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Posted 1/19/14 , edited 1/19/14
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I did like the chapter though. Maybe he will get his head out of his ass and do what the most obvious thing is.

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The really sad part about this is what Yuzuki said at the end of chapter 222. (Page 19)

Feel free to look it up, then rage at the fact that Haruto is totally ignoring her wishes!
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The really sad part about this is what Yuzuki said at the end of chapter 222. (Page 19)

Feel free to look it up, then rage at the fact that Haruto is totally ignoring her wishes!


I just reread that. Haruto is a bastard. Just saying.
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Finally finished getting caught up (after being stuck for about three months on Eba leaving for Tokyo) and what do you know, I arrive just in time for the ending. I could see him taking the ending in a much sadder direction with how realistic the rest of the book has been, but if he does that I and just about every other fan of this work will hate him for the rest of his life. The marriage ending is the only good direction left, anything else will end in unfulfillment and sadness. I hope the main story ends in the next two chapters thus giving us an epilogue-ish last chapter..
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Zensunni wrote:

The really sad part about this is what Yuzuki said at the end of chapter 222. (Page 19)

Feel free to look it up, then rage at the fact that Haruto is totally ignoring her wishes!


I didn't remember that exact moment but I do remember something of that sort had already been said. It's just stupid how he acts.

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I didn't remember that exact moment but I do remember something of that sort had already been said. It's just stupid how he acts.



I'm not so sure. I don't think he saw any other viable option. We the readers (and his friends back home) have the advantage of seeing things from further away, and see both the situation and the characters form an outside perspective.
Plus, as readers of a romance story, we're obviously biased towards them getting together whatever the cost. As it's the "happy ending" we're all invested in.

But if we look at it from Haruto's perspective:
- He and Yuzuki and running themselves ragged trying to meet up wherever possible.
- Haruto's job means he can't travel as easily, "forcing" Yuzuki to do all the visiting. With energy and money she can't really afford.
- She passed out from exhaustion right next to him, and he couldn't even get the time off from work to stay by her side at the hospital. (Despite asking)
- Adachi complaining about being proposed to, and being asked to move away from her "dream job" was bound to make Haruto feel guilty about asking the same of Yuzuki.
- When he does make the effort to head back to Tokyo, he's ordered back to work before even getting to spend any decent time with Yuzuki.

When faced with all that, there's no way any solution other than "break" up looks viable. Stood where he is, without the reader's viewpoint, I don't think any other option seem like nit'd do anything other than prolong the inevitable. And potentially result in a much more volatile breakup.

Granted, the really proper decision would be to reach out of the page and bitchslap the author next time they're railroaded into another roadblock.
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Thank you. That's essentially how I felt. At least this part seemed realistic.
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sewtz wrote:

I didn't remember that exact moment but I do remember something of that sort had already been said. It's just stupid how he acts.



I'm not so sure. I don't think he saw any other viable option. We the readers (and his friends back home) have the advantage of seeing things from further away, and see both the situation and the characters form an outside perspective.
Plus, as readers of a romance story, we're obviously biased towards them getting together whatever the cost. As it's the "happy ending" we're all invested in.

But if we look at it from Haruto's perspective:
- He and Yuzuki and running themselves ragged trying to meet up wherever possible.
- Haruto's job means he can't travel as easily, "forcing" Yuzuki to do all the visiting. With energy and money she can't really afford.
- She passed out from exhaustion right next to him, and he couldn't even get the time off from work to stay by her side at the hospital. (Despite asking)
- Adachi complaining about being proposed to, and being asked to move away from her "dream job" was bound to make Haruto feel guilty about asking the same of Yuzuki.
- When he does make the effort to head back to Tokyo, he's ordered back to work before even getting to spend any decent time with Yuzuki.

When faced with all that, there's no way any solution other than "break" up looks viable. Stood where he is, without the reader's viewpoint, I don't think any other option seem like nit'd do anything other than prolong the inevitable. And potentially result in a much more volatile breakup.

Granted, the really proper decision would be to reach out of the page and bitchslap the author next time they're railroaded into another roadblock. ;)


After having calmed down a bit and thinking about it, what really bothers me is how it happened. A couple that has been through that much wouldn't break up without discussing it first. They never talked about it, he just blurted it out. I honestly think that if I was his friend I would have hit him. Not to mention that Yuzuki hurt him badly by doing something similar after she moved to Tokyo.
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After having calmed down a bit and thinking about it, what really bothers me is how it happened. A couple that has been through that much wouldn't break up without discussing it first. They never talked about it, he just blurted it out. I honestly think that if I was his friend I would have hit him. Not to mention that Yuzuki hurt him badly by doing something similar after she moved to Tokyo.


I blame that on "narrative style". It is more dramatic to have things like that happen just as the train doors close, each person dropping to their knees as they are moved further apart.

Like I said I blame things like that on the author, not the characters. As I can pretty much see them being railroaded b the pen. ;-)

Having said that, sometimes people do just blurt things out before fully thinking them through. Or a conclusion seems obvious, even though the timing being bad should be (but isn't) equally obvious.

The thing that also strikes me, though, is that Yuzuki doesn't try to argue the point. She's shocked, yes, but she agrees. If she'd even said "Why" or tried calling him later, it might have pulled Haruto up short.

Ultimately, I think they're both exhausted from the effort. They don't want the relationship to fail, and if either one of them had the strength to keep fighting they probably both would keep going. But they're both feeling the strain, in part by seeing what it's doing to the other person.
I think whoever had suggested breaking up first, the other would have agreed.
Neither of them want to. Neither of them like it...

...and neither of them are looking at it properly.

It's almost like reverse selfishness. Both of them are thinking of the other. Seeing the strain the other is going through. both want the other to be happy.
But because neither of them are thinking their own happiness, neither of them are thinking of "Haruto and Yuzuki: The Couple".

And, as to them not discussion it, I just think they're too drained to think rationally at this point.

Looking metafictionally again, though, especially if the story is drawing to a close it has to go this way. One last period of heartbreak before giving them (and the readers) their long-deserved Happy Ending.
And I suspect it may have to play out with Yuzuki making the next step, because of narrative balance.

It all started with her going to get him. Then he chased her to Tokyo and fought to get her back. It may not ave gone smoothly, but when they next met up they eventually got back together. And although it was mostly mutual, it was Haruto again who had to go the extra step to get Yuzuki back. Dumping a girlfriend and jeopardising his other friendships for Yuzuki's sake. (It may not have been a nice or smart thing to do, but it wasn't easy either.

Other difficulties have been solved mutually, although sometimes with Haruto debatably having to make slightly more of an effort. (Yuzuki runs away from home, he lets her live with him and gives up his bed, sleeping on the floor at first)

To balance it out, and to bring the story full-circle, I suspect that the ball is now in Yuzuki's court to bring about the Big Happy Ending. (Maybe she proposes to him?)
But for her to be the one to fight to continue the relationship, the story requires Haruto to be the one to suggest they finish it.
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The main problem I have is that he doesn't even care for his job. he works for an alcohol manufacturer and he hates to drink and hates seeing people drunk. The obvious choice is for him to give up his job and live in Tokyo. Maybe he's just scared of not finding another job but that just adds an element of selfishness in him breaking up in the first place.
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The main problem I have is that he doesn't even care for his job. he works for an alcohol manufacturer and he hates to drink and hates seeing people drunk. The obvious choice is for him to give up his job and live in Tokyo. Maybe he's just scared of not finding another job but that just adds an element of selfishness in him breaking up in the first place.


That is a realistic cultural thing though. If he fails at this job within the first year, his prospects of getting hired by another company in the crowded job market are practically nil. Also, he doesn't hate drinking or seeing drunk people. He doesn't drink to excess anymore because he found out some bad things about himself, like clinging to an ex-girlfriend and calling her your current girlfriend's name, but, really, how many of us haven't done that? Right?

What I was impressed with, which I didn't get from the scanilation of the chapter, is the name of the beer: Yuzu no Hana. He clearly named it after the woman he loves. That has to count for something in her book, right?
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Posted 1/25/14 , edited 1/25/14
The quick "lets break up" line is very common in Japanese manga and novels. The characters leaving each other for selfish reasons, one or both of them, only to get back together again at the end, with or without a 1-5 year time skip, is very common (I would list them but that would 'spoil' the predictable ending for all of them, so I shall refrain). It still has me crying for them every time even though I know its coming and I know they'll get back together again, with a kiss and a promise that from now on their love will be forever, usually in the last chapter, usually on the last page.
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was their not supposedly a ova coming out this mouth what happen to it?
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was their not supposedly a ova coming out this mouth what happen to it?
It came with volume 26 of the manga in Japan. You have to wait for someone to illegally rip it and upload it for you, and sub it I guess. It came out on January 17th in Japan.

March 17th will have volume 27 and another OVA.
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it been a week i figure someone by now uploaded by now
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