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Posted 11/3/13 , edited 11/3/13
There's probably another question like this here i can't find it though

Is it okay for me to use something like CyberGhost 5 and mask my ip to US so i can view all the anime catalogs?

There is a lot of restricted anime in my country

or do I get banned from doing this?
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thank you for answering very well i won't mask my ip
i just found about this while using vpn for protecting my ip so when i visited crunchyroll it was like magic
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Posted 11/3/13

uhohimdead wrote:

that's breaking the law, there is a reason those restrictions exist

Do you know where the OP resides? Do you know the laws for every country on earth? Did you even check to see if what you stated was true for even your country, or did you just assume your belief was correct?

While it is likely against the terms of service, that doesn't make it illegal, at least in the United States:
http://gizmodo.com/5901339/its-not-a-crime-to-break-a-terms-of-service-agreement-so-keep-on-not-reading-them

In truth, this ruling dealt with breaking an employer's policies (https://www.eff.org/cases/u-s-v-nosal), but the effect is the same. Any employer would have you "agree" to those terms as a condition of employment, very much like terms of service for the website. Frankly, allowing breaking terms of service to be illegal would be tantamount to allowing companies to create private laws.


As to whether using a VPN itself to bypass region restrictions is legal or not, at least in New Zealand, even lawyers can't agree:
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/493576/circumventing_region-locking_access_netflix_may_illegal/


Keep in mind you are also declaring that someone importing a DVD or BD not encoded for their region and using some means to view it such as a region-free player is also breaking the law.




bambolambo wrote:

thank you for answering very well i won't mask my ip
i just found about this while using vpn for protecting my ip so when i visited crunchyroll it was like magic

Please read my response to the person who replied to you.

If the alternative is that you would pirate the same programming you otherwise would have watched via VPN, viewing via VPN is definitely the lesser "evil", as at least it is contributing to a publisher's revenue.
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Posted 11/3/13

uhohimdead wrote:

I'll admit, I don't know where OP is nor what laws are in effect that region, but that doesn't mean it can't be illegal. I'd rather state that it is illegal and prevent OP from getting into trouble. There's no need to be hostile about it.

So you believe it is good to disseminate information you know may be false, rather than either remaining quiet on a subject you don't know about or simply stating the truth, which is that you believed it to be illegal?

As to my being "hostile", if it makes you think again in the future about such an action, then I consider it fully justified.



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So you believe it is good to disseminate information you know may be false, rather than either remaining quiet on a subject you don't know about or simply stating the truth, which is that you believed it to be illegal?

As to my being "hostile", if it makes you think again in the future about such an action, then I consider it fully justified.





fine fine I'll back off i edited my post,just get off my back.
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Posted 11/3/13

bambolambo wrote:

or do I get banned from doing this?

In the past, CR has indicated they do not advise the use of a VPN. That is no surprise, as it is circumventing the region restrictions put forth by the licensor, and even if CR normally took no action against someone they suspected of using a VPN, they certainly aren't going to say that. Officially they must discourage it, and indeed it is appears to be covered by this section of the terms of service:


Obligations for Crunchyroll Users.

unrelated sections removed for brevity

Circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with security related features of the Site or features that prevent or restrict use or copying of any content;

Forge any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any posting or in any way use the Site or Services to send altered, deceptive or false source-identifying information;


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Posted 11/3/13
oh ok thanks

i don't really read any terms of service my bad
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Posted 11/3/13 , edited 8/25/15

bambolambo wrote:
i don't really read any terms of service my bad

Who does?

Back in the days when I fiddled around with programming, I joked that if I ever published a program, I would put in the terms of service that anyone that violated the license agreement consigned to me their immortal soul, and then see how long it would take for anyone to protest.

There was also one company that put a $1000 prize giveaway in their terms of service. All it required was contacting them, using the directions stated. It took 3000 copies before the prize was claimed:
http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2012/06/12/it-pays-to-read-license-agreements-7-years-later/

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So about the whole region thing...my account was set up in the Uk and I have never used it in another country, so if when I leave England to go to the US will my crunchyroll allow me to watch it as a US viewer or as aUK viewer? seems like a stupid question but yeah :/
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The region is based on the ip of where you currently are, not where your account was created. So if you go to the US, you can view anything available in the US.
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Ah thats good I kind of guessed that it would change because people were using VPN's to dodge it but I needed the clarification thanks man!
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As far as I know, CR has no means to tell if you are circumventing the restrictions... I suppose if you comment on a title youre "not supposed to watch" then they could tell. So if you're gonna do it, I would say don't admit to it.


I think CR would rather you have you use a vpn than watch it "illegally", but they can't come out and say that because of reasons.
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Posted 5/9/14

TheAncientOne wrote:


bambolambo wrote:
i don't really read any terms of service my bad

Who does?

Back in the days when I fiddled around with programming, I joked that if I ever published a program, I would put in the terms of service that anyone that violated the license agreement consigned to me their immortal soul, and then see how long it would take for anyone to protest.



Off topic but, that would be hilarious.
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If you are a US customer and travel to Japan on business purposes does that mean they are not allowed to watch restricted Japanese content while they are in Japan?

Careful how you answer that. As long as crunchyroll takes appropriate measures to secure the content to a country, rest is out of their hands.
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