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At 3 am window between the spirit world & our world is biggest
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Great thing about life, two people can have polar opinions and neither can truly prove the other wrong.
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I guess my need to pee is just a coincidence.
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sometimes I wake up at that time...but normally because my cat is sitting on my stomach and slapping my face with his tail (-.-')
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I almost never wake up at 3am

maybe 5 or 6 am
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Dironox wrote:




Great thing about life, two people can have polar opinions and neither can truly prove the other wrong.


Yeah but when one opinion has more credibility and evidence behind it, it becomes more probable and inevitably the right one. What happens after? The opinion becomes fact, so sorry man, that's how it is. Unless you want to deny that, then that's your problem, might as well deny evolution as well.
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I think you're confusing fact and theory.
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Lol I wake up and pray at this time sometimes, because at this time god listens to his beliverfs more, so i take advantage sometimes.
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I call BS on all of this -.- It's all make believe and if you believe it, it's probably your house making noise, wind etc.


Dironox wrote:



I think you're confusing fact and theory.


I'm just gonna ask you something simple that will explain this whole thing in one sentence. Why do we have fear? It's an instinct to survive, now what does this have to do with this? You wake up from a nightmare, because your body is not at ease, you think something might be hiding in the shadows, just because you fear it to be there. Fear is the reason people make all this up, they fear something to an extent of saying it is true without facts, or even an logical reasoning behind it. And as he said, if you deny that "theory" which is a much better one than spirits, then you're basically denying instinct.
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UndeadMiltonius wrote:


Dironox wrote:




Great thing about life, two people can have polar opinions and neither can truly prove the other wrong.


Yeah but when one opinion has more credibility and evidence behind it, it becomes more probable and inevitably the right one. What happens after? The opinion becomes fact, so sorry man, that's how it is. Unless you want to deny that, then that's your problem, might as well deny evolution as well.



I totally trust the authority of some random person on an anime forums about the sleeping habits of ancient humans enough to completely disregard any other theory, solely on the basis that they used the word 'behavior' rather than 'spiritual'.

Stating it's a learned behavior is actually less scientific than claiming it is spirits. Stating that they are because of spirits makes far fewer assumptions than claiming it is most certainly because of learned behavior from thousands of years ago in our early evolution.

If you want to make a claim based on it's scientific merits, either post who you are and where you got your PhD, or link us to some legitimized research that studies behavioral patterns.
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What about 2:02 am? I've woken up at that exact time about 3 days straight.


You're fucked, mate.
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metalsmith wrote:


UndeadMiltonius wrote:


Dironox wrote:




Great thing about life, two people can have polar opinions and neither can truly prove the other wrong.


Yeah but when one opinion has more credibility and evidence behind it, it becomes more probable and inevitably the right one. What happens after? The opinion becomes fact, so sorry man, that's how it is. Unless you want to deny that, then that's your problem, might as well deny evolution as well.



I totally trust the authority of some random person on an anime forums about the sleeping habits of ancient humans enough to completely disregard any other theory, solely on the basis that they used the word 'behavior' rather than 'spiritual'.

Stating it's a learned behavior is actually less scientific than claiming it is spirits. Stating that they are because of spirits makes far fewer assumptions than claiming it is most certainly because of learned behavior from thousands of years ago in our early evolution.

If you want to make a claim based on it's scientific merits, either post who you are and where you got your PhD, or link us to some legitimized research that studies behavioral patterns.


Well are you against that something can't be passed through generations, or thousands of years? Are you saying that genes and DNA are falsified? I will post a link to a video explaining how genes that have been with the human since we left Africa, it will explain to you that we do have these things, even though we have long passed the need for these genes, some of them are merely switched off and if you think about that, this surely is an option to this issue, + saying that spiritual explanation to anything is more scientific to anything, well you're basically throwing the definition outta the window are you?

" Scientific - based on or characterized by the methods and principles of science. "
" Science - the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

Note: it says "through practical and observations" when it comes to observing super natural events, there always seems to be a lack of information, or anything to process this through the means of science, that's why it's called spiritual.

Link to video: http://youtu.be/8c-EWSmOgDc?t=2m19s (I skipped the first part to get to the part about genetics, but really you should watch some of his videos, it's interesting. He's a valid source, he's a theoretical physicist, creator of string theory and is very well known.)


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demongurrl13 wrote:

What about 2:02 am? I've woken up at that exact time about 3 days straight.


You're fucked, mate.


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JayVeeDees wrote:

I call BS on all of this -.- It's all make believe and if you believe it, it's probably your house making noise, wind etc.


Dironox wrote:



I think you're confusing fact and theory.


I'm just gonna ask you something simple that will explain this whole thing in one sentence. Why do we have fear? It's an instinct to survive, now what does this have to do with this? You wake up from a nightmare, because your body is not at ease, you think something might be hiding in the shadows, just because you fear it to be there. Fear is the reason people make all this up, they fear something to an extent of saying it is true without facts, or even an logical reasoning behind it. And as he said, if you deny that "theory" which is a much better one than spirits, then you're basically denying instinct.


Never said I that I agree or disagree with anything said in this thread, I simply implied that that you can't prove it right or wrong. a theory is still a theory until it is tested as a hypothesis and proven as fact. the existence of God or the Supernatural is a theory, the existence of Homo sapiens and plantea is a fact.

Reading comprehension appears absent today.
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I had the weirdest dream that I was dying from some disease and that my parents had another child to replace me. We shared consciousness, yet I forgot about her in the dream for a while. The frame of who I was would switch places at some times. Sometimes I was her, and sometimes I was me. Because she was born to replace my body, she had no soul. I was feeling guilty about this, and said I was jealous and would not give my soul up until I was about to die. She aged rapidly, so that she could take my place. At a few weeks old, she was basically like a twelve year old. Also, I am a male, so it was really weird.
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possessed child
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JayVeeDeeswrote:

" Scientific - based on or characterized by the methods and principles of science. "
" Science - the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

Note: it says "through practical and observations" when it comes to observing super natural events, there always seems to be a lack of information, or anything to process this through the means of science, that's why it's called spiritual.


So if there was a way to test a hypothesis that involved the supernatural (making it part of nature), would you accept it?

I've heard that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", I know it's a big IF.

I'm just being curious about a hypothetical situation.
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