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I don't know how good is the internet conection in USA. But here in Brazil I have usually speed problems caused by ISPs and network or backbones and sometimes I have to change te video quality to see the chrunchroll videos.

But lately I have read some news about new codec that replace the currently most used h.264 and vp8. They are the VP9 and HEVC (aka h.265) video codecs.

My sugestion is start to test and use these new codecs in order to offer a better stream for poor connections and to half your and our bandwidth traffic.

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Posted 12/7/13

yuriccp wrote:

I don't know how good is the internet conection in USA. But here in Brazil I have usually speed problems caused by ISPs and network or backbones and sometimes I have to change te video quality to see the chrunchroll videos.

But lately I have read some news about new codec that replace the currently most used h.264 and vp8. They are the VP9 and HEVC (aka h.265) video codecs.

My sugestion is start to test and use these new codecs in order to offer a better stream for poor connections and to half your and our bandwidth traffic.


That's unrealistic for a small company with a niche audience to abandon the standards (Flash, WebM, h.264, VP8, Ogg) and start to use something that may not be fully supported by user's computer/devices while the rest of the industry is still transitioning to HTML5.
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yuriccp wrote:

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I don't know anything about codecs, but I do know about English. Your English was easy to understand, and that is what is most important. I think your English is good, even if it is not perfect.

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Posted 12/7/13

yuriccp wrote:

I don't know how good is the internet conection in USA. But here in Brazil I have usually speed problems caused by ISPs and network or backbones and sometimes I have to change te video quality to see the chrunchroll videos.

But lately I have read some news about new codec that replace the currently most used h.264 and vp8. They are the VP9 and HEVC (aka h.265) video codecs.

My sugestion is start to test and use these new codecs in order to offer a better stream for poor connections and to half your and our bandwidth traffic.

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Sorry for my bad english

The biggest problem at this point is the lack of hardware support. Most portable and settop devices simply can't decode high definition video without hardware support for the codec.

Certainly there would be a big benefit to them in terms of quality vs. bandwidth, but it will take time (probably several years) for the hardware support to be "baked in" to enough devices to make deployment feasible. For example, to the best of my knowledge, even the recently introduced PS4 and XBOX One lack hardware decoding of h.265 (or VP9). Both could probably handle it using the CPU, but the usage would be high.


As for your "bad english", as is usually the case with the majority of people that offer that apology, you have a better command of the language than half the people one sees online that have been speaking the language since their first word.
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Posted 12/7/13 , edited 12/7/13

eyeofpain wrote:
That's unrealistic for a small company with a niche audience to abandon the standards (Flash, WebM, h.264, VP8, Ogg) and start to use something that may not be fully supported by user's computer/devices while the rest of the industry is still transitioning to HTML5.


But I'm not saying to abandon the currently codecs. I'm suggesting to start testing the new ones.

For me the biggest advantage of the crunch against it's main competition, the piracy, is video streaming technology and high library of anime media storage.

We currently have a big well organized library of anime content in different qualities and different languages and formats supported in many devices. This is the main advantage here.

But this advantage will not long. If the crunch not take the iniciative and start to prepare itself to the new technologies it can easily lost their main advantages and will be hard keep once their costs are bigger because it respect the copyrights while others not.

So It will be very interesting if it start to test and prepare itself to use the most new streaming tecs instead of wait the rest of the world use it.

In practical way it can do for example something like crunchyroll.com/html5 (as google done in youtube) to test new tecnologies, to see whats results are better or not and providing new options to us to use and make the service better.

This is my suggestion.


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The biggest problem at this point is the lack of hardware support. Most portable and settop devices simply can't decode high definition video without hardware support for the codec.

Certainly there would be a big benefit to them in terms of quality vs. bandwidth, but it will take time (probably several years) for the hardware support to be "baked in" to enough devices to make deployment feasible. For example, to the best of my knowledge, even the recently introduced PS4 and XBOX One lack hardware decoding of h.265 (or VP9). Both could probably handle it using the CPU, but the usage would be high.


I know that. But for testing purposes we can start with PC streaming first and other devices later after the initial tests and when they begin to support the new codecs.


lorreen wrote:
I don't know anything about codecs, but I do know about English. Your English was easy to understand, and that is what is most important. I think your English is good, even if it is not perfect.


Thank you. But i'm not fluently in english so I will keep asking apologies against any miss understand or any offensive talk that can be caused by it.

So

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Posted 12/3/15
i like the codec h.265
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Posted 12/11/15

julietzhu520 wrote:

if you want to edit/play HEVC (H.265) videos on Windows or Mac, you need to find a professional converter to transcode it first

You don't need to transcode it first to play it, you simply need a media player that can handle HEVC (h.265).

Windows 10 apparently supports it natively, and I suspect the latest version of Mac OS X also does. The latest version of media players such as VLC also support it.

Persons should be aware that if both your player and hardware don't support GPU decoding, your CPU will have to do the work, and HEVC is more hardware intensive than AVC (h.264).

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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 4/28/16
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