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Looking to upgrade my graphics card
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Posted 12/7/13
System specs:

Processor: AMD Phenom II x 6 1045T, ~2.7Ghz

RAM: 8GB

Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 5570

Motherboard: N-Alvorix-RS880-uATX (Alvorix)

Power Supply: 300W

Case: Mid-size ATX

Height: 40 cm (15.75 inches)
Width: 17.78 cm (7 inches)
Length: 43.18 cm (17 inches)

Bay size:
13.33 cm (5.25 inch) x 2
8.89 cm (3.5 inch) x 3

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Like the topic said, I'm looking for a new card. But I don't really know what card I should update to and such. I am looking to preferable run the upcoming game Star Citizen at high-ish settings at 1080p.

As for budget, that is where it gets a bit hairy. The family knows a guy who is apparently really good at finding good deals on computer parts. As a result, I will probably not be getting my card at listed price. So instead of a specific card, I am looking for a "range" of cards to choose from.

Also, how good is crossfire?


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On a side note: on "Can You Run It," the listed minimum requirements for Planetside 2 are "AMD or ATI 4850 series or higher," but my graphics cards is listed as "failing" the requirement. 5k is higher than 4k, so how does that work?
Posted 12/7/13
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Posted 12/8/13 , edited 12/8/13
I'm not sure if it is compatible with your system, but you should check out the Nvidia GeForce GTX Series. That's the series I have my graphics card from and it can do any and all of the things that you said you wanted in one. I am very amazed with it thus far and it is virtually the best on the market.
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Posted 12/9/13
Without a power supply upgrade I'm not sure if I would be comfortable recommending much more than the HD7770 (if you are going with AMD). The price/performance ratio is pretty decent but if you can maybe get a 400w+ power supply I would say R7 260X.
Posted 12/11/13
yeah.... you NEED a new power supply

Bare minimum a 660 ti
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Posted 12/11/13

Homucifer wrote:

yeah.... you NEED a new power supply

Bare minimum a 660 ti


^^^ THIS

Ideally I would choose one that is at least 50% above your needs after factoring in the new card (at least 80+ Bronze) and modular.
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Posted 12/11/13 , edited 12/11/13
Okay first. to answer your why isn't your card good enough.

the first number of a Radeon card is what series they are. so yours is series 5. the 5XXX numbers are the performance class. The higher the number the higher the performance. So you'll note the 4850 is much higher then your 5570. There is not a lot of performance difference between series for the most part. Your 5570 is about the same as a 4670. Which you'll note is not good enough.

Any modern entry level card will work very well for you. With your processor I wouldn't recommend going much higher. So I wouldn't spend more then 150 (presale) on a graphics card. Either the AMD 7750/7770 or nvidia 650 ti would be a solid upgrade for you.

Here is a listing of Graphic cards and approx performance levels. Higher the better.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Finally. You MUST upgrade your power supply. 300w is pretty bare minimum. The 7770 requires an extra power plug not usually available on low end Power supplies. I recommended either Corsair or Seasonic brands. Very solid units and they have many price range options.

The corsair 430CX is a nice budget option for 50 bucks (non sale price). It has one PCI-E cord needed for most modern graphics cards. You can also upgrade to a 500cx for not much more.

Thanks for supplying so much info. Made it very easy to tell you the things you need.

Also a note on crossfire. First your MB does not support crossfire, so without a whole system upgrade your not doing it. Also, SLI from Nvidia is general considered better because of driver support. Crossfire/sli is ]very reliant on drivers. Bad drivers mean the cards don't reach peak performance. AMD does not have a good reputation for drivers support for crossfire. The older the card the better the crossfire support.

Second, 2 cards does not mean twice the performance. The performance increases depends highly on your other system componets and where it's bottlenecks are. A slow processor does not work well with Crossfire. The Faster the cpu the better.

Third, Crossfire is VERY power intensive and requires a large powersupply relative to performance. This also creates alot of heat in you Case. Unless you have a very good case thermals (lots of fans and vents) don't do it.

Finally, Single card solutions are more stable, less thermal and power intensive, and at your hardware level a better overall option.

Crossfire is ment to create 2 markets. Budget upgrade market. This is where you can upgrade your rig by buying a second budget graphics card instead of single powerful card. Second, Enthusiast mega rigs. For people who just cannot get enough performance.

Again, I do not think Crossfire is right solution for you at this time.

Next time though, I recommend posting this at a computer hardware site, such as Tom's Hardware or the Newegg forums. You'll get a lot of help fast from those communities.
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Posted 12/11/13 , edited 12/11/13

GreatLordBalzak wrote:
Ideally I would choose one that is at least 50% above your needs after factoring in the new card (at least 80+ Bronze) and modular.


This is a budget system. 300w would probably do him but it's hard to find a solid unit at that price. Why I recommend the corsair 430cx. Good solid budget PSU that will last.
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Posted 12/11/13 , edited 12/11/13

tirusr wrote:


GreatLordBalzak wrote:
Ideally I would choose one that is at least 50% above your needs after factoring in the new card (at least 80+ Bronze) and modular.


This is a budget system. 300w would probably do him but it's hard to find a solid unit at that price. Why I recommend the corsair 430cx. Good solid budget PSU that will last.


My 2 cousins actually wanted a budget build recently and that is the power supply I chose; It is a great option for the price
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Posted 12/11/13 , edited 12/11/13

GreatLordBalzak wrote:

My 2 cousins actually wanted a budget build recently and that is the power supply I chose; It is a great option for the price



I used the 500cx in my wifes. On sale for the same price and was the modular version. ^^
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Posted 12/16/13
You do realize upgrading your GPU will not improve your entire system that much even if its a really high end card. This is because if your upgrade only the GPU, your motherboard and CPU will bottleneck it so you will not be able to drag out the same performance as it's ment to give.
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Posted 12/28/13
Get a gtx 650 ti boost and a bigger power supply. You would probably come close to maxing anything you would ever want to play for the next 5 years.
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Posted 1/2/14
As stated, you might want to upgrade your PSU (Power Supply) before upgrading. At least upgrade it to 400-500w. Then you can get yourself a new graphics card.
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Posted 1/4/14
There's some good advice already in this thread. In addition, you should post to /buildapc section in reddit to get more opinions. Repost a few times as threads can sometimes get really few answers as there's so many of them.
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Posted 1/5/14
NVIDIA 700 series seems good.
Do that.
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