread out to be. And addiction is something you crave for, something you really want, even though you hurt yourself trying to get this? That's a drug addiction, something that changes your brain chemistry into thinking that you need these specific drugs to keep on living. But I'm talking more about the mental part of the whole process, why does gambling become an addiction, and a hobby not?

Something like that <.<<
Posted 10/28/13 , edited 10/28/13
When suicide is not an option you resort to mental suicide. That is addiction.
Posted 10/28/13

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Well I guess what I'm getting at is, when does ones hobby become an addiction? Of course if I were to pick up, let's say, post card hobby, where I try to get 1 of every post card out there, how much of this can be qualified as an addiction, we all hear about shopping/gambling/etc. are things that people tend to do "A LOT" I mean, I have looked down on people who use drugs as well, I have tried smoking and Alcohol, none were really suited for me, even though had a blast some of the times while "on" these things. I just think that drugs get more attention on this aspect of things instead of the mental part of it, when do we say something becomes an addiction? When it starts hurting you or people around you? Or if you start to do this every single day, all of your life.

Ahh, I don't know how to really explain what I'm getting at, but I try to put an focus on how addiction is seen in the public eyes.. Is it only these few things such as gambling, drugs, etc.? Or could an hobby actually be an addiction, just a minor one.

Something like that.


I think when it starts affecting your every day life.
Like when you're supposed to go to work, you spend time doing that hobby instead, whether it be gambling or Facebook.
Posted 10/30/13
When I start getting migraines because I need caffeine
Posted 10/31/13
An addiction for me is when something is damaging your life(physically, socially and mentally) and you can't control it because you feel like you need it while it makes you miserable inside. Anything can become an addiction.

Drugs and hobbies, if taken to the extreme, are like this. If I'm lazy to the extreme, to the point where you don't work, shower and don't go out, can also become a problem.

I had the addiction of spending money, I would feel good spending that money on my hobbies and then I would cry because I didn't have money but I'd still spend like crazy it took me to lose a job and wake up to reality to stop spending money, now I have the addiction to sweets but I'm working on that. I think drug addiction is worse than anything else because you have the chemicals in your body that won't let you stop because it controls your mind and body. Whereas with gambling or hobby addiction, you can force yourself to stop, even with laziness you can change easily, but some people kill or prostitute themselves for drugs.
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- What do you think of addiction in general, not the object/subject people are addicted too, but the addiction it self.
it depends on the addiction. Some addictions (in some circumstances) can be seen as positive and are socially accepted.. such as being a workaholic or perfectionist can be seen, and is generally a good thing to be in the workplace. Or being addicted to.. doing good deeds might be a better example. Whereas.. being addicted to killing people or torturing kittens is not such a socially accepted addiction.

- How do you think of a person that is addicted to a drug and/or addicted to a certain activity.
No particular way, I feel sorry+sad for them and their family.

- Do you think there can be an addiction for being too lazy or too active?
I don't think there can be, i know there is.

- Difference between Habit and addiction.
- Difference between obsession and addiction.
wiki or DSM it.

- Have you ever had/have an addiction which you got rid of or are planning on getting rid of
- - Was it tough getting rid of it? / Is it hard trying to get rid of it?

Yes, here were some i've overcome. Not particularly difficult after realizing and deciding to... it really is like how they say 'acceptance is the 1st step' .. or admittance or whatever it is =_=
I have at least one now,.. that has lasted on/off ~6-7yrs.. but this one i probably can't completely get rid off by myself.. i don't really want help with it.. and since it's not immediately killing me, and not that frequent now, i can't be stuffed to face it =_=

"Could we become addicted of just punching the wall, if we did it too often-.- "
addiction is not exactly about just repeating an action/behaviour.. usually it's because it's positively reinforced by something that makes the person WANT to do it again. For instance, punching a wall.. how it could become an addiction is why selfharm is an addiction. Pain releases endorphins, endorphins make you feel good, --> repeat, or because physical pain takes your mind of emotional pain, which is usually preferable.

Anyways, if you find this stuff interesting, it'd be good to take a psychology class, you can find your answers in a highschool psycho class.
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Ex-Alcoholic, and smoker here. (William)

- What do you think of addiction in general, not the object/subject people are addicted too, but the addiction it self.

Some addictions are simply just......wrong, while I view most, if not all, addictions as 'wrong', some are just more 'wrong' than others. Masturbating, is an addiction that's 'wrong' in the sense of it controlling you, but sucking dick on the corner of the street to feed your addiction to crack is 'wrong...er' if that makes any sense.

- How do you think of a person that is addicted to a drug and/or addicted to a certain activity.

I definitely look down on people that are addicted, but try to help them at the same time. A friend of mine is currently addicted to a drug and alcohol, I've been trying to help him, but I know how difficult it is.

- Do you think there can be an addiction for being too lazy or too active?

Not being too lazy, no, but too active, yes. You can have an addiction to over-exercising.

- Difference between Habit and addiction.

A habit is something that you do, but can stop at any time, addiction is something that you do that if you were to stop, you would have withdrawl. To a certain extent anyway.

- Difference between obsession and addiction.

Obsessing over something is getting actual enjoyment over what you're doing, and aren't clinging to it mentally.

- Have you ever had/have an addiction which you got rid of or are planning on getting rid of

Yes, I was a high-functioning alcoholic for atleast 8 months. I'd wake up, take atleast 2 or 3 shots of whiskey, head off to class, have a small sip in the washroom during break, then drink when I got home until I passed out basically. I also smoked, but it wasn't nearly as bad as my addiction to drinking.

- - Was it tough getting rid of it? / Is it hard trying to get rid of it?

It was one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. Just before I started dating Kerrigan (...Just look at the name), I wanted to make myself look and feel as best as I could for her, we were best friends for a couple months before and she knew about my issues. So a week before dating her, I quit smoking, drinking, and drugs all in the same day. Cold f**king turkey. Literally one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life, but it was worth it. The withdrawal is probably the worse part, I was sick and was constantly sweating, wanting....no, NEEDING a drink, a smoke, anything. Mind constantly racing, trying to find something to replace it, or to find a way to get one more drink. Went FULLY away after about 7 weeks. I still get the urge to have a drink here or there, but I'm able to control it. Exactly two months ago I had a single mixed drink, and I can happily say that I didn't crave another, I drank it for a celebration, and I was able to walk away from that party completely sober.

TL;DR: It's literally the hardest thing you will EVER do.
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