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Posted 4/24/14
yea, if its from birth. you can totally manipulate them.

hypnotism truly exist, but you can't manipulate people to the same extent as teaching them to be manipulated easily.
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Posted 4/24/14

Phersu wrote:

Sort of. You can manipulate people to an extent, but it isn't mind control. It's more of an influence.


Yes this is what I was thinking also. What a smart man.
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Sebby_chan wrote:

I've been hypnotized before. It's creepy. You are fully aware of what you are doing yet you have no way to resist, or any thoughts of resisting. At least in my experience...


Not in mine. I didn't feel like resisting, but I was capable of doing so.
Posted 4/25/14
it's easy to do once you peel back the scalp and remove part of the cranium
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Posted 4/25/14
I have intentionally created false memories in a group of people through nothing more than a bit of social engineering and verbal manipulation. These memories are accepted as factual more than a decade later. I have numerous times reversed opinions of others that I was told would not change for anything. Manipulating human minds is very easy as long as you have enough information about the targets. Some simpler manipulations are possible with roughly 70% of the population (according to research that is about a decade old, haven't looked up anything recent) with a startling success rate. There are ways to ask questions, use your body language and physical contact, and even to simply state things that have been shown to successfully precipitate specific outcomes.

If a person is on guard you only need to vary the methods based on that. The determinant for success is based on the target's order of intentionality versus your own. Much like the card game war, the higher number wins. The average human is around fifth order. Chimps are around second or third. Adult humans that do not have a brain defect or genetic abnormality can range from 3rd to 7th from what the research I had read indicates. If the orders are equal, the one with the better techniques and experience/training wins out, though there is a risk the target may realize what happened at some point after the fact if you aren't slick enough.

Ever met someone who had an "experience" with a fortune teller or psychic who swears it's real because of that experience? They got hit with this stuff. Some folks are wired better for it, kinda like having a natural talent. Watch out, people who are like this are either awesome (they help you and thus make your life better) or they are the devil (con-men that can ruin your life if they want).

I actually inadvertently used a few of those methods while exploring human social norms (which I had trouble with for several reasons) and they proved useful for helping me develop my adaptive mechanisms. The dangers inherent in that advice though is that those very things can be used to predict and as a result manipulate your behavior to produce specific results (including shifts in thought or memory). It is a very solid basic primer IMO, but you need to be careful that you don't sink into easily discernible patterns if you want it to remain effective.
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Posted 4/25/14
I am already manipulating Reality with my mind.
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Posted 4/25/14 , edited 4/25/14
I can already do it. But only when no one else is around!!! ;-)

Joking aside, yes I believe it can be done to some extent. For example: Brainwashing, Marketing, Word Association, Neuro-linguistic Programming and Hypnosis.
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Posted 4/26/14

Sebby_chan wrote:

I've been hypnotized before. It's creepy. You are fully aware of what you are doing yet you have no way to resist, or any thoughts of resisting. At least in my experience...


That sounds a little scary.
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Posted 4/26/14
Yea, you somehow manipulated my mind to read this post...
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Posted 4/26/14

meygaera wrote:
Yea, you somehow manipulated my mind to read this post...

So? How did it taste?
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Posted 4/27/14

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So? How did it taste?

Too spicy. I have a cat's tongue you see.

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Posted 4/27/14
Manipulating individual people is becoming more and more simple these days.
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Posted 4/27/14
Everyone, he's manipulated you into thinking about mind manipulation!
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Posted 4/27/14

mizocutie wrote:

Yes, mind manipulation exists. Not in the way media has focused on the idea that you can control somebody with supernatural powers.

However, it is possible to manipulate the person's memories. It has been proven. I'm a psychology major, so we've talked about something like this in a class. A concept that some of you may or may know, false memories. This is the idea that a person's memories can be altered by others. This is why some people are wrongly accused because of eye witness being asked questions that can alter their idea (by giving them suggestions to what may have happened).

Here's a link if any of you are interested:

http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory.html?utm_medium=on.ted.com-static&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=&utm_content=awesm-publisher&awesm=on.ted.com_memory




I work with a bunch of psychologists, and this came up the just other day while talking with one. The way he put it is that we don't remember things absolutely, rather, we reconstruct them, and this allows for suggestion to influence our memories. This and the fact that we don't really perceive things as they are in the first place, e.g. optical illusions, is fuel for some disturbing thoughts regarding our view of reality.
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