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Neon Genesis Evangelion Blu-Ray possibilities?
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I know i'm probably beating around the bush here, but do you guys think we'll ever see a region 1 Blu-ray release of the original Evangelion tv series here ??? Maybe a remaster or a license rescue?...i was probably thinking we COULD (optimist thinking here) get such a release after Rebuild of Evangelion has run it's course, maybe after all of the films have been released in blu-ray/dvd, and to keep the franchise running (as it hasn't already done that already), they could probably announce that. i, for one, would buy that in a heartbeat, but i don't know if and how it would happen, but i would be glad if it wasn't just wishful thinking in my part
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I don't think that's likely. I believe Anno said why he was making Rebuild was because he thought that the Original wasn't relevant to this generation.
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I don't think that's likely. I believe Anno said why he was making Rebuild was because he thought that the Original wasn't relevant to this generation.


I agree. The original Evagelion and movies are fantastic, but they are for the last generation. The Rebuild movies will become the definitive Evangelion experience of today so seeing a Blu-Ray release for the original series definitely seems unlikely.
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I know i'm probably beating around the bush here, but do you guys think we'll ever see a region 1 Blu-ray release of the original Evangelion tv series here ??? Maybe a remaster or a license rescue?...i was probably thinking we COULD (optimist thinking here) get such a release after Rebuild of Evangelion has run it's course, maybe after all of the films have been released in blu-ray/dvd, and to keep the franchise running (as it hasn't already done that already), they could probably announce that. i, for one, would buy that in a heartbeat, but i don't know if and how it would happen, but i would be glad if it wasn't just wishful thinking in my part


I think I've heard that licensing for the series will open up after the movies finish their run. Not sure how that works, since Gainax and Khara aren't really affiliated.
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While i wholeheartedly agree with the rebuild movies being fantastic, as it stands, I don't think that the original series is irrelevant today...I have 2 friends that just got into anime this year, and guess what series they both watched first and loved?? So yeah, while rebuild is awesome, I also think it'd be nice to be able to own the original series in a new, shiny format, if only for a way for fans to rewatch the show and relive that feeling?, I guess? much like how funimation is doing next year with cowboy bebop
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Plus, it would be a golden marketing strategy to re-release the series JUST after Evangelion 4.0 is released, to capitalize on the film's run out inthe wild

Oh, and for the love of God, if you're releasing the series in bluray, please have End of Evangelion included in the box, I found that much more impacting than the original mindtrip ending
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Posted 11/14/13 , edited 11/14/13
a problem may be that it's licensed by Manga and they went under so no one know who owns it right now

btw the 4th and finel film will be out in 2015
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a problem may be that it's licensed by Manga and they went under so no one know who owns it right now

btw the 4th and finel film will be out in 2015


So someone's gonna have to rescue that license, or maybe gainax will work out a deal regarding the franchise somehow
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Posted 11/14/13 , edited 11/14/13

Angerudusto wrote:

I don't think that's likely. I believe Anno said why he was making Rebuild was because he thought that the Original wasn't relevant to this generation.


Which is a load of bull crap! Anno's just lazy and doesn't want to fix up old work, he'd rather redo it.

Consider Tomino's Zeta Gundam series, which got a movie re-release/re-mastering in 2005. While a majority of the film was new animation, the film series was a surprising hit with the current generation, which hadn't seen the original from the 80's.
Good storytelling will last far longer than any animation, regardless of age or quality


Anno's probably thinking "Rei and Asuka are among the best selling characters ever, lets invent a new one with glasses! While we're at it, make four more movies!"


Edit; I forgot to add!

My old Evangelion DVD's have English, Spanish, French, and Japanese voice tracks. IF they give me a Blu-ray, it had better add Chinese and Dutch to that list rather than remove Spanish or French!

More is always better.
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Posted 11/14/13

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Angerudusto wrote:

I don't think that's likely. I believe Anno said why he was making Rebuild was because he thought that the Original wasn't relevant to this generation.


Which is a load of bull crap! Anno's just lazy and doesn't want to fix up old work, he'd rather redo it.

Consider Tomino's Zeta Gundam series, which got a movie re-release/re-mastering in 2005. While a majority of the film was new animation, the film series was a surprising hit with the current generation, which hadn't seen the original from the 80's.
Good storytelling will last far longer than any animation, regardless of age or quality


Anno's probably thinking "Rei and Asuka are among the best selling characters ever, lets invent a new one with glasses! While we're at it, make four more movies!"


Edit; I forgot to add!

My old Evangelion DVD's have English, Spanish, French, and Japanese voice tracks. IF they give me a Blu-ray, it had better add Chinese and Dutch to that list rather than remove Spanish or French!

More is always better.


But wouldn't it be easier for him to just update the animation rather than rewriting the entire thing? Anno's taking a big risk by making these films, which could (and already has) end up alienating a good portion of the fanbase. Also, perhaps (and this is just me speculating) Evangelion wouldn't have taken the direction that it took if it wasn't constrained with budget/timing issues and the director's depression. And another thing: The Rebuilds may be pandering, but that doesn't mean that the Original didn't have a ginormous amount of fanservice either. Both the Rebuild and the Original are aimed at teenagers, which I think a lot of people don't get.
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Posted 11/14/13 , edited 11/14/13
Well Anno doesn't have controling rights to NGE any more he sold them so even if he did want to do a remaster (which he doesn't) he can't he no longer owns it
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But wouldn't it be easier for him to just update the animation rather than rewriting the entire thing? Anno's taking a big risk by making these films, which could (and already has) end up alienating a good portion of the fanbase. Also, perhaps (and this is just me speculating) Evangelion wouldn't have taken the direction that it took if it wasn't constrained with budget/timing issues and the director's depression. And another thing: The Rebuilds may be pandering, but that doesn't mean that the Original didn't have a ginormous amount of fanservice either. Both the Rebuild and the Original are aimed at teenagers, which I think a lot of people don't get.


Beauty and the Beast was aimed at children, doesn't mean it should lower it's standards and quality because of that.

It's true that Evangelion would have been different without a lot of it's problems, and remaking the show differently isn't that bad. But their are plenty of shows like that! Zeta Gundam's original ending was dark enough for the remake to change it, and I hear a lot of people went to the theaters just to see that one, 10 second change.

Going sell out cash-in and providing Fanservice are two different things.

Fanservice is showing Asuka in that Plugsuit. Giving us more Asuka panty shots, and more of those sexual innuendo's aimed at Shinji.

Creating an entirely new character with a personality that panders towards the larger demographic while simultaneously conflicting with the original three's personality? I mean, that can work just fine but that's just not Neon Genesis Evangelion.

I mean, I was super ready to jump in with her, I like that design and character. But, she has less scenes than secondary characters, was poorly integrated, and has a huge swath of merchandise tied into her.

Catholic Schoolgirl! Old-type Plugsuit! Usual Plugsuit! New Plugsuit! Eva Helmet! Beast-version Eva Unit 02!

Why does Asuka have an Eye patch? CUZ YOU'LL BUY ANOTHER KAWAII ASUKA FIGURE SINCE IT HAS AN EYE-PATCH!

The risk involved in these remakes is rather small, and while the movies might alienate older fans, older fans still have the Original. Older fan's will talk about it, Older fans will still watch it.

Gainax as a studio is beast, but they're old hat nowadays.

And Anno is still heavily involved in the new Eva movies, from what I hear.
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soooo sex sells?
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What I was trying to say when I said it was aimed at teenagers, was that Evangelion, first, foremost, always was, and always will be, a harem. Adding another girl to pander to a different demographic is unsurprising. And can you honestly say that Misato, Asuka, Rei, or Kaworu were never, not even once, written to pander to a specific audience? Can you honestly say that Evangelion wasn't kept afloat for all these years because of merchandise and doujinshi (ie: retake, VNs, etc.)? I mean sure, there are people out there who liked it for its dark, psychological, elements, but those were only really explored in the last six or so episodes and EoE. I know Anno is still directing rebuild, but he isn't depressed or working with an under budgeted studio.
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What I was trying to say when I said it was aimed at teenagers, was that Evangelion, first, foremost, always was, and always will be, a harem. Adding another girl to pander to a different demographic is unsurprising. And can you honestly say that Misato, Asuka, Rei, or Kaworu were never, not even once, written to pander to a specific audience? Can you honestly say that Evangelion wasn't kept afloat for all these years because of merchandise and doujinshi (ie: retake, VNs, etc.)? I mean sure, there are people out there who liked it for its dark, psychological, elements, but those were only really explored in the last six or so episodes and EoE. I know Anno is still directing rebuild, but he isn't depressed or working with an under budgeted studio.


I have never held Evangelion as a harem, generic or original. The word people love to use here is "deconstruction" and I find that fitting.

Neon Genesis Evangelion takes the same coming of age story found in Gundam, Gurren Lagann, and all the rest of the Super and Real robot genre anime. But it takes these same elements, and throws in the less nice aspects. Gendo is a hateful parent, Misato is an ineffectual foster parent, the rest of the staff are adult's who don't care, Asuka's the kid with the same problems, Rei's the kid who doesn't think she has a problem, Kaworu is random guy who act's like he cares but just wants to get into your pants.
You have the government control, the enemy prevails, death sucks. All the bad stuff that would happen, is happening here.

Every character in Neon Genesis has some kind of problem, and the fact that these problems arn't properly solved is what brought about the downer ending, or so goes my interpretation of it.

overall, my favorite characters are Shinji's classmates, Toji and Kensuke, who're the better adjusted members of the entire cast of characters. The second episode is all it takes to introduce and bring that psychological depth. It doesn't take a "The Dark Knight Alfred Speech" episode to think about the psychology of the characters. The characters are there, in some way or form. From Kensuke wishing he was in Shinji's shoes, and being a far better candidate. The kid is a military otaku who studies everything Shinji has to know as a hobby, as well as being all gung-ho about the plot itself. He's only interesting because he isn't picked, he's stuck playing Army-Solider and camping by himself on weekends.
And Toji's entire episode and character development was so great, they scrapped Asuka's and gave her his in the second Rebuild movie.


And all of that which I liked, it can change. They can take new avenue's and have new questions to ask or answers to give. As long as it complements the series as a whole.

Glasses-girl could have been a useful character to the series, but she isn't. That wasn't the purpose. Selling the character isn't the issue, it's creating a character with the purpose of selling it. The character should fit in with the show, they should make sense within the rules provided in the world. I'm just fine with her not fitting in with the cast as a character, but Mari Illustrious doesn't fit into the show itself.

She's stabled onto the side like some amazingly sexy fan art. No attempt was made to add her character into the show, she was introduced with an action scene, meets part of our cast with a erotic fan service scene, and shows up at the end to make a big damn heroes moment replacing my absolute favorite moment in all of Neon Genesis Evangelion.

I'm glad they pandered to my glasses fetish, but I'm mad they created her for that sole purpose.

We're SOOOO off thread topic.

No, they're not making Neon Genesis Evangelion on Blu-ray any time soon. The quality isn't up to stuff.
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