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drift or not
Posted 1/29/08

Sippy wrote:


flicker11 wrote:

I think drift and grip applies to different cars.
Drift is for cars with less acceleration after a turn because drift can keep the engine rev up during the turn and fill in its weakness. Grip is for expensive cars with good torque and all around power.


bullshit powerful cars like muscle cars drift too but it takes no skill the nissan skyline r-32 can be fucking tuned to 1000bhp u think thats less acceleration and grip? its AWD


haha muscle cars have amazing acceleration, but the problem is they flip like a bitch. I mean those older cars with the medal bodys and Carburated V8s, I'd never try drifting at high speeds with those.
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Posted 1/29/08

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Drifting sucks i have baught 5 new sets of use tires to try it and 3 suspension kits its kinda fun but i sucked ass at it -_-


3??? 3 suspension kits??? and 5 new sets of tires?? lol damn you must be running lots of power...what kind of car?




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Bysuda wrote:

Drifting sucks i have baught 5 new sets of use tires to try it and 3 suspension kits its kinda fun but i sucked ass at it -_-


get some used tires buddy 20-35 bucks a pop!


that is where your wrong...for drifting economy tires which is 20-35 bucks sucks..you need to get grippy tires, grippy tires = more smoke, more traction (while sliding) and has good threadwear




flicker11 wrote:

I think drift and grip applies to different cars.
Drift is for cars with less acceleration after a turn because drift can keep the engine rev up during the turn and fill in its weakness. Grip is for expensive cars with good torque and all around power.


uhmmm wrong...drifting requires torque, gripping would be hp (those 2 arent necessarily true, but it would require more of it)
on my s13 im probably pushing about 340ish hp 320 lbs torque to the wheels at about 4500 rpm i got the low end super torque hahaa, and on my s14 (which is still a stock ka) is probably at 150ish 120lbs torque at the wheels at about 4500-5000 rpm and i havent dynoed my z yet so idk what that is,

let me try to explain, in drifting its not necessarily goood to stay really high in the rpms (like bouncing on the revs) just cause you lose powerband up that high and not gaining any speeed (depending on turn you can pull off bouncin on the rev limiter) but lets say my s13 revs max at 7300 i would probably try to keep it around 4500-7k while sliding since my max torque hits lower, and for gripping honestly doesnt really require much power if your in it for fun, but once you get cars like the super gt and jgtc thats completely unfair...right?



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yah dont be street racing people!!! or else i will come to haunt you
haha but i dont think he meant street racing, and actually your wrong at that...sometimes there are very sharp turns at track...you would be suprised here in cali (long beach formula d the first initiation point was a almost 90 degree turn) but the insides were smoothed in if you get what im saying..


Naw what I meant was like.. there are no 90 degree turns like the streets where you have a curb to avoid and pedestrians and all that. because on a track you can spin out and you'll be fine as long as you dont flip or lots of other cars aren't right behind you.


yepppp in cali theres a track called willow springs international raceway and they got couple tracks in there, one of them called HORSE THIEFMILE, that is one gangsta track, you can connect long turns (and you can also flip if your coming in tooooo fast)


american cars fail with suspension tuning... ( i mean stock)

Posted 1/29/08

yangss14 wrote:

that is where your wrong...for drifting economy tires which is 20-35 bucks sucks..you need to get grippy tires, grippy tires = more smoke, more traction (while sliding) and has good threadwear

yepppp in cali theres a track called willow springs international raceway and they got couple tracks in there, one of them called HORSE THIEFMILE, that is one gangsta track, you can connect long turns (and you can also flip if your coming in tooooo fast)

american cars fail with suspension tuning... ( i mean stock)


First off.. fuck man, you need to stop quoting so much and making these long ass one post paragraphs! rawr they piss me off lol.

Okay, Its not a bad idea to drift with bald tires or low tread.. unless you are going at higher speeds or they warn enough to pop if you run over something sharp. Anyways, if you are in an area where you won't be bothered and its safe, but wide open space, practice drifting, watch the drift bible and it tells you that its good to start out with bald/used tires as to save money. Don't use bald tires on the tracks.

The old muscle car suspension is different from cars now adays because you can't just bolt on the strut braces like you can on newer cars' suspension because it is covered and I don't want to explain in detail but you'd have to remove the engine.
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Posted 1/29/08

GreekCotan wrote:


yangss14 wrote:

that is where your wrong...for drifting economy tires which is 20-35 bucks sucks..you need to get grippy tires, grippy tires = more smoke, more traction (while sliding) and has good threadwear

yepppp in cali theres a track called willow springs international raceway and they got couple tracks in there, one of them called HORSE THIEFMILE, that is one gangsta track, you can connect long turns (and you can also flip if your coming in tooooo fast)

american cars fail with suspension tuning... ( i mean stock)


First off.. fuck man, you need to stop quoting so much and making these long ass one post paragraphs! rawr they piss me off lol.

Okay, Its not a bad idea to drift with bald tires or low tread.. unless you are going at higher speeds or they warn enough to pop if you run over something sharp. Anyways, if you are in an area where you won't be bothered and its safe, but wide open space, practice drifting, watch the drift bible and it tells you that its good to start out with bald/used tires as to save money. Don't use bald tires on the tracks.

The old muscle car suspension is different from cars now adays because you can't just bolt on the strut braces like you can on newer cars' suspension because it is covered and I don't want to explain in detail but you'd have to remove the engine.


haha my bad but just felt like saying something to a lot of people..hahaha

yah it does say use low economy tires when you start...but mr i got 3 suspension kits and 5 new sets of tires sounded likea pro, so just letting him know whenyou have a higher hp car ( i have both high and low hp cars) you need grip and economy tires dont cut it...
yes dont use bald tires on the track...wow does that baldness throw you off.....
ok me and my friend we tandemed against a profession drifter in formula d (quoc ly) aka the driver for driftspeed and i was out having soo much fun i forgot to change my tires throughout the morning...and i went for a run against quoc and i came in hot (he was coming in super hot *hes got 550 hp s15*) after i transitioned i hit the accelerator..and all i did was keep sliding outwards cause no grip and oh man did ig et close to the haystack...hahaha

Posted 1/29/08

yangss14 wrote:

yah it does say use low economy tires when you start...but mr i got 3 suspension kits and 5 new sets of tires sounded likea pro, so just letting him know whenyou have a higher hp car ( i have both high and low hp cars) you need grip and economy tires dont cut it...
yes dont use bald tires on the track...wow does that baldness throw you off.....
ok me and my friend we tandemed against a profession drifter in formula d (quoc ly) aka the driver for driftspeed and i was out having soo much fun i forgot to change my tires throughout the morning...and i went for a run against quoc and i came in hot (he was coming in super hot *hes got 550 hp s15*) after i transitioned i hit the accelerator..and all i did was keep sliding outwards cause no grip and oh man did ig et close to the haystack...hahaha



yup I had a free supply of tires with alittle thread at work.. if only I was still there I could have used them to practice drifting my new car. x[

aha yes and about the muscle cars, well my dad Has a jeep wrangler YJ Sahara Edition he did an engine swap and put in a Carburated V8 but now he can't get the thing insured. I'm not sure what engine he put in it though because its not listed like the 396 or 454 engines.
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drifting started when a driver drifted every turn in a rally event...he beat every1 with sooo much time in between him and 2nd place...

back then tho id say they didnt have the cars setup the way cars are now for track events...or maybe it was a track where drifting would be faster...

drifting is a faster way of taking some turns, but it really depends on the turn lol
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hmmm sliding or drifting is only fast for rally...

maybe at an extreme hairpin (mostly only in rallys) it maybe be faster to drift cause it'll take more time to turn back the other way quicker than it is to downshift, yank the ebrake and gas it leaving...but still at that you lose tons of speed...

and when you see people do time attacks on tsukuba (japans famous track) they dont drift they grip, i think ive seen it twice where he drifted...but it was keiichi driving...lol and he still got a slower time..
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Posted 1/29/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksl6_RTETEs
watch this, its crazy... O_O''
Posted 1/29/08
lol that was crazy but I dont think it was real.

oh they say how to do it, it was reverse taping. also its part of a TV show =/
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chocuqueen wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksl6_RTETEs
watch this, its crazy... O_O''


that's not drifting, or even actually "real life", it was a segment from Who am I.
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Posted 1/29/08
grip is btr, but drifting is more exciting and challenging and it looks cool! =D
Posted 1/29/08
Semi grip and drifting. in cornering first thing is grip then drift then grip. Grip all long will just kill your tire just like drift.
GRIP = kill front tire
Drift = Kill rear tire

I've drove with my friend, got license. such a pain driving an old 180sx I can tell you one thing. It give a lot of goosebump the first time i drift, with the sound of the tire... and sudden lose control.

Well its useless for me to buy a Sport car since at my place u can only barely go 100km max and Road suck badly with every Stop sign and Red light...
Posted 1/30/08

Lol? Drifting takes no skill?
nonono thats not what i seiad ofcourse it does not in a muscle car tho ause they have like 99999bhp if you watch any of those jap drift competitions againsed americans that what they make fun of americans for cause they say they have no skill
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Posted 1/30/08
it would be lots of fun
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Posted 1/30/08
Drifting is only faster in conditions where traction is low (slick conditions) and/or if the corner is extremely tight.

To even do a REAL drift, you need a RWD or AWD car. A FWD car will not work for REAL drifting. FWDs include Civics, Integras, Neons, and almost every passenger car in existance.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC08yEiCSaE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC08yEiCSaE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5oRAVm_DDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5oRAVm_DDE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmBVN39chQ
I think this one is the same video as the 1st one XD

^Why rally drivers use drifting...
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