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Posted 1/10/14 , edited 1/10/14
Religions are all like cults, some just turn out better than others because of certain people running the show. Christianity killed thousands of people in the beginning during the Crusade's to make other people believe crap that wasn't meant to be taken as seriously as it is. Sounds like a BS religion to me....

I see anything "magical" as unrealistic and thus a myth. There are events written in the bible and other texts that are just misconstrued weird nature events. Sea turning red like blood, big red algae bloom. Nature does some weird stuff and is so weird we can't dream it up. Other texts are not meant as something physically happening it's meant as story for betterment of the person reading.
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So, in short, this is a fedora-fest.

Shit, I don't even believe in a god, but seeing this shit is sort of stupid.

Religions aren't some thing where people constantly scream some shit derogatory terms. It's a way to envision what it's like after death. It's a sort of... security, a guideline for people to follow. It's not a bad thing, because in this shit-fuck world, there's not much to put faith in. And then everyone goes WHAT ABOUT DA CRUUSADES? or LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE BECUZ OF RELIGION. Firstly- the only major known conflicts today between religions are Muslim infighting between the Sunnis and the Shi'ites, and the Hindus and more Muslims. Secondly, all that religious shit in the past- fuck-tons of people died in the past, whether it was because of religion or not. The Black Death took a nice 1/3rd of the population of Europe. There was a friggin' war over salt in which thousands died. Infant mortality rates were HUGE back then. Lastly, the whole "LOL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE IGNANT" is a stupid stereotype. It's like portraying atheists as fedora wearing neckbeards.

Religion is just what it is- something to believe in. Shit, you can believe in anything you want- only social stigma is stopping you. And social stigma's a pretty shitty way to live your life. If you believe Odin buttraped the earth to give birth to us, go ahead. Will you get laughed at for bringing it out in public? Sure. Should you care?
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So, tell me, why is Æsir faith referred to as myth by those of Abrahamic faith? Are they really trying to say that their Abrahamic gods -- and I am implying that it's polytheistic because they can't even decide among themselves which image of their god is the correct one -- are somehow less probable of being myth than ours because they have a lot more people than we do who are twirling their thumbs and making this world a much worse place to live in? And if so, then aren't they the pagans whom we should convert or eradicate for the sake of what's best for humanity? I really do fail to understand why we at this day and age are still referring to those of Nordic faith, Æsir faith as it were, as pagans, and as heathens, when these terms do not only mean that we don't share the Abrahamic faith with them, or that we belong to polytheistic faith, but also that we are uncivilized immoral savages. And it seems sort of upside-down that we are the uncivilized immoral savages when we never tried to spread our faith, or convert others, or say that if you do not believe in our gods then we will cut off your head or hang you or burn you, like they did and still do. Aren't they the heathens, the pagans, the uncivilized, immoral, savages?

But let's go back to the myth- part. How come Æsir faith is based on fairytales while Christianity, Islam and Judaism is not when we have just as much proof of our gods existence?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology

Taking in account how it's defined on wikipeida, I'd say it's okay to have it called mythology. More than religion. Mythology is at least based on something that really happened, and was depicted as such, or has been improved to make the story sound more glorious. I can not see why mythology is considered offensive. I'd rather be part of a mythological faith that has at least some background story to it, than part of some abrahamic religion that has not one ounce of fantasy in it.
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dankuuwut wrote:

So, tell me, why is Æsir faith referred to as myth by those of Abrahamic faith? Are they really trying to say that their Abrahamic gods -- and I am implying that it's polytheistic because they can't even decide among themselves which image of their god is the correct one -- are somehow less probable of being myth than ours because they have a lot more people than we do who are twirling their thumbs and making this world a much worse place to live in? And if so, then aren't they the pagans whom we should convert or eradicate for the sake of what's best for humanity? I really do fail to understand why we at this day and age are still referring to those of Nordic faith, Æsir faith as it were, as pagans, and as heathens, when these terms do not only mean that we don't share the Abrahamic faith with them, or that we belong to polytheistic faith, but also that we are uncivilized immoral savages. And it seems sort of upside-down that we are the uncivilized immoral savages when we never tried to spread our faith, or convert others, or say that if you do not believe in our gods then we will cut off your head or hang you or burn you, like they did and still do. Aren't they the heathens, the pagans, the uncivilized, immoral, savages?

But let's go back to the myth- part. How come Æsir faith is based on fairytales while Christianity, Islam and Judaism is not when we have just as much proof of our gods existence?


1) Judaism is NOT polytheistic. You never hear prayers to anyone other than G-d. So please do not lump all the Abrahamic faiths together

2) Paganism/heathens were given a bad rap by Christianity as it spread throughout Europe as it foricbly converted those of the earth based/Greek/Roman/Norse/Celtic based faiths. As such Christianity bears the responsibility of the Abrahamic faiths of the slander/liable spread and the negative connotations put forth on the religions it murderously conquered throughout Europe.

3) Christianity DID absorb a number of the pagan/heathen/Celtic/Norse/Roman/Greek religous customs in order to assimilate those faiths. As such this should be brought up whenever someone tries to denigrate the peaceful religions of these faiths.

4) Only 1 of the 3 Abrahamic religions STILL does murder people for not converting. 1 USED to (Dark Ages, Spanish Inquistion), and one never did (or very, very early in the well before BC times)
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So long as there is no physical evidence proving the existence of gods, all religions will remain as conjecture.
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I seperate the religion as the actual practice of faith, and the mythology as the the stories and lore.

This may be a bit off topic, but I've heard that very religious people tend to not handle classes that study religion/theology/mythology very well. And, I can believe it because of how I used to be. I actually quit practicing my faith because I realized it was making me a terrible person. It's also why I dislike evangelism and the convert or go to hell mentality I've observed.

My mother is still religious, but even she is hard pressed to find a nice church that fits in with her beliefs. The last church we went to on a regular basis demanded, in private, that we give them more money the next time they collected donations. Pretty scary.
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Posted 1/31/14

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1) Judaism is NOT polytheistic. You never hear prayers to anyone other than G-d. So please do not lump all the Abrahamic faiths together.


In its current state, no. But the ancient jews were polytheist. And the old cult of Yahweh was very much indeed polytheist.



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4) Only 1 of the 3 Abrahamic religions STILL does murder people for not converting. 1 USED to (Dark Ages, Spanish Inquistion), and one never did (or very, very early in the well before BC times)


Well the Torah/Old testament is filled to the brim with teachings of "murder the infidels/blasphemers/apostates/homosexuals/magic-practitians/etc." and genocide.
So if there were suddenly to arise a jewish theocracy somewhere, I'm sure there would be murdering of people based on religion.

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I seperate the religion as the actual practice of faith, and the mythology as the the stories and lore.

This may be a bit off topic, but I've heard that very religious people tend to not handle classes that study religion/theology/mythology very well. And, I can believe it because of how I used to be. I actually quit practicing my faith because I realized it was making me a terrible person. It's also why I dislike evangelism and the convert or go to hell mentality I've observed.

My mother is still religious, but even she is hard pressed to find a nice church that fits in with her beliefs. The last church we went to on a regular basis demanded, in private, that we give them more money the next time they collected donations. Pretty scary.


Why not suggest to your mother that she not go to any church at all?
That way, she is assured to be able to practice her beliefs (or not practice them) in whichever way she pleases.
After all, there are thousands of various denominations and churches. And all of them will just shove their interpretation down her throat anyway.
If God exists, he cannot possibly expect her to somehow find the right one, right?
Better for her to just be on her own and do what she believes is the right thing to do, and (hopefully) be as good a person as she can be.
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Syndicaidramon wrote:


MopZ wrote:

I seperate the religion as the actual practice of faith, and the mythology as the the stories and lore.

This may be a bit off topic, but I've heard that very religious people tend to not handle classes that study religion/theology/mythology very well. And, I can believe it because of how I used to be. I actually quit practicing my faith because I realized it was making me a terrible person. It's also why I dislike evangelism and the convert or go to hell mentality I've observed.

My mother is still religious, but even she is hard pressed to find a nice church that fits in with her beliefs. The last church we went to on a regular basis demanded, in private, that we give them more money the next time they collected donations. Pretty scary.


Why not suggest to your mother that she not go to any church at all?
That way, she is assured to be able to practice her beliefs (or not practice them) in whichever way she pleases.
After all, there are thousands of various denominations and churches. And all of them will just shove their interpretation down her throat anyway.
If God exists, he cannot possibly expect her to somehow find the right one, right?
Better for her to just be on her own and do what she believes is the right thing to do, and (hopefully) be as good a person as she can be.


She already has for the most part. The last church that I know she visited was two years ago, I think.
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i'm a Pastafarian , and this is a big part of our beliefs. what makes the Abrahamic gods any different from the flying spaghetti monster? they take what they believe as fact, and dismiss anything else as preposterous. i believe strongly in the right to practice what you want, but when they have such an ethnocentric view of the world, it's hard to feel sympathy for them in that respect. no offence to anybody, i don't hate you if you believe in god, i just think SOME Christians tend to have a quite hypocritical view of the world when it comes to the beliefs of others.
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I kind of feel for the jews I mean you nail one guy to a two by four and you hear about it for years come on Christianity get over it already
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I kind of feel for the jews I mean you nail one guy to a two by four and you hear about it for years come on Christianity get over it already


Technically it would be the Romans who did that. Jesus himself was a Jew, so think of it more like giving up your friend in wartime. It's considered a betrayal, but really the real dicks are the ones who forced you to do that in the first place.

.... Still didn't stop plenty of rather vicious anti-jewish acts throughout history, well before the Nazi's.
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Well the Torah/Old testament is filled to the brim with teachings of "murder the infidels/blasphemers/apostates/homosexuals/magic-practitians/etc." and genocide.

There may be mentions of said things, but it is nowhere near "filled to the brim". Flick open a random page in the Old Testament and the majority of the time it will be either a Psalm, a genealogy or God instructing Israel to be faithful. The most important commandment is
"And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength."
The majority of the teachings are concerned with this. Please don't over-exaggerate your claims.
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Well the Torah/Old testament is filled to the brim with teachings of "murder the infidels/blasphemers/apostates/homosexuals/magic-practitians/etc." and genocide.

There may be mentions of said things, but it is nowhere near "filled to the brim".
Flick open a random page in the Old Testament and the majority of the time it will be either a Psalm, a genealogy or God instructing Israel to be faithful. The most important commandment is
"And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength."
The majority of the teachings are concerned with this. Please don't over-exaggerate your claims.


As if God never commanded genocide upon the non-believers. Or had bears maul adolescent mockers. Or commanded genocide and rape upon the citizens of foreign cities because they had "tempted" the israelites.

These things may not be the majority of the old testament, but they are easily what stands out the most and what speaks the most of the so-called "omnibenevolent" deity Yahweh. Of the god who is supposed to be of infinite justice and infinite love, yet constantly blames and punishes others for his own incompetence.
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Posted 3/10/14
Pagans got ripped off, plain and simple; the only ones calling Pagans heathens are those that are insecure in their own beliefs and are too scared to admit it. Christmas is the largest most commercialized holiday ripped off from Pagans. In 330 Constantine made Christianity the state religion in Rome, Christians promptly celebrated by murdering non-Christians, and stealing their holidays.
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