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Posted 12/7/13 , edited 12/7/13

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How did you think Evangelion got so big to what it is now? It takes years to build something like Evangelion so maybe PMMM is still not as big as Evangelion but with non ending tie-ins and a movie every few years then it will continue building it's fanbase like Evangelion.

PMMM is the only anime atm that has the potential to be another Evangelion so I can't blame Iwakami and Shinbo if they try to make it another Evangelion. After all the money involved in all of this is no laughing matter.


I just don't think it's every going to be the next Evangelion. Eva's too big over there, just like Gundam.

A movie every few years would dry it out fast. The three new ones were kind of stretching it, in my opinion. The series is fine as it is. They should've adapted the spin-off mangas instead. There's around three of them so far, maybe four. Those would be more than enough.

Like I said... it takes years to build something like Evangelion. PMMM is only 2 years old and sure it is not as big as Evangelion(almost 2 decades old) right now but it is very big indeed.

And releasing a movie every few years is what Evangelion have been doing right? Evangelion didn't need a new animated spin off to keep the hype. Just endless tie ins and a few movies every few years.
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Posted 12/7/13 , edited 12/7/13

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And releasing a movie every few years is what Evangelion have been doing right? Evangelion didn't need a new animated spin off to keep the hype. Just endless tie ins and a few movies every few years.


Well, yes, I understand that, it's just that what Eva accomplished was something on a larger scale than PMMM ever did and thus, I don't think PMMM could come close. With time and the right marketing, sure, but never (alright, highly unlikely) on Eva's scale.

I was saying that the spin-offs would bring more in for them than doing movies.



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Posted 12/7/13
Just saw the movie and I have to say, for an absolutely pointless endeavor, it was pretty enjoyable...not sure what I think of the ending though. Really, for a film made only to grab more money and provide some fanservice, it was pretty good.



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I just saw it today and it was amazing. After marathoning the series this week and catching the little things at the end of the final episode, I was not fully surprised about some aspects leading up to the conclusion, but was shocked on the execution! One of my favorite anime movies ever!...maybe because I am also a fan of the Evangelion series and rebuild movies, including 3.0



The fans are going to be split on this one I think based off the final events that occurred. I for one loved it.
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Ill just leave this here.....
We were the first few people in Line at Hollywood for the Premiere
made this a few days ago right after watching the movie...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqzOHUs_0gQ
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The thing is, this is exactly why I didn't like the ending. It could have been an interesting and audacious way to change the series, but because it completely comes out of nowhere instead of actually being developed throughout the movie, it feels like they just thought the obvious, fulfilling, consistent ending was too boring and decided to pull an
on us instead. It's about as good of a story as the series would have been if it had ended after episode 3. So, well, there'd better be another movie/season to redirect this towards something less random. Shocking swerves don't make for good conclusions.
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Shrapnel893 wrote:Well, yes, I understand that, it's just that what Eva accomplished was something on a larger scale than PMMM ever did and thus, I don't think PMMM could come close. With time and the right marketing, sure, but never (alright, highly unlikely) on Eva's scale.

I was saying that the spin-offs would bring more in for them than doing movies.

And what is your basis on this? Do you even know how big Eva was back then in 1998 when it was only 2 years old?

Posted 12/7/13
Why so many insults? This was a fantastic movie 10/10 from me, had no problem with it at all. The ending is obviously setting up for another movie or season.


I went to the premiere and waited for 4 1/2 hours because I wanted that Damn Godoka poster before it sold it and I got it.

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I really really enjoy the movie. It had a fantastic art work, enjoyable voice actresses, and an amazing battle scene which would leave you stunt and at the same time leaving you with an appetite for more. The plot left me baffle as I try to understand what happened in the end which shows a very well developed and compelling story, which is not a recap as the previous movies. Also stay for the end of the credits as it has a ending that may suggest for more Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Thanks for your time. >_< ( p.s. Is my very first time watching an anime movie in a theater. xP )
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Posted 12/8/13
All San Francisco showtimes were sold out a month ago.. I guess I will have to wait for the Blu-ray release
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I'll probably end up liking the movie eventually, but I guess it's still a lot of mind screw to absorb, since I was so attached to the original ending (and even that wasn't exactly love at first sight). Still, this really needs a sequel...not to "fix" everything, more because the ending is vague and confusing, and such obvious sequel bait that a lot of people have already decided another movie or season is inevitable.


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All San Francisco showtimes were sold out a month ago.. I guess I will have to wait for the Blu-ray release


If you're able to get all the way there, it looks like the Sacramento showings aren't sold out yet (a bunch got added recently-ish).
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I really want to see this, since I thought the original series was awesome anyway, but since I don't live in the US or near anywhere where it's being shown, I'll have to wait until it goes online..

(I'm wondering if they'd put it on Crunchyroll, by any chance?)
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I read all about the ending because the creator did NOT want that ending (even going to twitter to show the hand-written note making her change it) but was forced by the anime director to change it to what you saw simply because they wanted to expand the franchise. I refuse to see it on principle because of what it alters.


Not sure what you mean...do you have a link to that twitter post?


This was linked in the wiki: http://wiki.puella-magi.net/The_Rebellion_Story/Spoiler#Trivia


Urobuchi was asked by Shinbo and Iwakami to come up with an ending that would allow for the continuation of the franchise.
http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Shinbo_made_me_do_it.jpg
According to the picture/link above, Urobochi believed that this movie would wrap up the whole story.
Shinbo is the true culprit this time around. For some fans, this move to "have fun with torturing the audience" by denying them a happy resolution from the original series could backfire on the writers for the sake of the continuation of the franchise, it somehow reflects Kyubey's greed perceived in the film.
Madoka Magica was always a collective work by Magical Quartet (not only by Gen Urobuchi). The original concept for the Madoka Magica series belongs to Shinbo. Gen has never been in charge of its creation.


(and a correction I wrote her and it's him.. I mixed Madoka's gender into the creator's LOL)
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And what is your basis on this? Do you even know how big Eva was back then in 1998 when it was only 2 years old?



Back in 1998, Eva was 3 year old, technically. But that isn't important.

Anyway, I wasn't talking about how big it was, I was talking about what it accomplished. What's been done in PMMM has been done in other magical girl shows in the past, it's just the writing in it is above par so it's the most recognized one (as well as the most recent). It has the hype, which NGE didn't at first, but really, hype doesn't equate to impact on the industry. NGE had that impact and it still shows today. PMMM didn't (as far as I can see, but then again I'm far sighted ). Also, I'd rather compare PMMM with the likes of Revolutionary Girl Utena, UtaKata, and Alien Nine rather than NGE as they're all part of the same genre. In that regard, I'd rather compare NGE with Bokurano: Ours and Zambot 3.

Now, that isn't to say that in ten years or more PMMM will be as big as NGE, but right now and probably in the next couple years it'll never be. But, I could be totally wrong and by next year we'll be seeing Kyuubey's face on plastic buckets. Though, by then, NGE will have Gendo's face on toilet seat covers.
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MartianMage wrote:

And what is your basis on this? Do you even know how big Eva was back then in 1998 when it was only 2 years old?



Back in 1998, Eva was 3 year old, technically. But that isn't important.

Anyway, I wasn't talking about how big it was, I was talking about what it accomplished. What's been done in PMMM has been done in other magical girl shows in the past, it's just the writing in it is above par so it's the most recognized one (as well as the most recent). It has the hype, which NGE didn't at first, but really, hype doesn't equate to impact on the industry. NGE had that impact and it still shows today. PMMM didn't (as far as I can see, but then again I'm far sighted ). Also, I'd rather compare PMMM with the likes of Revolutionary Girl Utena, UtaKata, and Alien Nine rather than NGE as they're all part of the same genre. In that regard, I'd rather compare NGE with Bokurano: Ours and Zambot 3.

Now, that isn't to say that in ten years or more PMMM will be as big as NGE, but right now and probably in the next couple years it'll never be. But, I could be totally wrong and by next year we'll be seeing Kyuubey's face on plastic buckets. Though, by then, NGE will have Gendo's face on toilet seat covers.

PMMM aired 2010-2011 while Evangelion aired 1995-1996.

You're not making sense. We're not even comparing the shows itself. We're comparing the success. When people say the next Evangelion it means success comparable to Evangelion.

Also if 18 years from now and PMMM is still big in Japan who cares if Evangelion is still bigger? If 18 years from now and PMMM is still big then it already has reached Evangelion status. Are you seriously thinking a new anime can suddenly top an 18 year old sensation? Of course that will never happen and it will be unfair to compare when the subject you're comparing new anime into has an 18 years lead.
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