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Posted 11/7/13
So I was browsing the Manga page and came across the ComiPo! manga and thought it was kinda cool.

I went to check out the website, and it costs $50. I was thinking that it was a pretty good price for what you were getting, but then I saw that there it only includes several eye, hair, mouth, etc. types and only 2 outfits for each gender.

I then saw that there are "Premium Items" you have to buy to get more, like swimsuits and summer items, more uniforms, and stuff like this. And each set costs $15 - $25.

I thought I might try out the program since: 1) my art ability isn't at the level of trying to actually draw it, 2) art supplies are expensive, and 3) I don't have the time to actually try to draw it in the first place, but that is ridiculous.

I'd much rather pay a one time fee, and get all the items, and all future updates than to have to keep paying for each new set to get more to work with. The art supplies would probably be cheaper.

Does anyone have it? Do you think it's worth the price?

Other than that, are there any other programs for manga creation? They don't have to be like comipo where you just insert stuff from the program, it could be a drawing program like photoshop or sai and then also could have backgrounds, toner, bubbles, dividing lines, and stuff that you can add.


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If you find one let me know. I've been looking for a good software for ages. I cannot draw to save my life (my stick figures always look like they got hit by trucks ). But I really want images to go with my stories.
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Posted 11/9/13 , edited 11/10/13
I think Comipo! is an ingenious piece of software, is it worth the money I would say its not bad priced, not exactly of use for me I prefer the nuances
and expressive lines that real artist produce, Comipo! could be useful as a reference tool for storyboarding, camera angles, perspective etc.
I would probably use something more customizable with import capability.
programs such as blender blender.org
and poser etc.
might be more demanding yet more flexible.
pre rigged characters can be found online. use good judgement when it comes to copyrights etc.
http://www.blendswap.com/search?term=rigged+

There's also Google sketchup and MySweethome 3d http://www.sweethome3d.com/index.jsp . for backgrounds.

(note to Comipo users, many skills and concepts that mangaka possess would greatly benefit you, some of those skills are camera angles, paneling, pacing, writing. remember those points next time you play god on those poor Comipeople.)
here's a useful link below.
http://lilrivkah.livejournal.com/168859.html?nojs=1 .

As far as, art programs many can produce fine results. knowledge is better than than the price tag many times.
For print Loominate on Deviantart has many size specification templates,
http://loominate.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=%2Fresources%2Ftutorials&q=manga+template

Of course Manga Studio, MangaLabo, Comicworks, are good because they are designed with manga in mind..

I personally like some of the recent Open source software like KRITA ,GIMP, MyPaint, Inkscape, I also found Pixia, SmoothDraw, to
be interesting.
1.KRITA has a pretty fluid pen pressure. support for textured brushs. Open CL, 8bit,16bit,32bit color. C.M.Y.K support
can be used for screentoning. more info in links below.
http://krita.org/
http://www.davidrevoy.com/article180/krita-brushkit-v3
Safe for print Ame tones that are not scans so no worrying about copyrights.
http://botanycameos.deviantart.com/art/Free-resource-300dpi-Screentones-DOT-pack-398507125
You can crop patterns to seamless smaller files and place them in KRITAS patterns folder. they work nice with Revoy's screentone brush.
2.GIMP http://www.gimp.org/

Image above drawn and toned in gimp.
GIMP has lots of documentation so I won't say to much about it. the newsprint feature is handy for creating your own screen tones.
Heres a small pick of a sample screentone I made.

Iff needed make sure you use proper settings for print.
http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/intermediate/a/measure_lpi.htm
http://lilrivkah.livejournal.com/288928.html?nojs=1&thread=2935968
http://manga-apps.deviantart.com/journal/Screentones-Resource-Compilation-228075401
Screen Printing 45–65 lpi
Laser Printer (300dpi) 65 lpi
Laser Printer (600dpi) 85–105 lpi
Offset Press (newsprint paper) 85 lpi
Offset Press (coated paper) 85–185 lpi
plus here's some links to nice plugins for gimp
Speedlines:
http://reddog.s35.xrea.com/wiki/Speedline.html
http://registry.gimp.org/taxonomy/term/1058
It's not always the art program its the knowledge of the Artist that uses them.


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Posted 11/10/13 , edited 11/10/13
Comipo is okay hobbiest software, if you just want to make a fairly standard school boy manga than it really is great.

It fails for anything more creative then student based romantic comedies, harem manga and that sort of thing.

For example if you want to do a battle manga then the material you need simply isn't there, period pieces would be difficult as well. Mecha and sci-fi mangas are also out of the question.

For the money, it's good for what it is. It's also a good tool to learn now to draw manga, you can setup scenes and practice tracing printed out images. Once you get good, you can even use the software as a kind of scene designer, then come in with pen and ink, or adobe illustrator (inkscape, a free alternative also does a reasonable job tracing and adding to existing images).

The available content packages in japan are better, but the model packs for the west are very limited. Producing models for this software is fairly pointless because if you have the skillset to do that, you wouldn't need this software anyway. Products such as Blender 3D can produce any number of advanced toon shaders, plus you can add real time movie animation if you want to get into Anime as well as Manga production.

So yeah, if you're just a hobbiest looking to throw out some quick stuff in your free time then it's fantastic, if you have any desire to become a professional artist with it, then you will be very limited. Learning proper 3D software would offer far greater flexibility.

Having said that, I obviously own a copy myself! And I'm not sorry I bought it, I often use it for quick storyboarding of projects that are not just manga related. I use it to plan out short films scene by scene, storyline adverts and mores besides. It's fantastic when you just need to get characters on the page quickly.
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Posted 11/10/13
Thanks, lots of very useful information ^^
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Posted 12/15/13
Okay. Comi Po seems awesome for those of us who have stories to tell but not the greatest drawing skills -

BUT, I find the legal mumbo jumbo they include rather disconcerting; apparently NOTHING you make with Comi po is yours. -At least that's what it seems to say. Is there anything out there where you can do something similar and actually own the work? As I don't actually have a particular desire to create manga so much as just a comic strip of any style, I was thinking maybe I could get Comi po just to set up the basic scenes and then trace over with my own style added to the figures, backgrounds, etc. But everytime I read the legal parts I get the shivers thinking that I'm going to put a lot of work into something some faceless company can take away any moment. -A little arrogant, I'm sure, but still I think a valid concern given their language.

What do you guys think?
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Posted 12/15/13
I don't use ComiPo anymore, but it really is a great software. It's very good for those who aren't the best at drawing and also enjoy 3D Animation, or even if you just want to make a simple silly comic. It's good for most people

Although, I think the price is a bit much for a software and extras for those who don't really have much money, which is kind of why I stopped using it (I used the trial version. It was fun while it lasted.) But hey, it could be worse....It could be DRAMAtical Murder (Which is like $100...).

So, yeah. Good program in my book.
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Posted 1/12/14
I was wondering, Can you print what you created with ComiPo? Thanks!
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Posted 1/13/14 , edited 1/13/14
In my opinion, I think this is better option for you. It is very well known and they just released English version.
Clip Studio Paint I have used it before in Japanese version, it works similar to Sai and Manga studio but there are more functions like in Photoshop. You can also use 3D model to create the pose reference as well.
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Posted 1/26/14 , edited 1/26/14
honestly, I know nothing about comiPo, but i love what dcforeman said. great idea!

I have manga studio 5.0. (still learning how to use it)
In some ways feels more basic than gimp, in others ways it seems much more intricate. (I think it's because it's geared at the manga artist.) and it has loads of templates for various things. speech bubbles, basic framing, some sound 'effects'
some basic templates for school room, trees etc. It even has toners.
oh oh oh oh!
two things I've found in it that i absolutely LOVE.
If you have serious trouble with getting your proportions correct (like me). it has 3D moveable characters (basic no faces or anything more like a body shape with lines on it to help with proportions) they come in different poses, that you can then manipulate and change (if you want) and you can position them in any angle. like camera looking up from the ground etc. then you use that as a guideline for your actual work.
the other thing it has that i love (and am still learning to use properly) are prospective rulers. basically you can set up lines to keep your prospective in its proper place. sounds like the basic ruler from gimp or something doesn't it? but this is a little different. the website has loads more info on it, I'm sure.
whatever you decide to use, I suggest using loads of layers.. layers upon layers. I always hate myself afterwards when I go back to fix a piece and have stuck something together on a single layer. >.<

EDIT: I forgot to mention that you can purchase extra stuff like backgrounds etc to use with manga studio's as well. It's all mixed in with stuff for anime studio though, so you have to really look before you purchase at what you're actually getting. It's mostly stuff that other artists are selling to go along with it. but the site you can buy them from is linked to the manga studio webpage. If you want to use pre made stuff (as you said time was an issue) some of it's not that good. and some of it it really well done.
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Posted 1/26/14
I'm not a fan of anything with add-ons that cost more to buy than they did to make
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Posted 1/27/14

Rena-Ryuuguu wrote:

So I was browsing the Manga page and came across the ComiPo! manga and thought it was kinda cool.

I went to check out the website, and it costs $50. I was thinking that it was a pretty good price for what you were getting, but then I saw that there it only includes several eye, hair, mouth, etc. types and only 2 outfits for each gender.

I then saw that there are "Premium Items" you have to buy to get more, like swimsuits and summer items, more uniforms, and stuff like this. And each set costs $15 - $25.

I thought I might try out the program since: 1) my art ability isn't at the level of trying to actually draw it, 2) art supplies are expensive, and 3) I don't have the time to actually try to draw it in the first place, but that is ridiculous.

I'd much rather pay a one time fee, and get all the items, and all future updates than to have to keep paying for each new set to get more to work with. The art supplies would probably be cheaper.

Does anyone have it? Do you think it's worth the price?

Other than that, are there any other programs for manga creation? They don't have to be like comipo where you just insert stuff from the program, it could be a drawing program like photoshop or sai and then also could have backgrounds, toner, bubbles, dividing lines, and stuff that you can add.





I don't know any programs, but what i can suggest is the deleter manga shop site, Tutorial books, Supplies (screen tones, paper, ETC.) are pretty cheap. That is to say, 20 markers in some pretty quality colors for 62 dollars, and 6 dollars for a pack of 40 sheets of comic book paper, prices are okay. All in all, I think that this will serve you better and you learn to draw at the same time.

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Posted 3/7/14 , edited 3/7/14
If you are someone that wants to look like a true experienced manga maker.

Buy Manga studio 5 EX

Everything that costs, is better than anything you can get free.
Everything that costs will look slightly better than anything free.

Personal experience.
that paid stuff wins
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Manga Studio 5 is a formidable piece of software, to be sure, but that's entirely the wrong attitude to take. A bad drawing will always be a bad drawing, no matter what software you draw it in or how many tone sheets you throw at it.

What having something like MS might do is make your working process faster, purely because you have the relevant tools for making each part of a comic page already to hand. Rather than (for sake of example), doing lineart in SAI, laying down tones in GIMP and finalising the page layout in Inkscape, you can go through the entire process without changing programs.

Incidentally, although I've seen people get good results using Krita, I find it lags terribly if you're using a high resolution canvas (and my computer is not slow).
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